Prepare for a scam gold rush with the App Store changes

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Firms protesting against Apple's App Store rules keep saying they're looking out for our interests as users, but it's solely about their profits, and to make that money they are fighting to remove what protects us from scams.

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An open App Store comes with risks --- image credit: Apple



Forget that it's Apple who runs the App Store. Certainly, it is important that it's Apple, since that company is surely the most scrutinized in the world, but what's more important is that the App Store is run by one single company.

With one firm, you may agree or disagree with its rules and its prices, but at least it is one single set of terms and conditions for you to ignore. You're not signing up to countless different stores, you're not giving your credit card details to countless different companies.

That is what you will be doing if the App Store is opened up everywhere. And when it happens, any developer who directs you to their site has the opportunity to make much more money out of you.

Who benefits?



Forget the nonsense that firms like Epic Games are only looking out for us. No developer who gets out of Apple's 30% will ever pass on that whole discount, no matter how loudly they say they just want everything to be fair.

Some developers are semantically calling it a discount, and removing what they call fee to offset what Apple charges. But, that's the same as a company jacking up a price in the days before an Amazon sale, then cutting that price, and calling it a deal.

And some like Epic are offering "rewards."

App Store fees might well be lining Apple's pockets, but they're also being spent to run the store. Developers would have to now pay for everything that Apple automatically includes in its fees.

So making users buy directly from them means a developer has to take on credit card processing, for one thing.

The developer also has to suddenly manage all of the different tax laws and requirements in the territories it sells to. It's likely that there are developers who've never sold apps before the App Store and so have had no reason to even realize how complex global tax is.

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Direct links to developer sites removes all but the first of the App Store benefits announced by Steve Jobs in 2008 -- image credit: Apple



So there's a cost in time to learn that and to manage it, as well as having to pay out tax directly. Or issue refunds. Or manage subscriptions, including users cancelling, or switching to different tiers.

Maybe any developer can take this on in theory, but in practice, the only ones who will are going to be the ones that can afford it. Even then, it'll be the ones who can afford it and who already have experience in global sales.

It will be the giant developers, then. It will be the likes of Epic Games.

Follow the money



Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney claims that his firm's legal battle against Apple cost it $100 million in fees, plus an estimated $900 million in lost revenue. But he did not have to spend anything -- literally every single cent was his choice.

Sweeney does try to make it sound like he took on the Man, that he stood up to corporate Apple. But this is not a mom and pop operation winning a moral victory, it is one billion-dollar corporation fighting a trillion-dollar one.

And no corporation spends a billion dollars through righteous indignation. This fight was for profit and who gets it.

So Epic Games doubtlessly believes that it will get this money back, and is unquestionably certain that it will get much, much more.

If it gets that purely through being a popular download, that's fine. That's earned success.

But speaking of the word "fine..." In 2023, Epic Games was fined $245 million by the FTC. It had been exploiting what's called dark patterns.

Buttons in the Fortnite game were ruled to have been deliberately counterintuitive, with the specific result that players would press the wrong one and be directed to in-game currency. It wasn't some unfortunate coding or accidental design, either, as those wrong buttons led to the user being billed for purchases.

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The fight for an open App Store is not about fairness, it's about money



Then at the same time, Epic Games was accused of enabling children to make massive in-app purchases without parental consent.

What may come



Epic Games has proved itself, in law, and in observable practice, to be the kind of problem that we are likely to now see with more open app stores. There is a strong monetary advantage to an open app store that goes far beyond the ability to avoid paying Apple a cut.

And where there is such an advantage, it will be exploited, by every developer with the resources and the mindset to do it.

So there will be more stories of children running up bills. There will be more stories of people inadvertently choosing the wrong purchase for them, and not being able to change it.

The App Store is a powerful digital ecosystem.
We'll all need to think, and do research, before casually buying apps



True, there will also be all of this because some developers will make genuine mistakes as they try to adapt to the new order. There will also be developers who bring their users actual new advantages and benefits to buying this way.

But there will be unscrupulous companies making a lot of money through scams, through dark patterns, through misdirection and heavy selling.

And that's not even considering whether there's a profit in dozens of developers selling on your details to advertisers, which Apple does not do.

Apple can't walk away



None of this is to say that Apple has godlike morality, because none of it needs Apple to have. All Apple needs to have to be better than a wide-open app store, is for it to be a single company, coming under scrutiny.

