I guess I'll have to build my own processor. So far I know that i'm gonna make it 20nm and 4.2GHz to start. 'wicked' fast FSB and the best part is it will have a 'processmaster2xxx' core for intesive processes. Of course this will use basically no electricity and ALWAYS feel cool to the touch, even in 100 degree weather.
What other features should i add?
Also how about names, SuperChip, BTI (Better Then Intel) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
P.S. - Sorry I took all possible seriousness or dignity this thread had before i posted
You see it makes sense! They need a new chip to replace the G3. And they need a even better chip to replace the G4. This way the PowerMacs and PowerBooks can have the IBM GPUL (which is supposed to be really tuff) and the iMacs and iBooks can have the Motorola "G5". This is what apple really needs to get ahead of the PC side. As well it would be a good idea to have chips from both companies and bring back the PPC alliance. This way apple can continue to stay ahead and not fall behind like they have. Steve's dream is that 10% and he knows that he can't get it with out better hardware. He has it all set up for the conversion to begin and the last step is all that is needed. Faster chips are just a most have and therefore we will see them soon. And the end of next year is just to long. MWSF it is folks!
<strong>You see it makes sense! They need a new chip to replace the G3. And they need a even better chip to replace the G4. This way the PowerMacs and PowerBooks can have the IBM GPUL (which is supposed to be really tuff) and the iMacs and iBooks can have the Motorola "G5". </strong><hr></blockquote>
There's one thing that I don't understand if this is true. And that is, it seems to me that the G5 may have better performance specs than the IBM chip. I just read somewhere that the GP-UL is supposed to be twice as powerful as a G4. The G5's rumored specs (according to the register) vs a 2Ghz P4 are as follows:
GHz 1.2 1.4 1.6 <strong>P4@2Ghz</strong>
SpecInt2000 987 1151 1340 <strong>656</strong>
SpecFP2000 1005 1173 1359 <strong>714</strong>
Anybody know what the SpecInt2000 and SpecFP2000 numbers are for a G4?
Whatever finally comes our way, it's nice for once to have <strong>2</strong> bad-ass chips to talk about. Heck, I'd be happy with either one of these...
There's one thing that I don't understand if this is true. And that is, it seems to me that the G5 may have better performance specs than the IBM chip. I just read somewhere that the GP-UL is supposed to be twice as powerful as a G4. The G5's rumored specs (according to the register) vs a 2Ghz P4 are as follows:
GHz 1.2 1.4 1.6 [qb]P4@2Ghz</strong>
SpecInt2000 987 1151 1340 <strong>656</strong>
SpecFP2000 1005 1173 1359 <strong>714</strong>
Anybody know what the SpecInt2000 and SpecFP2000 numbers are for a G4?
Whatever finally comes our way, it's nice for once to have <strong>2</strong> bad-ass chips to talk about. Heck, I'd be happy with either one of these...
\tWell it could be and actually would make more sense if the motorola "G5" came out at MWSF and was a higher performance chip than the GPUL. This Moto G5 would go into the Powermac and PowerBooks. Then toward the end of the year they would replace the G4 with the GPUL. The GPUL would then be placed in iMacs and iBooks. Umm didn't think of this before but it actually seems more likely. Good point cs_markt.
Oh great now your trying to destroy my thread. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> What ever happened to Dorsal M, did apple finally shut him up? His posts were all ways interesting but I haven't seen him in quite some time now.
\tWell let it go on record that I hereby declare an updated G4, to be called a G5, to be released at MWSF. Although a one month shipping wait will follow this announcement. This G4 will include .13U process SOI and a faster FSB. I will not say more for, as you all know, one can not see far in thick fog.
<strong>My source says the Motorola G5 exists and its rumored impressive specs are real. Also says its coming our way soon.
If this is true, will we have an option in the near future to choose what processer we want in our mac?
GP-UL or G5?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well eitehr your source is ill-informed or Apple will call a G4+ a G5. Moto does have a new mobo G4 due in Jan which is probably what your source is referring to. However, not sure what would be gained from calling it the G5 when IBM will have the power4 core out by fall. What then? Power5 or next gen 6 months after finally reaching the G5? Doesn't jive.
Well eitehr your source is ill-informed or Apple will call a G4+ a G5. Moto does have a new mobo G4 due in Jan which is probably what your source is referring to. However, not sure what would be gained from calling it the G5 when IBM will have the power4 core out by fall. What then? Power5 or next gen 6 months after finally reaching the G5? Doesn't jive.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe the new mobo is G5 ready <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> , if P58 is right!
