What Apple products will get hit the hardest by Trump's new tariff orders

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President Donald Trump has started to dictate new tariff rates for countries without a U.S. trade deal, with the Apple Watch, Mac Pro, and Mac Studio all poised to get hit by extra import charges on August 1.

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Tim Cook [left], President Donald Trump [right]



In April, President Donald Trump introduced a 90-day pause on tariffs, so that his administration could work out new trade deals with countries around the world. While that original pause was originally due to end on July 8, Trump is preparing to instigate new tariff rates for countries that failed to make a deal.

Letters published to social mediaon Monday by the President now outline new tariffs that will be applied to select countries, with each sent to their respective leaders. The letters follow the same format, explaining that there will be new tariffs applied to each country from August 1.

The initial list of countries with tariffs includes 25% applied against Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, and Kazakhstan. Reuters reports a 30% tariff was issued on South Africa, and 40% on Laos and Myanmar.

Fearful of a similar situation to the tit-for-tat tariff rises with China, the letters also include language to try and prevent that from happening.

"If for any reason you decide to raise your Tariffs, then, whatever the number you choose to raise them by, will be added onto the 25% that we charge," Trump writes in the Japan and South Korea letters.

A total of 30 letters were expected. Twelve known countries that got the letters as of July 8 is:

  • Japan

  • South Korea

  • Malaysia

  • Kazakhstan

  • South Africa

  • Laos

  • Myanmar

  • Bosnia and Herzegovina

  • Tunisia

  • Indonesia

  • Bangladesh

  • Serbia

  • Cambodia



Outside of its production in China and Vietnam, Apple has production or sourcing from suppliers based in Japan, South Korea, Kazakhstan, Thailand, Malaysia, and South Africa, among the already-announced tariff changes.

Japan is the production base for finished goods, such as Apple Watch straps. Thailand is where the Mac Pro and Apple Watch are produced.

Malaysia produces nearly all of the world's Mac Studio supply.

Reciprocal tariffs to cost Apple dearly



It is, so far, unclear what will happen to other countries that do not have trade deals. At a minimum, the 10% "pause" rate will be applied, but it is entirely possible for a return to pre-pause tariff rates.

So far, Trump has signed trade deals with China and Vietnam, though both are not exactly great for consumers. For China, Trump said in June that the deal would see the U.S. "getting a total of 55% tariffs," which is better than the triple-digit rate before, but still hefty.

Meanwhile for Vietnam, the trade deal will see Apple paying at least five times more in tariffs than before the tariff battle began.

Other countries are still trying to make their own deals with the U.S., with mixed results. For example, the U.K. managed to secure parts of a trade deal to reduce tariffs on cars being shipped to the U.S. in June, but a 10% levy on most goods was not addressed, nor an expected removal of charges on steel imports.

For Apple, Monday's list of tariff letters means it faces even more costs than it did before April's omnibus announcement for importing goods in the future.

Apple is already expecting to feel the pinch from tariffs in the current financial quarter. The company has warned that the tariffs will cost approximately $900 million in the period.

That's beside its high-cost adjustments to its global distribution and production system to minimize the impact of tariffs.

While Apple won't truly know how much the tariffs will cost its balance sheet for the September quarter just yet, it's likely to be yet another expensive exercise at the hands of Trump.

Updated on July 8, 2025 at 8am Eastern: Full list of countries, and more detail on what each country assembles for Apple added.



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  • Reply 1 of 30
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,358member
    and the tariffs on Russia are?

    if the American economy survives another 3 and a half years years with this leadership it will be a miracle.
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  • Reply 2 of 30
    nubusnubus Posts: 914member
    No more drama. Set those tariffs for the next 3 years and let business do business.
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  • Reply 3 of 30
    twolf2919twolf2919 Posts: 184member
    "For Apple, Monday's list of tariff letters means it faces even more costs than it did before April's omnibus announcement for importing goods in the future." - why is that?  The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea,  Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries.  As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries.  It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and  India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no?  Far more important is what  China, Taiwan, and India tariff goods from those countries at.
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  • Reply 4 of 30
    Wesley_Hilliardwesley_hilliard Posts: 620member, administrator, moderator, editor
    twolf2919 said:
    "For Apple, Monday's list of tariff letters means it faces even more costs than it did before April's omnibus announcement for importing goods in the future." - why is that?  The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea,  Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries.  As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries.  It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and  India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no?  Far more important is what  China, Taiwan, and India tariff goods from those countries at.
    Right, but if Apple were to build products here, these tariffs would increase the cost of imports. It directly contradicts the supposed purpose of the tariffs.

    Also, the Trump administration is writing more rules around tariffs to penalize companies that try to get around tariffs by moving products between countries before importing them to the US, like Apple did with India.

