Hey Jony, here’s a dopey idea - make someone outside of Apple the CEO. Someone who can act as a massive talent magnet in AI. Someone with incredible vision.
i sense that Apple would benefit from a 1997 Steve Jobs like entrance and transformation.
Apple has had decades of incredible profits and share price growth, only to stagnate and likely suffer from common corporate malaise. It would not be hard to imagine most staffers cruise their stock options rather than want to change the world.
Unpopular opinion - poach someone very senior from Tesla. implement Elons work ethic and relentless innovation ethos. i doubt you can get Elon but you can potentially get one of his protégées.
So you want to replace the CEO of one of the most profitable and globally popular companies on Earth that continually pumps out astronomically successful products with someone from one of the worst run companies in the history of silicon valley with one of the worst reputations on Earth?
Solid plan.
Thank you, it is definitely an option. I suggest parking your likely personal views on Elon’s politics as it does not help your line of argument.
Perhaps a brief moment reviewing his track record of innovation and building world class engineering teams can help. It is unparalleled and don’t take my word for it, listen to luminaries in the business. Most people would be exceptional running just one of the portfolio of companies. Tesla is an exceptional company (or collection of companies rather) taking huge risks shaping and building markets.
Hence any protégée of Elon will have much of his innovation DNA which is what Apple needs to make a meaningful difference in the next couple of decades. This is the most evident on the software side where evolution speed has been a large meh for quite some time. Look at xAi moving from standstill to parity or leadership in model quality in about 2 years. Apple is slow coach evident of a stagnant company.
Tim Cook says that Apple will be best known for its Health work in the future (paraphrased). Well ok, Apple Watch is nice and all but sorry it pales with the real hard problems that Neuralink is tackling which has a reasonably good chance at game changing improvements in the quality of life for many people. Yep, its an Elon company
Hey Jony, here’s a dopey idea - make someone outside of Apple the CEO. Someone who can act as a massive talent magnet in AI. Someone with incredible vision.
i sense that Apple would benefit from a 1997 Steve Jobs like entrance and transformation.
Apple has had decades of incredible profits and share price growth, only to stagnate and likely suffer from common corporate malaise. It would not be hard to imagine most staffers cruise their stock options rather than want to change the world.
Unpopular opinion - poach someone very senior from Tesla. implement Elons work ethic and relentless innovation ethos. i doubt you can get Elon but you can potentially get one of his protégées.
So you want to replace the CEO of one of the most profitable and globally popular companies on Earth that continually pumps out astronomically successful products with someone from one of the worst run companies in the history of silicon valley with one of the worst reputations on Earth?
Solid plan.
Thank you, it is definitely an option. I suggest parking your likely personal views on Elon’s politics as it does not help your line of argument.
Perhaps a brief moment reviewing his track record of innovation and building world class engineering teams can help. It is unparalleled and don’t take my word for it, listen to luminaries in the business. Most people would be exceptional running just one of the portfolio of companies. Tesla is an exceptional company (or collection of companies rather) taking huge risks shaping and building markets.
Hence any protégée of Elon will have much of his innovation DNA which is what Apple needs to make a meaningful difference in the next couple of decades. This is the most evident on the software side where evolution speed has been a large meh for quite some time. Look at xAi moving from standstill to parity or leadership in model quality in about 2 years. Apple is slow coach evident of a stagnant company.
Tim Cook says that Apple will be best known for its Health work in the future (paraphrased). Well ok, Apple Watch is nice and all but sorry it pales with the real hard problems that Neuralink is tackling which has a reasonably good chance at game changing improvements in the quality of life for many people. Yep, its an Elon company
Ah yeah, takes a lot of talent to take your daddy's diamond money and throw it at tech startups until they are successful. Elon doesn't understand anything and isn't an inventor, but he did get lucky picking businesses to invest in when they were clearly onto a good path for future use. An internet payment platform that got bought out gave him the ability to fail upwards, get Tesla moving at just the right time when EVs were taking off as a concept. Then everything went downhill from there. Musk worked best as an investor that let quality product tell the story, then he got had implants and thought he was hot shit.