When little Tommy spends his family's life savings on skins and battle passes, the parents will sue. Even if they realize how the App Store has changed, though, and even if they correctly sue the right developer, there is more.

They will definitely sue Apple.

Apple has a lot of money, so it will be sued. Users will not conclude that this or that developer is bad and the cause of the problem. They, or their children, made the purchase on the iPhone, with an app downloaded from the App Store, and will assume that the App Store is to blame.

And there are at least two giant law firms that we can think of that won't discriminate and go after the deepest pockets that they can when little Timmy racks up $10,000 in Fortnite bucks purchases. After all, they get a hefty percentage of the settlements.

All of this will make iOS the same as Android, at least in the minds of Ma and Pa America app buyers. That's not good for buyers, for Apple, or for developers.

This is not AppleInsider trying to make a case for keeping things as they are. This change is coming, and the large developers pressing for it will declare a victory for the little user.

But they will be at best, bending the truth, but more realistically just lying about it. And instead of just downloading an app when we need it, we will have to vigilant -- and finally read those terms and conditions.



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  • Reply 1 of 15
    neoncatneoncat Posts: 190member
    Good read, but this line stands out as the real takeaway:

    And instead of just downloading an app when we need it, we will have to vigilant — and finally read those terms and conditions.


    Anything that teaches, by hook or by crook, by reward or by cudgel, the "general populace" (waving hands around) to take their security into their own hands and balance petty wants against risk will only benefit them in the long term. Because guess what? Apple itself is only motivated by its desire to make money, as much of it as possible. 

    Given how the App Store is packed full of scam apps, gatcha games, quickly-approved apps that are little more than rip offs of existing IP, and apps with privacy reports cards that don't actually match the data that the apps collect (not to mention Apple's strong-arming developers into adopting subscriptions again in order to feed its rapacious desire for recurring revenue), the blind trust placed in Apple to assume guardianship of our security, privacy, and the overall experience of acquiring applications is misplaced, as it is always misplaced when we abdicate our personal responsibility. 

    Whether one central app store or dozens, assume none of them are looking out for your best interest. Because they're not.
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  • Reply 2 of 15
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,105administrator
    neoncat said:
    Good read, but this line stands out as the real takeaway:

    And instead of just downloading an app when we need it, we will have to vigilant — and finally read those terms and conditions.


    Anything that teaches, by hook or by crook, by reward or by cudgel, the "general populace" (waving hands around) to take their security into their own hands and balance petty wants against risk will only benefit them in the long term. Because guess what? Apple itself is only motivated by its desire to make money, as much of it as possible. 

    Given how the App Store is packed full of scam apps, gatcha games, quickly-approved apps that are little more than rip offs of existing IP, and apps with privacy reports cards that don't actually match the data that the apps collect (not to mention Apple's strong-arming developers into adopting subscriptions again in order to feed its rapacious desire for recurring revenue), the blind trust placed in Apple to assume guardianship of our security, privacy, and the overall experience of acquiring applications is misplaced, as it is always misplaced when we abdicate our personal responsibility. 

    Whether one central app store or dozens, assume none of them are looking out for your best interest. Because they're not.
    I have long said that if there was giant mind and marketshare to be had by Apple becoming the kicking puppies company, they'd be onboard. There isn't, so they won't.

    That said, a lot of this is who and what you trust. With any company, there's a trade-off between what you pay for, what you give up non-monetarily, and what you get in return.

    Apple is the best fit for all that in my view. Obviously, opinions vary.
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  • Reply 3 of 15
    lam92103lam92103 Posts: 155member
    My only problem with the 30% is that it is not fair. Apps like FB, WhatsApp and all the chart toppers probably contribute most to bandwidth costs, yet aren't billed for it. They are also Free & have no in-app purchases so not like Apple is making a lot of money off them. 

    Instead other apps with in-app purchases, must pay a cut. Paid apps which are generally by smaller devs must also pay a cut. 

    All the spam apps also end up paying barely anything, as there is no fee to have your spyware filled clones of popular apps on the store. 

    The blanket 30% worked when the store launched, and most apps were small dev made, paid apps. 

