IT Pros STILL Don't Know OS X Exists
I was in a huge corporate meeting/WebEx/Conference call thing today regarding corporate spam and virus protection. The host was a engineer from Trends Micro. They talked for 6 hours about Windows 2k, Linux and Solaris servers, and Win 2k desktop protection. I asked if they will ever make any Mac OS X Server and OS X desktop protection solutions and they paused, and then said "No." I could hear the engineers in the background whispering "Hey, doesn't Apple make some kind of Linux dirivative now?".
It's frustrating...
It's frustrating...
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Or was it just not your place to do so?
Originally posted by Brad
Then why didn't you speak up or at least mention that OSX is built on FreeBSD and offers the same level of stability and protection as most other breeds of Unix?
Or was it just not your place to do so?
I did say this:
"OS X is based on FreeBSD 4.4 with the Mach micro kernel. It contains lots of POSIX-compliant frameworks and is very easy to code for, escpeically if you already have Solaris and Linux source. Apple provieds OS X with UNIX staples such as Samba, BIND,SQL, FTP, Apache, Sendmail, PHP, Java, all the major shells. Apple even has an implementation of X Windows out now..."
I looked at the Micro Trends Server suite in Win 2k and the tops of most of the admin control panes look like OS X! LOL. They have thinn white ("snow") lines and soft grey floating text that screams APPLE. How ironic.
Originally posted by NETROMac
And what was their answer?
*pause*
.oO( We'll have to keep that shut firmly out of our customers' businesses or they won't need our services! )
"Hmm. Well, as I was saying, it's possible to secure Windows 2000 against viruses if you yadda yadda yadda...."
Originally posted by Amorph
*pause*
.oO( We'll have to keep that shut firmly out of our customers' businesses or they won't need our services! )
"Hmm. Well, as I was saying, it's possible to secure Windows 2000 against viruses if you ...."
...unplug it, lock it in a closet, and buy an xserve for your server needs
The only other option (which I am sad to say I have encountered) is that they do know about Macs, but try their best to keep them out of their workplace. This is because they're afraid their skills will be made redundant and they will be sacked.
Barto
IT Dork #2: No, man, what about 'em?
IT Dork #1: A new VP was hired in and he switched the entire corporate HQ over to Macs running OS X--EVEN THE SERVERS ARE RUNNING OS X!
IT Dork #2: Yeah, the guy's an idiot...so?
IT Dork #1: After the switchover was complete...he FIRED the entire IT staff except for 3 Mac guys!
IT Dork #2: (crapping his pants) No way!
IT Dork #1: Way!
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting 4 Microsoft Certified Professionals. Certification is beautiful because for most participants it creates mindless drones who push the product they're Certified in and act like nothing else exists.
Apple has a Certification Process now but it's on Training Wheels. They need to beef it up if they plan to make any moves into IT/Enterprise.
At my previous job, our Apple gurus tried to push OS X in a big way. A single problem hindered rolling out Mac to PC for over 3000 Staff members.
You can't get your password to expire after 30 days!
Doesn't work with (Open)LDAP nor does it work when you synch against NT servers.
We even had a couple of Apple engineers you said they could write a special login for us.
Mangement refused as they said it should be part of the standard OS.
Apple doesn't want to move into the corporate business or it would have built some basic login security.
Even System V had more login security than Mac!
Dobby.
Certification is beautiful because for most participants it creates mindless drones who push the product they're Certified in and act like nothing else exists.
It's called pragmatism
WWDC '03 has a huge IT track, though, and between that and their steadily evolving Windows network compatibility I think we'll see those sorts of features soon.
You can bet that Apple higher-ups heard about the 3000-Macs-but-for-login-expiration snafu.
I'm just envious that you were in a company that even got that far as far as Macs go. Here you might as well try convincing people to buy Wang.
Originally posted by Amorph
Yeah, and you can bypass the password-protected screensaver pretty easily too. Apple's still working on that part.
umm, how does one easiy bypass them? hitting esc or clicking cancel on the pw. window hasnt worked for a while...
Originally posted by Amorph
Yeah, and you can bypass the password-protected screensaver pretty easily too. Apple's still working on that part.
How? Enlighten us please. ;0)
Originally posted by dstranathan
How? Enlighten us please. ;0)
How about I eat crow instead?
The buggers seem to have fixed the problem, and I know they did it just to spite me, too.
MCSE is to IT as McDonalds Certified Food Preparer is to fine cuisine.
Originally posted by hmurchison
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting 4 Microsoft Certified Professionals. Certification is beautiful because for most participants it creates mindless drones who push the product they're Certified in and act like nothing else exists.
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ROTFL.
So true, so true.