Now we have a car company that is tanking in the market and the first vehicle actually pushed by Musk's vision is a rusty bucket held together with glue that they can't sell in any number. He's heralding a space program full of exploding rockets and every missed deadline imaginable. Weren't closer to mars today than we were a decade ago.
xAi almost broke the curse, then Musk got involved and turned an innovative team of ChatGPT competitors into a Nazi guild promoting genocide.
Yeah, excellent track record. No, it isn't bias against Musk or some kind of political ideal, it's just reality. The numbers are there. And I even used to think Musk was smart, until I heard him talk about things I was familiar with, and now I know he's a moron with money.
Not hard to strike gold when daddy paved the way to a gold filled chamber. Musk does have one thing though, he has a strong sense of what businesses can print money with the right push. If he had stuck to that and shut his mouth, he might have even been in the books as an incredible businessman. But now, after X, Tesla, and likely soon, SpaceX and xAi, he's become the richest embarrassment baby man the world has ever seen.
But if facts don't matter and you like him in spite of being directly responsible for the death of millions around the world via DOGE, cool. Cheer for your weird baby man and his pile of degenerate associates. I'm sure he and Big Balls would be the destruction of Apple.
Hey Jony, here’s a dopey idea - make someone outside of Apple the CEO. Someone who can act as a massive talent magnet in AI. Someone with incredible vision.
i sense that Apple would benefit from a 1997 Steve Jobs like entrance and transformation.
Apple has had decades of incredible profits and share price growth, only to stagnate and likely suffer from common corporate malaise. It would not be hard to imagine most staffers cruise their stock options rather than want to change the world.
Unpopular opinion - poach someone very senior from Tesla. implement Elons work ethic and relentless innovation ethos. i doubt you can get Elon but you can potentially get one of his protégées.
So you want to replace the CEO of one of the most profitable and globally popular companies on Earth that continually pumps out astronomically successful products with someone from one of the worst run companies in the history of silicon valley with one of the worst reputations on Earth?
Solid plan.
Thank you, it is definitely an option. I suggest parking your likely personal views on Elon’s politics as it does not help your line of argument.
Perhaps a brief moment reviewing his track record of innovation and building world class engineering teams can help. It is unparalleled and don’t take my word for it, listen to luminaries in the business. Most people would be exceptional running just one of the portfolio of companies. Tesla is an exceptional company (or collection of companies rather) taking huge risks shaping and building markets.
Hence any protégée of Elon will have much of his innovation DNA which is what Apple needs to make a meaningful difference in the next couple of decades. This is the most evident on the software side where evolution speed has been a large meh for quite some time. Look at xAi moving from standstill to parity or leadership in model quality in about 2 years. Apple is slow coach evident of a stagnant company.
Tim Cook says that Apple will be best known for its Health work in the future (paraphrased). Well ok, Apple Watch is nice and all but sorry it pales with the real hard problems that Neuralink is tackling which has a reasonably good chance at game changing improvements in the quality of life for many people. Yep, its an Elon company
While I agree with many of your points on a musk and how successful he has been - the guy is an absolute genius. I see a lot of similarities between him and Jobs.
But also some glaring differences.
Musk’s connections, visionary mentality, focus on innovation and success, along with ether efficiency in getting to market make him seem like a good fit in many ways.
But there are some other aspects of his persona that could be a liability.
A. He very publicly grts into political dogfights. Jobs was extremely careful to not do that. Though Steve had his bias behind the scenes, you never see him polarizing people where it was not necessary, no matter how strongly he may have felt personally. He knew Apple has a responsibility of being the best products for everyone. Not some favored group.
It works with musk’s companies, but will not fly at Apple.
B. Musk gets into personal spats in public. While we see countless politicians doing this nowadays, it’s no less petty than it ever was and belittles the image of companies represented by said leader. Neither Jobs nor z cook have done this. And Apple has been kept out of the mud as a result.
C. Musk is known to kill things if they seem to struggle whereas Apple stands by its products rven if they aren’t blockbusters (AVP, various Mac models, services, Apple TV, etc) for a very long time. If a customer buys an Apple product thst doesn’t fare too well, they aren’t simply abandoned.
D. Musk will take time from his CEO role to pursue political interests. No matter which side of the coin you’re on, he may have helped uncover waste and fraud, but his companies suffered in his absence. Neither Jobs nor Cook would ever do that. Apple is the ultimate priority. Musk would likely not see it that way.