    But that is no longer the case, and now it is small apps that are subsidizing costs for larger more popular FREE apps that monetize user data to profit. 
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  • Reply 4 of 15
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,496member
    I said this in an earlier post, but I hope there will be an option in settings to choose the app store as the only place from which to download.
    docbburkDBSynchaluksJanNLwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 5 of 15
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,167member
    I still remember the countless news stories about some rogue malicious malware spreading in iPhones.  It was all over the news.  “Apple iPhone” hacked.  

    Turns out all those intrusions were on jailbroken phones from apps outside the App Store.

    its about to get worse.
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  • Reply 6 of 15
    docbburkdocbburk Posts: 113member
    I'm old enough to remember Windows Mobile and Windows CE. It sucked having to search all over the internet to find apps and then trust you got the correct site, hoping it wasn't a cloned site and having to trust them with your credit card. Now with more ability to spy on users I will not buy or download an app outside the App Store. It's funny how a judge thinks their decision is actually benefiting consumers. It will not, it only benefits a few large companies like Epic games. Co
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  • Reply 7 of 15
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,656member
    neoncat said:
    Good read, but this line stands out as the real takeaway:

    And instead of just downloading an app when we need it, we will have to vigilant — and finally read those terms and conditions.


    Anything that teaches, by hook or by crook, by reward or by cudgel, the "general populace" (waving hands around) to take their security into their own hands and balance petty wants against risk will only benefit them in the long term. Because guess what? Apple itself is only motivated by its desire to make money, as much of it as possible. 

    Given how the App Store is packed full of scam apps, gatcha games, quickly-approved apps that are little more than rip offs of existing IP, and apps with privacy reports cards that don't actually match the data that the apps collect (not to mention Apple's strong-arming developers into adopting subscriptions again in order to feed its rapacious desire for recurring revenue), the blind trust placed in Apple to assume guardianship of our security, privacy, and the overall experience of acquiring applications is misplaced, as it is always misplaced when we abdicate our personal responsibility. 

    Whether one central app store or dozens, assume none of them are looking out for your best interest. Because they're not.
    Without the worry of being called a monopoly Apple would benefit from leaning in to the trusted brand marketing and have an aggressive cull of apps in the store.

    make review process harder. Have a curated web app directory all in the name of emphasising Quality over native so lots of free apps could . Make the Apple AppStore a badge of quality. 

    They don’t need to keep questionable app around once there are options and they can’t be accused of bias. 


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  • Reply 8 of 15
    Completely agree. This is all about nothing. PLUS is the X-Box store and the Playstation store and any number of other stores now illegal too? How can Apple have a monopoly on Apple products? The reasoning to get here is tortured and stands a decent chance to be overturned. 
    williamlondonhaluksJanNLwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 9 of 15
    lowededwookielowededwookie Posts: 1,200member
    neoncat said:
    Good read, but this line stands out as the real takeaway:

    And instead of just downloading an app when we need it, we will have to vigilant — and finally read those terms and conditions.


    Anything that teaches, by hook or by crook, by reward or by cudgel, the "general populace" (waving hands around) to take their security into their own hands and balance petty wants against risk will only benefit them in the long term. Because guess what? Apple itself is only motivated by its desire to make money, as much of it as possible. 

    Given how the App Store is packed full of scam apps, gatcha games, quickly-approved apps that are little more than rip offs of existing IP, and apps with privacy reports cards that don't actually match the data that the apps collect (not to mention Apple's strong-arming developers into adopting subscriptions again in order to feed its rapacious desire for recurring revenue), the blind trust placed in Apple to assume guardianship of our security, privacy, and the overall experience of acquiring applications is misplaced, as it is always misplaced when we abdicate our personal responsibility. 

    Whether one central app store or dozens, assume none of them are looking out for your best interest. Because they're not.
    None of this will happen. No one is going to read the terms and conditions because no one reads terms and conditions.  There’s no evidence people read terms and conditions on Android.

    However, for Apple they can simply state that it wasn’t their AppStore and get out of a court case as a result. Apple can prove 100% they had nothing to do with the sale and so walk away.