    It's complicated, but this isn't going to be zero effect on Apple for sure. It just adds to the overall costs of tariffs, which are already astronomical.

    TLDR: None of this is working how it should or how it was promised.
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  • Reply 5 of 30
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,186administrator
    twolf2919 said:
    "For Apple, Monday's list of tariff letters means it faces even more costs than it did before April's omnibus announcement for importing goods in the future." - why is that?  The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea,  Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries.  As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries.  It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and  India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no?  Far more important is what  China, Taiwan, and India tariff goods from those countries at.
    Apple imports some finished goods into the US from Japan, Korea, Malaysia, and Khazakstan. I agree that China and India are far more, of course, given iPhone production, but this is not irrelevant to Apple.
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  • Reply 6 of 30
    twolf2919twolf2919 Posts: 184member
    twolf2919 said:
    "For Apple, Monday's list of tariff letters means it faces even more costs than it did before April's omnibus announcement for importing goods in the future." - why is that?  The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea,  Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries.  As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries.  It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and  India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no?  Far more important is what  China, Taiwan, and India tariff goods from those countries at.
    Right, but if Apple were to build products here, these tariffs would increase the cost of imports. It directly contradicts the supposed purpose of the tariffs.

    Also, the Trump administration is writing more rules around tariffs to penalize companies that try to get around tariffs by moving products between countries before importing them to the US, like Apple did with India.

    It's complicated, but this isn't going to be zero effect on Apple for sure. It just adds to the overall costs of tariffs, which are already astronomical.

    TLDR: None of this is working how it should or how it was promised.
    The rules  they're writing is to prevent the games various countries are playing to avoid tariffs by routing their goods through third-party countries.  E.g. the Chinese routing their goods through Vietnam because it has a lower tariff rate.  BTW, Apple did *not* do that to any extent, as far as I know.  If you do, please provide a references.  What Apple did is to actually begin to increase its production capacity in India - for the same reasons (keeping tariffs low), but not by routing its Chinese-made iPhones through India.

    You seem to think that I'm pro-tariff .  Absolutely not - they're a tool employed by a guy int he White House who doesn't even seem to know how they work.  My comment was solely the observation that what the article claims doesn't seem to be true, as of now at least.  Your comment about it affecting Apple in some hypothetical future isn't really relevant as Apple is nowhere near producing anything in the US.  In my opinion, Apple is far too smart to go down the US manufacturing road - they're just telling Trump what he wants to hear.  They'll slow-walk that $500b investment they promised to stroke his ego.....then slow-walk it until the next President comes to power.
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  • Reply 7 of 30
    nubusnubus Posts: 914member
    twolf2919 said:
    The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea,  Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries.  As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries.  It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and  India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no?
    Mac Studio and more are assembled in Malaysia. Transshipped parts are hit by 40% to block China from shipping through other countries. But mostly tariffs are "Country of Origin" which translates into "where was it assembled". Even if the actual assembly is like 2% of the total cost.

    It does block Apple from moving production to the US. If Apple produced chips in the US, exported for assembly, and imported... the entire phone would be hit. The only way to avoid it would be to let all components and assembly happen in the US. Much easier to keep parts manufacturing in place but shuffle assembly to a low-tariff, semi-low-wage country. Cost of repairs is likely to increase as batteries, displays,... are delivered directly and take the full hit from tariffs. The list of suppliers show the countries used to sources parts from: https://www.supplychainreports.apple/Apple-Supplier-List
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  • Reply 8 of 30
    twolf2919twolf2919 Posts: 184member
    nubus said:
    twolf2919 said:
    The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea,  Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries.  As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries.  It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and  India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no?
    Mac Studio and more are assembled in Malaysia. Transshipped parts are hit by 40% to block China from shipping through other countries. But mostly tariffs are "Country of Origin" which translates into "where was it assembled". Even if the actual assembly is like 2% of the total cost.

