MacBidouille posts PPC 970 benchmarks

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  • Reply 261 of 665
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by keyboardf12

    Those of you that order the Dual 2ghz model on June 23rd will not get your machine till Sept.



    I think I can wait a couple 'o months for a dual 2ghz PM
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  • Reply 262 of 665
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    So what will it be:



    When introduced at the WWDC:



    a) PM single 1.4

    b) PM dual 1.6

    c) PM dual 1.8



    or



    A) PowerBooks 1.4 (15" and 17") with 1ghz 12"

    B) PM single 1.6

    C) PM dual 1.8

    D) PM dual 2.0



    And after MWSF



    0) eMac 1.2 and 1.4 G4

    1) iMac 1.4 and 1.6

    2) PowerBook 1.4 (12") 1.6 (15" and 17")

    3) PM single 1.8

    4) PM dual 2.0

    5) PM dual 2.3 or 2.5

    ( 6) PM ultra dual 2.5)



    Realistic, maybe not, but it would be an d@mned impressive linup
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  • Reply 263 of 665
    robsterrobster Posts: 256member
    go have a look at: LoopRumors
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  • Reply 264 of 665
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by robster

    go have a look at: LoopRumors



    Or just look here
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  • Reply 265 of 665
    ompusompus Posts: 163member
    I find it interesting that Apple has allegedly received 20,000 1.4 GHZ chips but 40,000 1.6 GHZ and 40,000 1.8 GHZ chips.



    Maybe the 970 is fabbing so well their aren't alot of slow chips.



    Maybe Apple doesn't need so many because they're putting single 1.4 GHZ chips into their entry level tower
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  • Reply 266 of 665
    keyboardf12keyboardf12 Posts: 1,379member
    Quote:

    Maybe Apple doesn't need so many because they're putting single 1.4 GHZ chips into their entry level tower



    that seems most likely.
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  • Reply 267 of 665
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Ompus

    Maybe the 970 is fabbing so well their aren't alot of slow chips.



    So the PB will get a 1.4 then (that is when it enters the PowerBook lineup) ???
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  • Reply 268 of 665
    3.14163.1416 Posts: 120member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Ompus

    Maybe Apple doesn't need so many because they're putting single 1.4 GHZ chips into their entry level tower



    That would be my guess. Or for an unreasonably optimistic speculation, the PMac lineup will be all duals at 1.6, 1.8, and 2.0, and the 1.4s are for Powerbooks.
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  • Reply 269 of 665
    jaredjared Posts: 639member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by 3.1416

    That would be my guess. Or for an unreasonably optimistic speculation, the PMac lineup will be all duals at 1.6, 1.8, and 2.0, and the 1.4s are for Powerbooks.



    Nah because then you need a chip for the other two PowerBooks.
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  • Reply 270 of 665
    vinney57vinney57 Posts: 1,162member
    I don't think we will see powerbooks until the 980 part comes along in January. However it does look possible that 2.3 and 2.5 970's may be available before then, so how about:



    1.4 SP

    1.6 DP

    1.8 DP



    Available within a couple of weeks, and one more thing..



    Rack mount XStations DP 2.3 and DP 2.5 available in September.



    (I would love to say Quads but I dont think so)
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  • Reply 271 of 665
    keyboardf12keyboardf12 Posts: 1,379member
    macboudille has a little more info.





    http://www.macrumors.com
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  • Reply 272 of 665
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by vinney57

    ...the 980 part comes along in January.



    A bit early for the 980 in January, don't you think. In the first half 2003 we will see the 970+. We will see the 980 at the earliest in the second half of 2004. They will probably give the 970 at least a year as the "top dog". netro
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  • Reply 273 of 665
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    From Macbidoobie:

    Quote:

    [ Rumour ] Still of the infos of the PPC 970 - Lionel - 17:41:39

    Here of other exclusive rumours on the mother chart of the PPC 970. The source can be described as extremely reliable. But for lack of evidence they remain rumours. This information relates to a mother boars of the PPC 970 preproduction units sent to "very" selected APPLE partners.
    • The mother boards has a form more rectangular than square (we had already had one moment ago of information on a "very long" board ).

    • The processor is welded on top (traditional for a preproduction board). Mounted on it is a traditional heat sink.

