Should we rethink the Death Penalty?
A story like this is a good example of why the government shouldn't be trusted with the death penalty. After an mistake like this is allowed to happen how can the system be trusted?
It's not just Illinois that has a terrible record of injustice. The system is corrupt, and not necessarily intentionally.
It's not just Illinois that has a terrible record of injustice. The system is corrupt, and not necessarily intentionally.
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It would be a dreamless sleep from which Executed coma prisoners could be retrieved, if it turned out they were innocent..
Maybe this is too Frankensteinian in its implications.....but it would surely beat actually killing someone & then finding they were truly innocent..think of the legal compensation that would follow for wrongful death..deprivation of life..family, trauma, income etc etc....Death-Coma would cost less even if it has untested legal ramifications..... I am open to pursuasion.
The death penalty, whenever analysed in rigorous academic ways, is shown not to work. There is in fact fairly good reason to believe that it is counterproductive.
We also know for a fact that it is discriminatory against the poor and that innocents get killed.
Not to mention that it is a bad precedent for The State to kill its own citizens.
It should be stopped.
To quote Dennis Miller:
"They call it 'capital punishment' is that it's a capital idea."
Originally posted by groverat
What alcimedes said; except I'd spell "incarceration" correctly and capitalize the first letter of the first word of every sentence.
To quote Dennis Miller:
"They call it 'capital punishment' is that it's a capital idea."
So the fact that it doesn't work doesn't phase you?
As an old chinese saying goes: Kill one, warn a hundred.
Originally posted by bunge
A story like this is a good example of why the government shouldn't be trusted with the death penalty. After an mistake like this is allowed to happen how can the system be trusted?
It's not just Illinois that has a terrible record of injustice. The system is corrupt, and not necessarily intentionally.
No, thinking is unpatriotic.
Originally posted by stunned
I am supportive of the death penalty.
As an old chinese saying goes: Kill one, warn a hundred.
i dont think its necessarily true. i haven't really investigated it too much, but i wouldn't be surprised if most people were not dissuaded as much by the totality of the punishment, but by the horridness of the crime. the reason i don't murder or rape (or commit other dp-crimes) is because those crimes are very wrong, and I can't live with those on my conscience. If all we have to keep people in line is fear, then we are in a sad state of society; and while i think society is in a sad state, i dont think most people avoid crimes because of the penalty. I wouldn't be surprised if capital crime rates have been shown to be unaffected by states' legalizing or illegalizing the death penalty.
but even if people are living in fear of the death penalty, and not committing crimes because of it, the government should not have this power over its citizens. as has already been shown, the government can't handle this power (they execute innocent people). i dont like the fact that any, any innocent people can die for someone else's crime. i really don't want to be that innocent person, and i dont want the government to have the power to put me in that position. it leaves them the possibility of later becoming fascist or oppressive and then taking down political prisoners. i'd rather a government that feared the people (ie, liberty), than people that feared the government (ie, tyrrany) (borrowed and deformed t. jefferson quote).
Let everyone out of jail.... run free my brothers and compatriots!
Or it could be that someone with a grudge is trying to blow up some technicality that has already been reviewed and found irrelevent, stayed the execution a month to insure everything was okay, and then killed the bastard.
Sorry for offending all the fatherless children like myself.
Nick
If the former, does that mean conservative ideology isn't about small government?
Originally posted by trumptman
Let everyone out of jail.... run free my brothers and compatriots!
Nick
Not everyone. Just half. You know which half I'm talking about.
Originally posted by THT
Question to ponder: is the death penalty big government or small government?
If the former, does that mean conservative ideology isn't about small government?
Both Liberal and Conservative ideologies are self-contradictory. Let's not start up this pointless debate.
Originally posted by BR
Not everyone. Just half. You know which half I'm talking about.
Leave my family out of this
Geesh you can take the trash out of the trailer...but....
Nick
Fellowship
Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook
I am against the death penalty.
Fellowship
BAD REPUBLICAN!
Originally posted by BR
Both Liberal and Conservative ideologies are self-contradictory. Let's not start up this pointless debate.
Perhaps they are self-contradictory, but I think the main thing is that they are not honest with themselves. In other words, they pretend to be something they are not, and can't admit it.
Originally posted by THT
Perhaps they are self-contradictory, but I think the main thing is that they are not honest with themselves. In other words, they pretend to be something they are not, and can't admit it.
It has nothing to do with not being able to admit it. It's done on purpose. Both parties are trying to appeal to too many people with too many conflicting ideas at the same time. Self-contradiction is the end (and intended) result.
Originally posted by BR
It has nothing to do with not being able to admit it. It's done on purpose. Both parties are trying to appeal to too many people with too many conflicting ideas at the same time. Self-contradiction is the end (and intended) result.
While I disagree with BR that the parties are the same what is said above is correct.
Fellowship