    It does block Apple from moving production to the US. If Apple produced chips in the US, exported for assembly, and imported... the entire phone would be hit. The only way to avoid it would be to let all components and assembly happen in the US. Much easier to keep parts manufacturing in place but shuffle assembly to a low-tariff, semi-low-wage country. Cost of repairs is likely to increase as batteries, displays,... are delivered directly and take the full hit from tariffs. The list of suppliers show the countries used to sources parts from: https://www.supplychainreports.apple/Apple-Supplier-List
    I agree with everything you said - but it doesn't really negate my point that Apple is not really affected further by the initial list of countries announced on Monday.  Even if Apple is assembling Mac Studio in Malaysia - that country's tariff went from 24% tariffs before today to a whopping....25%.  And Mac Studio isn't one of Apple's big sellers, so an additional percentage point in tariffs on them won't even be  a rounding error on their quarterly statement - or disappear entirely if it simply raises the Studio's price.  Initially, many companies, including Apple, have tried to keep prices low because the tariff landscape was still in flux, but as soon as it becomes clear what the permanent tariffs will be, I think those companies will forward those costs onto the American consumer.
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  • Reply 9 of 30
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,186administrator
    twolf2919 said:
    nubus said:
    twolf2919 said:
    The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea,  Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries.  As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries.  It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and  India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no?
    Mac Studio and more are assembled in Malaysia. Transshipped parts are hit by 40% to block China from shipping through other countries. But mostly tariffs are "Country of Origin" which translates into "where was it assembled". Even if the actual assembly is like 2% of the total cost.

    It does block Apple from moving production to the US. If Apple produced chips in the US, exported for assembly, and imported... the entire phone would be hit. The only way to avoid it would be to let all components and assembly happen in the US. Much easier to keep parts manufacturing in place but shuffle assembly to a low-tariff, semi-low-wage country. Cost of repairs is likely to increase as batteries, displays,... are delivered directly and take the full hit from tariffs. The list of suppliers show the countries used to sources parts from: https://www.supplychainreports.apple/Apple-Supplier-List
    I agree with everything you said - but it doesn't really negate my point that Apple is not really affected further by the initial list of countries announced on Monday.  Even if Apple is assembling Mac Studio in Malaysia - that country's tariff went from 24% tariffs before today to a whopping....25%.  And Mac Studio isn't one of Apple's big sellers, so an additional percentage point in tariffs on them won't even be  a rounding error on their quarterly statement - or disappear entirely if it simply raises the Studio's price.  Initially, many companies, including Apple, have tried to keep prices low because the tariff landscape was still in flux, but as soon as it becomes clear what the permanent tariffs will be, I think those companies will forward those costs onto the American consumer.
    Apple was paying 4% to Malaysia in March 2025, and about 3% from Japan at the same time period.
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  • Reply 10 of 30
    ssfe11ssfe11 Posts: 193member
    Agreed. Ultimately all of Trumps tariffs will fall onto the consumer. This is just another tax for Americans and a significantly chance of causing a recession as folks will balk at paying such high prices. It’s a lose lose all around. 
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  • Reply 11 of 30
    anthogaganthogag Posts: 132member
    The Dictator sends tax letters to the world. Such a lame and dishonest way to do business. I can imagine the tax rates he applied to different countries is just a gut feeling, made-up. Trump is thinking 'I don't like Laos, it's hard to pronounce with dentures, I'll give them a 40% tariff'.  
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  • Reply 12 of 30
    So, the tariffs were announced in April and then delayed for 90 days. At the point where the tariff were delayed we were promised "90 deals in 90 days"  In that time Trump claimed he had made deals with 200 countries despite there not being 200 countries to actually make deals with. This week we will hit the 90 days with exactly two deals made. That is a well short of the 90 promised and well below the 200 that Trump claimed he had done. So, what does the Trump and is band of clowns do? Announce even more tariffs and immediately delay them for almost 30 days. 

    Any country watching this clown show has learned two things. 
    1. Trump and team have no actual plan are just making this up as they go along.
    2. They can safely ignore his bluster, he will always chicken out and kick the traiff can down the road. This dog has no bite. 

    This cult will make excuses for this and repeat whatever inane talking points Dear Leader gives this and the rest of the country will just be embarrassed on their behalf. 
    edited July 7
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  • Reply 13 of 30
    anthogaganthogag Posts: 132member
    So, the tariffs were announced in April and then delayed for 90 days. At the point where the tariff were delayed we were promised "90 deals in 90 days"  In that time Trump claimed he had made deals with 200 countries despite there not being 200 countries to actually make deals with. This week we will hit the 90 days with exactly two deals made. That is a well short of the 90 promised and well below the 200 that Trump claimed he had done. So, what does the Trump and is band of clowns do? Announce even more tariffs and immediately delay them for almost 30 days. 

    Any country watching this clown show has learned two things. 
    1. Trump and team have no actual plan are just making this up as they go along.
    2. They can safely ignore is bluster, he will always chicken out and kick the traiff can down the road. This dog has no bite. 