Ultimately, while Musk may have the genius and leadership chops to lead Apple, he seems to lack the moral character, discipline, and fortitude necessary to prioritize Apple above all other ambitions and see difficulties through for the sake of customers.
Ultimately, it would be great to have a visionary CEO, but the reality is that tech has matured. This isn’t the dark ages of computing where literally every product to come out was an “innovation” because nothing really existed before. Now, we have exceeded science fiction in many ways. There’s not much left to do. AI isn’t even new tech. It’s scripts and algorithms (and piracy/plagiarism in many cases).
If we could have a Tim Cook for another 15 years, it would be great. But the guy has earned the opportunity to enjoy the fruit of his labors. Whoever the next CEO is, it almost certainly will be someone within, someone who already has authority, the respect of his colleagues, and who will be recommended by Tim Cook personally. We may see this person at the next iPhone launch and begin to be “featured” publicly often from here on. I don’t see that being Federighi, Khan, or Ternus. But it’s someone in that general circle. Whether they lead the company for a decade plus is another matter. But it’s definitely not Elon Musk. Nor should it be.
602warren said: Remember the iPhone was an $800 unsubsidized phone with little capability when it first launched.
No it wasn't.
Sorry. $600 for the 8GB model originally. I mis-remembered the original price because they dropped it by $200 shortly after, making them what I thought was $600 after the price drop. Either way, it was a F*CK ton of money for a phone when you could get devices like the RAZR or LG Chocolate for $30-$50 or a Palm Treo for $150 after carrier subsidies on a 2 year contract.
When Tim Cook steps down as Apple’s CEO, there will be several obvious candidates for the role. However, I think much will depend on exactly when he retires — the timing could greatly influence the choice of his successor.
Tough crowd. A new poster here, with 2 comments to their name, says something objectively true and relevant, and someone here clicks "Dislike"? Come on people.
602warren said: Remember the iPhone was an $800 unsubsidized phone with little capability when it first launched.
No it wasn't.
That is the subsidized price.
Nah, a few months later they dropped it by $200. That was the subsidised price. The original was just the profit maximising, early-adopter gouging price.
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Perhaps a brief moment reviewing his track record of innovation and building world class engineering teams can help. It is unparalleled and don’t take my word for it, listen to luminaries in the business. Most people would be exceptional running just one of the portfolio of companies. Tesla is an exceptional company (or collection of companies rather) taking huge risks shaping and building markets.
Hence any protégée of Elon will have much of his innovation DNA which is what Apple needs to make a meaningful difference in the next couple of decades. This is the most evident on the software side where evolution speed has been a large meh for quite some time. Look at xAi moving from standstill to parity or leadership in model quality in about 2 years. Apple is slow coach evident of a stagnant company.
Tim Cook says that Apple will be best known for its Health work in the future (paraphrased). Well ok, Apple Watch is nice and all but sorry it pales with the real hard problems that Neuralink is tackling which has a reasonably good chance at game changing improvements in the quality of life for many people. Yep, its an Elon company
Now we have a car company that is tanking in the market and the first vehicle actually pushed by Musk's vision is a rusty bucket held together with glue that they can't sell in any number. He's heralding a space program full of exploding rockets and every missed deadline imaginable. Weren't closer to mars today than we were a decade ago.
xAi almost broke the curse, then Musk got involved and turned an innovative team of ChatGPT competitors into a Nazi guild promoting genocide.
Yeah, excellent track record. No, it isn't bias against Musk or some kind of political ideal, it's just reality. The numbers are there. And I even used to think Musk was smart, until I heard him talk about things I was familiar with, and now I know he's a moron with money.
Not hard to strike gold when daddy paved the way to a gold filled chamber. Musk does have one thing though, he has a strong sense of what businesses can print money with the right push. If he had stuck to that and shut his mouth, he might have even been in the books as an incredible businessman. But now, after X, Tesla, and likely soon, SpaceX and xAi, he's become the richest embarrassment baby man the world has ever seen.
But if facts don't matter and you like him in spite of being directly responsible for the death of millions around the world via DOGE, cool. Cheer for your weird baby man and his pile of degenerate associates. I'm sure he and Big Balls would be the destruction of Apple.