    Apple can then simply state that it was the courts that forced this hell hole and so it’s up to the courts to deal with the ramifications, leave Apple out of it.
    DBSyncwilliamlondonhaluksJanNLwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 10 of 15
    nubusnubus Posts: 863member
    mike1 said:
    I said this in an earlier post, but I hope there will be an option in settings to choose the app store as the only place from which to download.
    Alternative app stores will only be available through App Store. You need to find the alternative store app, approve installation, add credit card details, and buy the apps. And those apps are still checked by Apple. You want some extra safety mechanism on top of those 4-5 steps?

    To me that is enough protection. And as we have seen after 13 months in the EU - it really works.
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  • Reply 11 of 15
    jfreedle2jfreedle2 Posts: 31member
    nubus said:
    mike1 said:
    I said this in an earlier post, but I hope there will be an option in settings to choose the app store as the only place from which to download.
    Alternative app stores will only be available through App Store. You need to find the alternative store app, approve installation, add credit card details, and buy the apps. And those apps are still checked by Apple. You want some extra safety mechanism on top of those 4-5 steps?

    To me that is enough protection. And as we have seen after 13 months in the EU - it really works.
    The third party application stores will not verify the security of anything that they would host, and neither will Apple. Apple only verifies the applications distributed via the original App Store. That is part of the 15%/30% that application developers pay to ensure trust by the users. Third party application stores have been and always will result in failure due to the lack of checking the applications that are submitted.
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  • Reply 12 of 15
    jfreedle2jfreedle2 Posts: 31member

    Completely agree. This is all about nothing. PLUS is the X-Box store and the Playstation store and any number of other stores now illegal too? How can Apple have a monopoly on Apple products? The reasoning to get here is tortured and stands a decent chance to be overturned. 
    This is the Pandora's box that has been opened. Most of the malware found on iOS|iPadOS is on the devices that people stupidly "jailbroken", which is why every Cybersecurity Engineer has both jailbroken and rooted devices disallowed and blocking third party application stores from their organizations.
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  • Reply 13 of 15
    davidwdavidw Posts: 2,167member
    mike1 said:
    I said this in an earlier post, but I hope there will be an option in settings to choose the app store as the only place from which to download.

    Better yet, let Apple device users have a choice to install a version of their OS that do not allow for any installation of third party app stores. This way, there's no way they can be  "phished" into installing a third party app store or have malware installed by way of security bugs in the coding added to the OS, that allows for third party app stores and the installation of apps from them.  Apple can call this safer and more secure version  ......... iOS "Classic". And one can change their choice at any time in the software update settings.

    Apple can publish how many of their users are on the new version of the OS that allows for third party app stores and how many are choosing to use the "Classic" version. This way developers can get an idea of how many potential customers there are, when they put their apps in a third party app store. Plus any malware taking advantage of the OS coding needed to install third party app stores and the installation of apps from them, will only affect users of the new version of the OS. Users that chooses to install the "Classic" version will still be more safe and secure.

    If Apple device users are given a choice, my bet is that the percentage of users that chooses to install the version of the OS that allows for third party app stores, will about mirror the percentage of users that jail breaks their Apple devices. Probably less than 10% now of days. And is why it's no coincidence that the Google Play Store market share is in the 90% range. Only about 10% of users (on both platforms) cares to or have a need to, install their apps from third party app stores (or by side loading).  
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  • Reply 14 of 15
    Great, now my grandma will need to avoid being scammed on another way.

    Thank you EU for destroying another thing. We all love a nanny state.

    If we want a more "control" we had Android, yet we CHOSE Apple.
    For a good damn reason, living in a beautiful aluminium walled garden.
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  • Reply 15 of 15
    davidw said:
    mike1 said:
    I said this in an earlier post, but I hope there will be an option in settings to choose the app store as the only place from which to download.
    If Apple device users are given a choice, my bet is that the percentage of users that chooses to install the version of the OS that allows for third party app stores, will about mirror the percentage of users that jail breaks their Apple devices. Probably less than 10% now of days. And is why it's no coincidence that the Google Play Store market share is in the 90% range. Only about 10% of users (on both platforms) cares to or have a need to, install their apps from third party app stores (or by side loading).  
    10% of users that jail break their Apple devices? - I think you are being too generous here. It is probably less than 0.1% of the user base for iOS. Android - it is significantly higher ONLY because google is not allowed in China. And USA government blocking Huawei from getting access to google services even for devices sold outside of China. Otherwise, even Android would have a situation (less than 0.1% of users sideloading apps) similar to Apple.
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