    This cult will make excuses for this and repeat whatever inane talking points Dear Leader gives this and the rest of the country will just be embarrassed on their behalf. 
    Countries dealing with Trump and his inner circle likely believe they are dealing with extremely untrustworthy clowns. Conversing with Trump probably resembles dealing with a psycopath. 
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  • Reply 14 of 30
    Such a pathetic way to run - anything, much less a country. Imagine the import and export people trying to figure out what the orange make-up wearing old man decides each week. And of course, we all love rising prices. I'm sure this is a great economic move because he's shown how well he runs companies....Sad place to be.
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  • Reply 15 of 30
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,680member
    anthogag said:
    So, the tariffs were announced in April and then delayed for 90 days. At the point where the tariff were delayed we were promised "90 deals in 90 days"  In that time Trump claimed he had made deals with 200 countries despite there not being 200 countries to actually make deals with. This week we will hit the 90 days with exactly two deals made. That is a well short of the 90 promised and well below the 200 that Trump claimed he had done. So, what does the Trump and is band of clowns do? Announce even more tariffs and immediately delay them for almost 30 days. 

    Any country watching this clown show has learned two things. 
    1. Trump and team have no actual plan are just making this up as they go along.
    2. They can safely ignore is bluster, he will always chicken out and kick the traiff can down the road. This dog has no bite. 

    This cult will make excuses for this and repeat whatever inane talking points Dear Leader gives this and the rest of the country will just be embarrassed on their behalf. 
    Countries dealing with Trump and his inner circle likely believe they are dealing with extremely untrustworthy clowns. Conversing with Trump probably resembles dealing with a psycopath. 
    He has proven over the years to never contract in good faith. No contract can legally exist without that. 
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  • Reply 16 of 30
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    So, the tariffs were announced in April and then delayed for 90 days. At the point where the tariff were delayed we were promised "90 deals in 90 days"  In that time Trump claimed he had made deals with 200 countries despite there not being 200 countries to actually make deals with. This week we will hit the 90 days with exactly two deals made. 
    Not even two finalized deals AFAICT. What we have at the moment is the framework for two potential deals rather than signed trade agreements. Quite the dealmaker....
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  • Reply 17 of 30
    davgregdavgreg Posts: 1,078member
    badmonk said:
    and the tariffs on Russia are?

    if the American economy survives another 3 and a half years years with this leadership it will be a miracle.
    The goal is reciprocal tariffs and a reduction in trade barriers. It will take time as the rest of the world is used to taking advantage of the US in trade by the use of VAT taxes with rebates, tariffs and other trade barriers.  That is hardly something to fuss about.

     


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  • Reply 18 of 30
    teejay2012teejay2012 Posts: 434member
    davgreg said:
    "...It will take time as the rest of the world is used to taking advantage of the US in trade by the use of VAT taxes with rebates, tariffs and other trade barriers..."

    Not sure how a VAT takes advantage of the US, as these sorts of consumer taxes are applied to ALL goods and services, regardless of origin. Even domestic goods and services. Trump knows this of course but he keeps referring to VATs as some sort of barrier to US companies. No.  Actually with its economy being 70% consumer based, the US could probably cover its deficit with some sort of VAT in a decade or two, but then every American would see the tax on their bill, and that would be political poison. Rather,  Trump has applied tariffs as as a regressive tax that applies to all consumers buying imported goods, but affects those with less money more than those with more money, and never appears on a bill. And Republicans fall for this slight of hand LOL?
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  • Reply 19 of 30
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,327member
    davgreg said:
    badmonk said:
    and the tariffs on Russia are?

    if the American economy survives another 3 and a half years years with this leadership it will be a miracle.
    The goal is reciprocal tariffs and a reduction in trade barriers. It will take time as the rest of the world is used to taking advantage of the US in trade by the use of VAT taxes with rebates, tariffs and other trade barriers.  That is hardly something to fuss about.

     


    What does VAT have to do with international trade?

    It is applied to products at the fiscal point of sale and throughout the supply chain. It does not change because a product was manufactured in or by an external country.

    We all know Trump sees VAT as some kind of lever against external trade but that is a very weird way to see things. 

    Basically nonsense and the US is in the extreme minority of nations (20?) that don't really use it, whereas some 170 do. 

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  • Reply 20 of 30
    jem101jem101 Posts: 3member
    Yes indeed, VAT (or value added tax), is simply a sales tax, now I’m in the UK so probably don’t know all the details of how this works in the US, but i believe that individual States (maybe even counties) can set their own rates of sales tax, or even not have any if they so choose.

    Now here VAT is applied at a national level, currently 20% but some products are zero rated, most foodstuff, children's clothing, for example. So if a product is sold for, say £100 then the retailer is required to send £20 to the government as a sales tax. And this applies to everything, there is no exemption for ‘home made’ stuff, so yes, I’m struggling to see what issue the current US administration has about this!

    Of course it is temping to simply say that your current inhabitant of 1600 simply doesn’t understand how this all works and is simply ‘shooting off their mouth’? Please tell me that it isn’t that bad!


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