the S55 is a great phone, superior to the t68i in every way i think.
At least in "snappiness". 1MB is quite sufficient for your adressebook and calendar. unless you have an enormous amount of contact information. but then the t610 wouldn't be good enough either.
The fact that it weights less than 85 grams makes it quite desirable.
The SL55 is the even prettier... if only it had bluetooth...
[B]the S55 is a great phone, superior to the t68i in every way i think.
At least in "snappiness".
I read that the T610 is snappier than the T68i, at least it's snappy enough for me. BTW, the S55 is AFAIK based on the same platform than the T68i, Siemens did only improve and add some things. Before buying a T610, I was also considering the S55 but apart from the smaller memory it also has two annoying, very pointy control keys. They might look cool, but I didn't like the touch.
I read that the T610 is snappier than the T68i, at least it's snappy enough for me.
Sure but the S55 is even snappier, (and cheaper), ofcourse it's a generation older with an inferior screen, no camera etc. But if the choice is T68i or S55, I would go with Siemens.
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BTW, the S55 is AFAIK based on the same platform than the T68i, Siemens did only improve and add some things.
Same platform? They're both proprietary, non-standard OS's as far as i know. I believe the T68i and the T610 would be closer in platform.
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Before buying a T610, I was also considering the S55 but apart from the smaller memory it also has two annoying, very pointy control keys. They might look cool, but I didn't like the touch.
ofcourse the T610 is better. no argument there. All I said was that it still might not handle all your contact.
If you really need a higher level of functionality, then the P800 seems like the perfect PDA phone to me at the moment. Of course its big as a bar of soap.
"... The other fact, which proves that T68 became a pioneer in its field, is that such phones as Siemens S55, SL55 are based on the same platform. But don?t forger that this two models are regarded to be modern phones and moreover, not long ago Siemens S55 was the most advanced phone on the market. The situation changed after introduction of Sony Ericsson T610. One more time the company overrun the time and set a new standard for this kind of handsets. T610 is based on the same platform as T68;"
"... The other fact, which proves that T68 became a pioneer in its field, is that such phones as Siemens S55, SL55 are based on the same platform. But don?t forger that this two models are regarded to be modern phones and moreover, not long ago Siemens S55 was the most advanced phone on the market. The situation changed after introduction of Sony Ericsson T610. One more time the company overrun the time and set a new standard for this kind of handsets. T610 is based on the same platform as T68;"
Well, I think you're misreading a badly formulated sentence. The S55 and SL55 may be modeled after the T68i, but in no way do they share any common OS or "software platform", just similar specs.
The Siemens OS is a natural evolvement of their proprietary OS which goes years back. It resembles what I once had on my S25. Which BTW was one of the very first color screen mobile phone. So it was only four colors. but it even had a 3D game!
The Ericsson OS is very similar in the t68i and the t310. the t610 has taken the same OS and evolved it much further.
With Symbian, series 60 (linkydinky) one can really start talking about a common platform, like the palm OS is a common platform for Handspring, Palm and Sony Clié.
I have a T610 (for about 2 weeks now) which replaced my old Nokia 6210. This is what i have to say about it:
It's a very nice looking phone. Very compact and fits beautifully in the hand. Screen is very bright and clear indoors, in bright sunshine it's completely washed out, barely readable. Still, thats the problem with lcd's...
Reception is not fantastic. My nokia was probably better, and that wasnt good anyway. It does tend to drop out in poorer reception areas, whereas others will hold on to the signal.
Battery life is pox! With bluetooth on (or even active), using the camera a bit, and making calls, it can last as little as ONE day. TUrning off non-essential features and not hitting the games/BT/camera/superfluous feature set too hard gets you 2-3 days max. My old nokia used to get about 7 days! - And i'm on the phone constantly too. Oh well, i might invest in a car charger..
Menu system is quite cruddy. Many user interface design rules are broken with monotonous regularity, and coming from a designers point of view this is quite frustrating. ie. when you go to send a message, you have to click the joystick no fewer than FOUR times just to get to your phone book. Then when you select your contact, another THREE button presses to send the message! So if you want to send a message to Aaraon A Aaderly you have to sit there pressing the OK button seven times.. quite pointless..
Games are good, i assume you can download more from sony's site too..
Camera is not bad. seriously, its resolution is not too good, but for viewing onscreen (computer or phone) its perfectly reasonable. If you want good pics buy a digital camera!
Synching is beautiful. One sync, and all my contacts, ical stuff etc etc was perfect on both computers and my phone. oh the joy -
Salling clicker is a winner too!