What I was saying is that Motorola has a G4+ chip that will be ready by next year. It includes a faster bus, smaller .13U process, and SOI. It will not be 64bit, but this chip will offer improvement on the current design. That is all I know.
\tI do not know really whether it will be called a G5 or when, if it ever is, released. I imagine apple mite just slap it into the current design and say minimal about the new G4. They may be waiting for the GPUL to come and not want to be changing chip names around to much. But I think ( this is opinion) that apple will call this G4+ a G5 and make a deal of it at MWSF. Then it will be replaced by the G6 (or what ever they call it) from IBM in a year. Then G4+ (or G5 or whatever they call it, doesn't really matter what they call it) will go into the imacs ect. Apple will raise the iMac specs: faster bus, duals even, faster RAM ect. I keep saying this but people don't seem to ketch on.
\tWell beside my opinion, just as SC_martk, I say that this new Motorola chip will be out by february.
The link ( on IBM's page) is to the Eweek article that talks of the GPUL being used in new macs. So this is basically IBM telling us that eweek is right in saying that the GPUL will be used in the Mac. I guess this is as close to official a rumor can ever be. Man I'm selling my soul as soon as they come out!!!!! Any one want mine? lol
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I guess I'll have to build my own processor. So far I know that i'm gonna make it 20nm and 4.2GHz to start. 'wicked' fast FSB and the best part is it will have a 'processmaster2xxx' core for intesive processes. Of course this will use basically no electricity and ALWAYS feel cool to the touch, even in 100 degree weather.
What other features should i add?
Also how about names, SuperChip, BTI (Better Then Intel) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
P.S. - Sorry I took all possible seriousness or dignity this thread had before i posted
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If this is true, will we have an option in the near future to choose what processer we want in our mac?
GP-UL or G5?
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<strong>My source says the Motorola G5 exists and its rumored impressive specs are real. Also says its coming our way soon.
If this is true, will we have an option in the near future to choose what processer we want in our mac?
GP-UL or G5?</strong><hr></blockquote>
When is soon??
<strong>
When is soon??</strong><hr></blockquote>
Early next year.
<strong>If this is true, will we have an option in the near future to choose what processer we want in our mac?
GP-UL or G5?</strong><hr></blockquote>That doesn't seem plausible. They'll just be in different machines, like the G3s-G4s have been for years now.
<strong>That doesn't seem plausible. They'll just be in different machines, like the G3s-G4s have been for years now.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your probably right.
I just hope this guy is not lying to me or yanking my chain He was right on with some other info he had so I guess we'll see soon...
<strong>You see it makes sense! They need a new chip to replace the G3. And they need a even better chip to replace the G4. This way the PowerMacs and PowerBooks can have the IBM GPUL (which is supposed to be really tuff) and the iMacs and iBooks can have the Motorola "G5". </strong><hr></blockquote>
There's one thing that I don't understand if this is true. And that is, it seems to me that the G5 may have better performance specs than the IBM chip. I just read somewhere that the GP-UL is supposed to be twice as powerful as a G4. The G5's rumored specs (according to the register) vs a 2Ghz P4 are as follows:
GHz 1.2 1.4 1.6 <strong>P4@2Ghz</strong>
SpecInt2000 987 1151 1340 <strong>656</strong>
SpecFP2000 1005 1173 1359 <strong>714</strong>
Anybody know what the SpecInt2000 and SpecFP2000 numbers are for a G4?
Whatever finally comes our way, it's nice for once to have <strong>2</strong> bad-ass chips to talk about. Heck, I'd be happy with either one of these...
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There's one thing that I don't understand if this is true. And that is, it seems to me that the G5 may have better performance specs than the IBM chip. I just read somewhere that the GP-UL is supposed to be twice as powerful as a G4. The G5's rumored specs (according to the register) vs a 2Ghz P4 are as follows:
GHz 1.2 1.4 1.6 [qb]P4@2Ghz</strong>
SpecInt2000 987 1151 1340 <strong>656</strong>
SpecFP2000 1005 1173 1359 <strong>714</strong>
Anybody know what the SpecInt2000 and SpecFP2000 numbers are for a G4?