    • But, more important, there are 8 connectors of RAM on the board (probably PC3200) with which 4 are covered with enormous a "do not use" sticker on top. These 4 are cabled differently than the 4 others (no more info).

    One can imagine several explanations to the presence from these 4 nonfunctional slots. Here by order of ascending probability.[list=1][*](not very likely) They were abandoned in the final version [*](possible) on the dual mother board, each processor will have its own RAM for more band width. [*](probable) Twin Bank technology was not implemented yet on this preproduction board, but will be later. [/list=1] We have to wait more than 6 weeks for any real knowledge!



    [edit: tried to make more sense of the "babelfish" translation]
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  • Reply 274 of 665
    mmicistmmicist Posts: 214member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NETROMac



    For a more intelligible translation:



    Quote:

    Originally from MacBidouille



    [Rumour} More info. on the PPC 970



    Here are some further exclusive runours about the PPC 970 motherboard. The source may be considered as very reliable. But, for want of proof, they remain rumours. This information concerns a prerelease motherboard sent to a very few Apple partners.



    - The motherboard is more rectangular than square (we had already received information about a "very long" board).

    - The processor is soldered to the board (typical of a prerelease board) with a standard heatsink on top.

    - But, above all, there are 8 RAM slots on the board (presumably PC3200) of which four are covered by a large "do not use" sticker. These 4 are connected differently to the other 4 (no more info. available).



    Various explanations for the presence of the 4 non-working slots can be postulated. Here they are in order of increasing likelyhood.



    1) (unlikely) They have been dropped from the final board.

    2) (possible) On the dual motherboard, each processor has it's own RAM, to increase the bandwidth.

    3) (probable) TheTwinBank technology had not been fully implemented on this prerelease motherboard, but will be later.



    Only 6 more works to find out!



    [/QUOTE]



    michael
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  • Reply 275 of 665
    From Looprumors.com:



    We received word that two large shipments of Power PC 970 processors went to Foxconn in Taiwan, under a purchase order from Apple computer. Twenty thousand 1.4Ghz PPC 970's and forty thousand 1.6Ghz PPC 970's have already arrived in their hands. IBM's inventory contains fifty thousand 1.8 Ghz PPC 970's, of which forty thousand are destined for Foxconn tomorrow (Wednesday).



    IBM has listed as pending 2Ghz parts as well, which means that it will be in inventory within a month if their fab in East Fishkill produces sufficient volumes of them, and from what we hear they should be in stock by mid-June. Apple has stated that they need a minimum of 40 thousand in order to make a production run, and from what we understand this is for dual processors because normally their production runs are twenty thousand units. It is not IBM's policy to comment on other vendor's unreleased products. We have also been briefed that the PPC 970 will come in 2.3 and 2.5Ghz configurations by the end of the year, and as well some preliminary specs on the upcoming 980 processor, which is a Power 5 derivative.





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    RosettaStoned
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  • Reply 276 of 665
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    Deja vu
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  • Reply 277 of 665
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mmicist

    For a more intelligible translation:

    2) (possible) On the dual motherboard, each processor has it's own RAM, to increase the bandwidth.

    3) (probable) TheTwinBank technology had not been fully implemented on this prerelease motherboard, but will be later.



    Only 6 more works to find out!







    Hm, where was there a mention about RAM dedicated per CPU in a dual system? Was that here or at Ars "Perpetual Future Apple CPU thread"?



    Ah ha! Oh god! The discussion arose from a MacOSRumors report. Yikes. (And MOSR has been done all weekend...)



    Six degrees of Mac Rumor Sites.



    Screed
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  • Reply 278 of 665
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    Can anyone explain what TwinBank is?
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  • Reply 279 of 665
    keyboardf12keyboardf12 Posts: 1,379member
    Similar to "Raid Striping" but for RAM?



    or is this a bad analogy?
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  • Reply 280 of 665
    rickagrickag Posts: 1,626member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by RosettaStoned

    From Looprumors.com:



    We received word that two large shipments of Power PC 970 processors......

    RosettaStoned




    If true, I hope like heck they're being sent airfreight. Ummm, on second thought, maybe EXPRESS airfreight.



    On further deliberation, get Mr. Steven Jobs to personally deliver them on his nice shiny jet ASAP.
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