That's all really, for those used to nokia, the interface is irritating, but you eventually get over it, and now im very happy with my choice. One more thing - THERES NO NORMAL RING TONE! ALL FANCY PANCY MULTI-TONED BOLLOCKS - NO NORMAL 'RING RING' RING TONE!! ARGGHHH.....
My top two needs are good reception and bluetooth. Beyond that everything else is gravy.
Arty,
Have you looked at the Nokia 6310i? If reception and Bluetooth are the main priorities, this is a great phone . OK, it's a bit basic by today's standards (no camera, b&w screen, no polyphonic ring tones), but it's a solid phone that does a great job with the essentials. And the battery lasts for ages too - I don't use mine much, but I usually only have to charge it up about once a week.
I'm not sure how the address books stacks up, but according to the Nokia web site:
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The following functions use static memory:
Phonebook (up to 500 entries, depending on number of characters per entry)
SMS (up to 150 text messages or 50 picture/concatenated messages, depending on data quantity per message)
Voice recording (2 minutes)
Voice name tags (10 places)
Voice commands (5 predefined)
Ringing tones (35 preset, five variable)
I think that the phonebook limit of 500 entries means you can have 500 contacts with a number of different numbers for each entry. But check this, as I may have got it wrong - I don't have anywhere near 500 entries in mine, either contacts or total numbers .
This camera has the most useless camera, quality is deradful. The Nokia phones are much better. The screen on mine is now quite badly scratched/suffed I wonder what it will look like in a year? yes it is 500 numers in total so each fax, phone and mobile number counts. So you might only get 120 contacts if you have 4 numbers for each of them!
There must be better phones than this on the horizon, with luck one with Palm OS.
I like the 610. Especially the gprs/bluetooth modem connection for my powerbook.
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Originally posted by tokenfirstyear
Menu system is quite cruddy. Many user interface design rules are broken with monotonous regularity, and coming from a designers point of view this is quite frustrating. ie. when you go to send a message, you have to click the joystick no fewer than FOUR times just to get to your phone book. Then when you select your contact, another THREE button presses to send the message! So if you want to send a message to Aaraon A Aaderly you have to sit there pressing the OK button seven times.. quite pointless..
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Well, although off topic, you need three clicks. Hold ABC for awhile and you get that portion of the address book, choose name with joystick (should be the first) and Ok which of his numbers you want to phone.
Have had no major problems, although the battey life could be better. According to the seller the larger screen sucks power, as well as bluetooth I guess. I repower every 2-3 day.
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At least in "snappiness". 1MB is quite sufficient for your adressebook and calendar. unless you have an enormous amount of contact information. but then the t610 wouldn't be good enough either.
The fact that it weights less than 85 grams makes it quite desirable.
The SL55 is the even prettier... if only it had bluetooth...
Originally posted by New
[B]the S55 is a great phone, superior to the t68i in every way i think.
At least in "snappiness".
I read that the T610 is snappier than the T68i, at least it's snappy enough for me. BTW, the S55 is AFAIK based on the same platform than the T68i, Siemens did only improve and add some things. Before buying a T610, I was also considering the S55 but apart from the smaller memory it also has two annoying, very pointy control keys. They might look cool, but I didn't like the touch.
Originally posted by GSpotter
I read that the T610 is snappier than the T68i, at least it's snappy enough for me.
Sure but the S55 is even snappier, (and cheaper), ofcourse it's a generation older with an inferior screen, no camera etc. But if the choice is T68i or S55, I would go with Siemens.
BTW, the S55 is AFAIK based on the same platform than the T68i, Siemens did only improve and add some things.
Same platform? They're both proprietary, non-standard OS's as far as i know. I believe the T68i and the T610 would be closer in platform.
Before buying a T610, I was also considering the S55 but apart from the smaller memory it also has two annoying, very pointy control keys. They might look cool, but I didn't like the touch.
ofcourse the T610 is better.
If you really need a higher level of functionality, then the P800 seems like the perfect PDA phone to me at the moment. Of course its big as a bar of soap.
Originally posted by New
Same platform? They're both proprietary, non-standard OS's as far as i know. I believe the T68i and the T610 would be closer in platform.
