New Vietnam trade deal means Apple will pay at least five times more in tariffs

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  • Reply 81 of 87
    Wesley_Hilliardwesley_hilliard Posts: 634member, administrator, moderator, editor
    so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect. 

    The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates. 

    The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped. 

    Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets. 

    Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa. 

    Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate. 

    So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win. 


    From cnn of all places:

    Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”

    The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.

    “In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trump

    I don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column. 

    "lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.
    I guess when confronted with the facts, just dismiss, eh? LOL
    Think about it however you like. No point in discussing it with a wall. Our article and the miles of forum posts contradict everything you've shard. No need to repeat it again. Believe what you like, it's inconsequential.
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  • Reply 82 of 87
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,225administrator
    so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect. 

    The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates. 

    The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped. 

    Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets. 

    Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa. 

    Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate. 

    So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win. 


    From cnn of all places:

    Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”

    The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.

    “In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trump

    I don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column. 

    "lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.
    I guess when confronted with the facts, just dismiss, eh? LOL
    I covered your "facts" just fine. Wes didn't even need to.
    spheric9secondkox2Wesley_Hilliard
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  • Reply 83 of 87
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,682member
    so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect. 

    The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates. 

    The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped. 

    Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets. 

    Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa. 

    Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate. 

    So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win. 


    From cnn of all places:

    Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”

    The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.

    “In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trump

    I don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column. 

    "lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.
    I guess when confronted with the facts, just dismiss, eh? LOL
    Think about it however you like. No point in discussing it with a wall. Our article and the miles of forum posts contradict everything you've shard. No need to repeat it again. Believe what you like, it's inconsequential.
    I simply quoted multiple news sources. Not even favorable to The current administration. 

    But ok… 
    Wesley_Hilliard
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  • Reply 84 of 87
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,682member

    so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect. 

    The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates. 

    The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped. 

    Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets. 

    Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa. 

    Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate. 

    So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win. 


    From cnn of all places:

    Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”

    The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.

    “In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trump

    I don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column. 

    "lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.
    I guess when confronted with the facts, just dismiss, eh? LOL
    I covered your "facts" just fine. Wes didn't even need to.
    Honestly it seemed more like opinion and conjecture. 
    And nobody needed to “cover” my post. It was simply stating facts from multiple news sources. That’s literally the crime here? Dang. 
    Wesley_Hilliard
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  • Reply 85 of 87
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,803member

    so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect. 

    The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates. 

    The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped. 

    Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets. 

    Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa. 

    Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate. 

    So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win. 


    From cnn of all places:

    Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”

    The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.

    “In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trump

    I don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column. 

    "lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.
    I guess when confronted with the facts, just dismiss, eh? LOL
    I covered your "facts" just fine. Wes didn't even need to.
    Honestly it seemed more like opinion and conjecture. 
    And nobody needed to “cover” my post. It was simply stating facts from multiple news sources. That’s literally the crime here? Dang. 

    You literally wrote "The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates" which is just so bonkers meaningless that it can't even aspire to be wrong. It's just — no. 
    (I particularly enjoy that you insist on misspelling "tariffs", but that's beside the point.)

    That was the opening premise of your post.

    The rest is just news links rehashing the exact same numbers posted in the article, though it's utterly unclear whether you're posting them to support whatever you think that opening statement meant, and if so, how.  
    edited July 3
    9secondkox2Wesley_Hilliardmuthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 86 of 87
    so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect. 

    The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates. 

    The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped. 

    Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets. 

    Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa. 

    Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate. 

    So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win. 


    From cnn of all places:

    Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”

    The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.

    “In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trump

    I don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column. 

    "lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.
    I guess when confronted with the facts, just dismiss, eh? LOL
    The irony of you saying that is rich. I have lost track of how many times I have provided data with citations that you have ignored in favor of just repeating incorrect information. That and outright lying are seem to be your two favorite pastimes. 


    spheric9secondkox2Wesley_Hilliardmuthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 87 of 87
    ForumPostforumpost Posts: 119member
    capnbob said:
    I assume this only applies to those devices in the list sold in the US not those bought in the rest of the world. Given that the US is about 40% of Apple revenue (mostly iPhones and Mac’s), the impact of this on Apple will be meaningful but surely not very significant?
    The impact on US consumers will be precisely what they voted for?
    There has been discussion that Apple will dilute the impact to the US consumer by raising prices worldwide. So, I guess the answer to your question is "it remains to be seen."
    This is what’s happen usually. For example, foreign university students fees are significantly higher to subsidise lower local student fees, other expenses  etc
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