So we get two themes here. Double boot into macOS, and keep the iPad Pro as a finger driven UI. The two are incomparable, and this is why Apple is having such a hard time of this. I’ve read many posts in other forums about macOS on the iPad and it’s split about 50/50 as to whether people want a more complex iPad or a simple one. Apple is trying to satisfy both crowds. That’s a reason why the File system folder exists, to have an easy way to get to it, while hiding it from those who want nothing to do with it. But it also makes it a lot more difficult to do it in a way that seems easier to use and understand. As it is, it’s more than a bit confusing and overly complicated in how you get from one thing to another.
its also more powerful in some ways that many people don’t realize, but less powerful in way that many people do realize. So it’s an awkward child. It they could smooth out the wrinkles and give a few more thing that would be useful, it would help a lot, without going overboard. But remember that the iPad screen, even the 13” Pro, so that without making major changers in the UI, macOS simp,y isn’t going to be comfortable to use. I’ve had several apps that allow me to control my Mac through my iPad using my Mac Ui as on my 27” 5k screen. It’s not fun folks! In fact, I’ve given up. It’s a terrible experience shoehorning a Mac onto an iPad screen and trying g to use your finger. This is what Microsoft did with the Surface Pro and they had to lower the effective resolution of Windows to do so. So I think it something like 1024 x 768 or maybe now, with the bigger screen, 1280 x 1024. Either way, you lose much of what you had in your screen so that your finger would work. And it’s still awkward. Maybe that’s a reason they only sell a few million a year, instead of tens of millions.
i don’t want that here. And if people who keep demanding macOS on the iPad would actually stop and think for a little while, they would realize that they don’t want it either.
Hope springs eternal for these changes but Apple has long been resistant. There was similar hope for iPad OS 18, especially after the debut of the all-new Pro iPad models, but that hope died at WWDC. We'll see this year. If Apple wanted to give the iPad Pros a real sales boost, make them capable of booting into either iPad OS or Mac OS at the user's discretion, which Apple Silicon can do. In iPad OS, it works as usual. In Mac OS, you lose touchscreen capability and it operates just like a Mac, requiring the use of Magic Keyboard with the built-in trackpad. Apple could do this today. No merging of 2 very different OSes required, no need to figure out how to bring touch to the Mac, no blah, blah, blah whatsoever. Boot into whichever OS makes the most sense for your needs at the moment. Macs have been able to boot into Windows for how long?
Macs could use BootCamp only on the Intel chips, so 2006-2020.
But before that, Apple had sold boards for their Macs with an entire Intel computer onboard for that purpose. Then other companies did. I remember Orange and a few others.
I don't recall that at all. I only recall the emulation option that was really, really slow. Do you have a link that details the setup?
I have a MacBook Pro and and an aging iPad pro. I originally got the iPro to serve as a laptop replacement. I really tried to make it work but after 4-6 weeks I caved and bought another MacBook. Even now I find myself reaching for different machines for different purposes. For light surfing, emailing, watching movies, etc the iPad is awesome but iPadOS hamstrings it for other purposes that are trivially easy with MacOS. File management is the main thing. That’s gotten easier but is often still quite kludgey. Software availability is another.
As far as running iPadOS apps on a mac goes I see no real need for a dual boot system - you can easily use a mouse for taps. Dual finger gestures would need a trackpad but that wouldn’t change no matter how you have it set up.
Cook said a long time ago that’s like comparing a truck to a refrigerator. They serve different purposes.
umm...no. They are both computers. Apple was even pushing the iPad as a laptop replacement a few years ago.
I had another example last night of what's wrong with iPad OS. I was trying to use iAnnotate to edit and mark up some PDFs. They were saved on my iCloud Drive but of course iAnnotate can't access them there; they have to be in a special folder. This is a perfect task to do on an iPad with an Apple Pencil but the limitations of the iPad file system make it unusable.
Cook said a long time ago that’s like comparing a truck to a refrigerator. They serve different purposes.
umm...no. They are both computers. Apple was even pushing the iPad as a laptop replacement a few years ago.
I had another example last night of what's wrong with iPad OS. I was trying to use iAnnotate to edit and mark up some PDFs. They were saved on my iCloud Drive but of course iAnnotate can't access them there; they have to be in a special folder. This is a perfect task to do on an iPad with an Apple Pencil but the limitations of the iPad file system make it unusable.
That sounds like a problem with the app and not iPadOS. The file system on iPad is available and accessible to any app developer that targets it instead of using the old method. It seems iAnnotate is still relying on that ancient iCloud Drive app folder for data. It doesn't need to.
Cook said a long time ago that’s like comparing a truck to a refrigerator. They serve different purposes.
umm...no. They are both computers. Apple was even pushing the iPad as a laptop replacement a few years ago.
I had another example last night of what's wrong with iPad OS. I was trying to use iAnnotate to edit and mark up some PDFs. They were saved on my iCloud Drive but of course iAnnotate can't access them there; they have to be in a special folder. This is a perfect task to do on an iPad with an Apple Pencil but the limitations of the iPad file system make it unusable.
I hadn't heard of that app so I checked it out as much as I could without having to fork over $10 for it. It looks like it also connects with Google Drive, OneDrive, and Dropbox at least as far back as 6 years ago, and it looks like access to the "iOS Files app" was added at least 4 years ago. Could you be missing something?
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its also more powerful in some ways that many people don’t realize, but less powerful in way that many people do realize. So it’s an awkward child. It they could smooth out the wrinkles and give a few more thing that would be useful, it would help a lot, without going overboard. But remember that the iPad screen, even the 13” Pro, so that without making major changers in the UI, macOS simp,y isn’t going to be comfortable to use. I’ve had several apps that allow me to control my Mac through my iPad using my Mac Ui as on my 27” 5k screen. It’s not fun folks! In fact, I’ve given up. It’s a terrible experience shoehorning a Mac onto an iPad screen and trying g to use your finger. This is what Microsoft did with the Surface Pro and they had to lower the effective resolution of Windows to do so. So I think it something like 1024 x 768 or maybe now, with the bigger screen, 1280 x 1024. Either way, you lose much of what you had in your screen so that your finger would work. And it’s still awkward. Maybe that’s a reason they only sell a few million a year, instead of tens of millions.
i don’t want that here. And if people who keep demanding macOS on the iPad would actually stop and think for a little while, they would realize that they don’t want it either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Micro
As far as running iPadOS apps on a mac goes I see no real need for a dual boot system - you can easily use a mouse for taps. Dual finger gestures would need a trackpad but that wouldn’t change no matter how you have it set up.
I had another example last night of what's wrong with iPad OS. I was trying to use iAnnotate to edit and mark up some PDFs. They were saved on my iCloud Drive but of course iAnnotate can't access them there; they have to be in a special folder. This is a perfect task to do on an iPad with an Apple Pencil but the limitations of the iPad file system make it unusable.
https://help.folia.com/knowledge/importing-and-opening-documents-in-iannotate