See here :
"... The other fact, which proves that T68 became a pioneer in its field, is that such phones as Siemens S55, SL55 are based on the same platform. But don?t forger that this two models are regarded to be modern phones and moreover, not long ago Siemens S55 was the most advanced phone on the market. The situation changed after introduction of Sony Ericsson T610. One more time the company overrun the time and set a new standard for this kind of handsets. T610 is based on the same platform as T68;"
Originally posted by GSpotter
See here :
"... The other fact, which proves that T68 became a pioneer in its field, is that such phones as Siemens S55, SL55 are based on the same platform. But don?t forger that this two models are regarded to be modern phones and moreover, not long ago Siemens S55 was the most advanced phone on the market. The situation changed after introduction of Sony Ericsson T610. One more time the company overrun the time and set a new standard for this kind of handsets. T610 is based on the same platform as T68;"
Well, I think you're misreading a badly formulated sentence. The S55 and SL55 may be modeled after the T68i, but in no way do they share any common OS or "software platform", just similar specs.
The Siemens OS is a natural evolvement of their proprietary OS which goes years back. It resembles what I once had on my S25. Which BTW was one of the very first color screen mobile phone. So it was only four colors. but it even had a 3D game!
The Ericsson OS is very similar in the t68i and the t310. the t610 has taken the same OS and evolved it much further.
With Symbian, series 60 (linkydinky) one can really start talking about a common platform, like the palm OS is a common platform for Handspring, Palm and Sony Clié.
sorry for the nitpicking...
It's a very nice looking phone. Very compact and fits beautifully in the hand. Screen is very bright and clear indoors, in bright sunshine it's completely washed out, barely readable. Still, thats the problem with lcd's...
Reception is not fantastic. My nokia was probably better, and that wasnt good anyway. It does tend to drop out in poorer reception areas, whereas others will hold on to the signal.
Battery life is pox! With bluetooth on (or even active), using the camera a bit, and making calls, it can last as little as ONE day. TUrning off non-essential features and not hitting the games/BT/camera/superfluous feature set too hard gets you 2-3 days max. My old nokia used to get about 7 days! - And i'm on the phone constantly too. Oh well, i might invest in a car charger..
Menu system is quite cruddy. Many user interface design rules are broken with monotonous regularity, and coming from a designers point of view this is quite frustrating. ie. when you go to send a message, you have to click the joystick no fewer than FOUR times just to get to your phone book. Then when you select your contact, another THREE button presses to send the message! So if you want to send a message to Aaraon A Aaderly you have to sit there pressing the OK button seven times.. quite pointless..
Games are good, i assume you can download more from sony's site too..
Camera is not bad. seriously, its resolution is not too good, but for viewing onscreen (computer or phone) its perfectly reasonable. If you want good pics buy a digital camera!
Synching is beautiful. One sync, and all my contacts, ical stuff etc etc was perfect on both computers and my phone. oh the joy -
Salling clicker is a winner too!
That's all really, for those used to nokia, the interface is irritating, but you eventually get over it, and now im very happy with my choice. One more thing - THERES NO NORMAL RING TONE! ALL FANCY PANCY MULTI-TONED BOLLOCKS - NO NORMAL 'RING RING' RING TONE!! ARGGHHH.....
Originally posted by Arty50
My top two needs are good reception and bluetooth. Beyond that everything else is gravy.
Arty,
Have you looked at the Nokia 6310i? If reception and Bluetooth are the main priorities, this is a great phone
I'm not sure how the address books stacks up, but according to the Nokia web site:
The following functions use static memory:
Phonebook (up to 500 entries, depending on number of characters per entry)
SMS (up to 150 text messages or 50 picture/concatenated messages, depending on data quantity per message)
Voice recording (2 minutes)
Voice name tags (10 places)
Voice commands (5 predefined)
Ringing tones (35 preset, five variable)
I think that the phonebook limit of 500 entries means you can have 500 contacts with a number of different numbers for each entry. But check this, as I may have got it wrong - I don't have anywhere near 500 entries in mine, either contacts or total numbers
Hope this helps
Cheers,
Dave.
There must be better phones than this on the horizon, with luck one with Palm OS.
Originally posted by tokenfirstyear
Menu system is quite cruddy. Many user interface design rules are broken with monotonous regularity, and coming from a designers point of view this is quite frustrating. ie. when you go to send a message, you have to click the joystick no fewer than FOUR times just to get to your phone book. Then when you select your contact, another THREE button presses to send the message! So if you want to send a message to Aaraon A Aaderly you have to sit there pressing the OK button seven times.. quite pointless..
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Well, although off topic, you need three clicks. Hold ABC for awhile and you get that portion of the address book, choose name with joystick (should be the first) and Ok which of his numbers you want to phone.
Have had no major problems, although the battey life could be better. According to the seller the larger screen sucks power, as well as bluetooth I guess. I repower every 2-3 day.
firmware = R1A
hardware = R2A
build = 03W27
VERY happy with the phone, albeit a couple of quirks.
I also hate all of the provider-specific customizations! errrrr!!