Whatever finally comes our way, it's nice for once to have <strong>2</strong> bad-ass chips to talk about. Heck, I'd be happy with either one of these...
[ 09-28-2002: Message edited by: sc_markt ]
[ 09-28-2002: Message edited by: sc_markt ][/QB]<hr></blockquote>
\tWell it could be and actually would make more sense if the motorola "G5" came out at MWSF and was a higher performance chip than the GPUL. This Moto G5 would go into the Powermac and PowerBooks. Then toward the end of the year they would replace the G4 with the GPUL. The GPUL would then be placed in iMacs and iBooks. Umm didn't think of this before but it actually seems more likely. Good point cs_markt.
Apple only has got to increase the memory bandwidth and the G4 goes off like a rocket.
Dual 1GHz with Dual-Channel DDR RAM (6.4GB/s)!!
The following is more a wishlist than an announcement:
IBM GPUL (G6): xStation, Powermac (1,6/2/2.4GHz)
MPC7500 (G5): xServe, Powerbook, iMac TFT (1/1.33GHz)
MPC7470 (G4): iBook, eMac, Cube2*g* (833MHz, 1GHz)
All Dual processors and Dual Channel DDR
G6 = 200MHz FSB (6.4GB/s)
G4, G5 = 166MHz FSB (5.4GB/s)
If Apple would increase marketshare, they have much more to do than all other companies.
Apple have got to put the best harware in it.
Apple have got to build quieter Cumputer than all others.
Apple have got to build faster Cumputer than others.
An consumer Mac must be at least as fast, as the best Wintels and the professional Macs must be faster.
...and all Switchers will come...
...and Apple will increase the marketshare to 20%... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
<strong>Well instead of complaining about the name why don't you give us a better one!</strong><hr></blockquote>
OH! OH! I got one! How about iChip 1 (G5), iChip 2 (G6), iChip 3 (G7).
or! or! or!
A1, A2, etc. (A for Apple)
Or B for big blue.
Or M for motorola.
Mach 1? nah.. to cheesy...
I still stick with the iChip. Yup, and hence forth it shall now be known. Follow me hence with such naming and ye shall prosper until your dying day.
\tWell let it go on record that I hereby declare an updated G4, to be called a G5, to be released at MWSF. Although a one month shipping wait will follow this announcement. This G4 will include .13U process SOI and a faster FSB. I will not say more for, as you all know, one can not see far in thick fog.
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
The G5 is Book-E based, the G4 isn't!
If Apple call it "G5", its the real one :cool:
<strong>My source says the Motorola G5 exists and its rumored impressive specs are real. Also says its coming our way soon.
If this is true, will we have an option in the near future to choose what processer we want in our mac?
GP-UL or G5?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well eitehr your source is ill-informed or Apple will call a G4+ a G5. Moto does have a new mobo G4 due in Jan which is probably what your source is referring to. However, not sure what would be gained from calling it the G5 when IBM will have the power4 core out by fall. What then? Power5 or next gen 6 months after finally reaching the G5? Doesn't jive.
<strong>
Well eitehr your source is ill-informed or Apple will call a G4+ a G5. Moto does have a new mobo G4 due in Jan which is probably what your source is referring to. However, not sure what would be gained from calling it the G5 when IBM will have the power4 core out by fall. What then? Power5 or next gen 6 months after finally reaching the G5? Doesn't jive.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe the new mobo is G5 ready <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> , if P58 is right!
\tI do not know really whether it will be called a G5 or when, if it ever is, released. I imagine apple mite just slap it into the current design and say minimal about the new G4. They may be waiting for the GPUL to come and not want to be changing chip names around to much. But I think ( this is opinion) that apple will call this G4+ a G5 and make a deal of it at MWSF. Then it will be replaced by the G6 (or what ever they call it) from IBM in a year. Then G4+ (or G5 or whatever they call it, doesn't really matter what they call it) will go into the imacs ect. Apple will raise the iMac specs: faster bus, duals even, faster RAM ect. I keep saying this but people don't seem to ketch on.
\tWell beside my opinion, just as SC_martk, I say that this new Motorola chip will be out by february.
The link ( on IBM's page) is to the Eweek article that talks of the GPUL being used in new macs. So this is basically IBM telling us that eweek is right in saying that the GPUL will be used in the Mac. I guess this is as close to official a rumor can ever be. Man I'm selling my soul as soon as they come out!!!!! Any one want mine? lol