Art inspired by War

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  • Reply 21 of 36
    curiousuburbcuriousuburb Posts: 3,325member
    jeez... 20 posts in and Nobody's singing John Lennon



    *all together now* ... all we are saying, is Give Peace a Chance.



    War - Edwin Starr, Springsteen, U2... take your pick



    Two Tribes... Frankie Goes to Hollywood





    much of Tolkien's Lord of The Rings was a response to WWI...



    how many films could i start to name
  • Reply 22 of 36
    709709 Posts: 2,016member
    Bah. Poetry sucks. What about John Nash, David Bomberg, Fernand Leger, Otto Dix....Basel, Underwood, Severini, et al?































    Now that's art. And only a smiggen from what WW1 created.
  • Reply 23 of 36
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Quote:

    No postings of the art and poetry that's now allowed after the US/UK/Aussies/Pols/nottheFrench freed the artists in Iraq from Saddam?



    What fun would that be?
  • Reply 24 of 36
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by thuh Freak

    for war, I'm partial to Robert Zimmerman.





    Quote:

    Oh my name it is nothin'

    My age it means less

    The country I come from

    Is called the Midwest

    I's taught and brought up there

    The laws to abide

    And that land that I live in

    Has God on its side.



    Oh the history books tell it

    They tell it so well

    The cavalries charged

    The Indians fell

    The cavalries charged

    The Indians died

    Oh the country was young

    With God on its side.



    Oh the Spanish-American

    War had its day

    And the Civil War too

    Was soon laid away

    And the names of the heroes

    I's made to memorize

    With guns in their hands

    And God on their side.



    Oh the First World War, boys

    It closed out its fate

    The reason for fighting

    I never got straight

    But I learned to accept it

    Accept it with pride

    For you don't count the dead

    When God's on your side.



    When the Second World War

    Came to an end

    We forgave the Germans

    And we were friends

    Though they murdered six million

    In the ovens they fried

    The Germans now too

    Have God on their side.



    I've learned to hate Russians

    All through my whole life

    If another war starts

    It's them we must fight

    To hate them and fear them

    To run and to hide

    And accept it all bravely

    With God on my side.



    But now we got weapons

    Of the chemical dust

    If fire them we're forced to

    Then fire them we must

    One push of the button

    And a shot the world wide

    And you never ask questions

    When God's on your side.



    In a many dark hour

    I've been thinkin' about this

    That Jesus Christ

    Was betrayed by a kiss

    But I can't think for you

    You'll have to decide

    Whether Judas Iscariot

    Had God on his side.



    So now as I'm leavin'

    I'm weary as Hell

    The confusion I'm feelin'

    Ain't no tongue can tell

    The words fill my head

    And fall to the floor

    If God's on our side

    He'll stop the next war.



  • Reply 25 of 36
    enaena Posts: 667member
    I had an epiphany the first time I saw the Frederic Remington collection at the Amon Carter in Ft. Worth.



    No, that's not the US cavalry chasing him.





    "Ridden Down"

  • Reply 26 of 36
    discocowdiscocow Posts: 603member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ena

    "Ridden Down"





    Beautiful, in that sad sort of way.





    Wow.



    Reminds me about how much I love the west (used to live in Colorado.)



    Course, IIRC, a bunch of self absorbed rich folk (*cough* Oprah *cough* Tom Cruise) have bought up half the land in the state, and now It'll cost you a testicle and a few large appendages just to get a three walled shack and an outhouse.



    It?s funny how it?s always easier to appreciate things after they?re gone.
  • Reply 27 of 36
    Ladies and Gents (Scott included...) The Dead Kennedys.

    Though the names and countries have changed

    the actions remain the same...



    " Stars And Stripes Of Corruption "



    Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night

    I couldn't wait

    I headed straight for the Capitol Mall

    My heart began to pound

    Yahoo! It really exists

    The American International Pictures logo



    I looked up at that Capitol Building

    Couldn't help but wonder why

    I felt like saying "Hello, old friend"



    Walked up the hill to touch it

    Then I unzipped my pants

    And pissed on it when nobody was looking



    Like a great eternal Klansman

    With his two flashing red eyes

    Turn around he's always watching

    The Washington monument pricks the sky

    With flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom



    The symbols of our heritage

    Lit up proudly in the night

    Somehow fits to see the homeless people

    Passed out on the lawn



    So this is where it happens

    The power games and bribes

    All lobbying for a piece of ass



    Of the stars and stripes of corruption

    Makes me feel so ashamed

    To be an American

    When we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes

    Trying to start another Viet Nam

    Whilke fiddling while Rome burns at home

    The Boss says, "You're laid off. Blame the Japanese"

    "America's back," alright

    At the game it plays the worst

    Strip mining the world like a slave plantation



    No wonder others hate us

    And the Hitlers we handpick

    To bleed their people dry

    For our evil empire



    The drug we're fed

    To make us like it

    Is God and country with a band



    People we know who should know better

    Howl, "America rules. Let's go to war!"

    Business scams are what's worth dying for



    Are the Soviets our worst enemy?

    We're destroying ourselves instead

    Who cares about our civil rights

    As long as I get paid?



    The blind Me-Generation

    Doesn't care if life's a lie



    so easily used, so proud to enforce



    The stars and stripes of corruption

    Let's bring it all down!

    Tell me who's the real patriots

    The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags?

    Or the people with the guts to work

    For some real change

    Rednecks and bombs don't make us strong

    We loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves

    Our real test of strength is caring

    Not the toys of war we sell the world


    Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms

    Old glory for a blanket

    As you suck on your thumbs



    Real freedom scares you

    'Cos it means responsibility




    So you chicken out and threaten me



    Saying, "Love it or leave it"

    I'll get beat up if I criticize it

    You say you'll fight to the death

    To save your worthless flag



    If you want a banana republic that bad

    Why don't you go move to one

    But what can just one of us do?

    Against all that money and power

    Trying to crush us into roaches?



    We don't destroy society in a day

    Until we change ourselves first

    From the inside out



    We can start by not lying so much

    And treating other people like dirt

    It's easy not to base our lives

    On how much we can scam



    And you know

    It feels good to lift that monkey off our backs



    I'm thankful I live in a place

    Where I can say the things I do

    Without being taken out and shot

    So I'm on guard against the goons

    Trying to take my rights away

    We've got to rise above the need for cops and laws



    Let kids learn communication

    Instead of schools pushing competition

    How about more art and theater instead of sports?



    People will always do drugs

    Let's legalize them

    Crime drops when the mob can't price them

    Budget's in the red?

    Let's tax religion



    No one will do it for us

    We'll just have to fix ourselves

    Honesty ain't all that hard

    Just put Rambo back inside your pants

    Causing trouble for the system is much more fun



    Thank you for the toilet paper

    But your flag is meaningless to me

    Look around, we're all people

    Who needs countries anyway?



    Our land, I love it too

    I think I love it more than you

    I care enough to fight



    The stars and stripes of corruption

    Let's bring it all down!

    If we don't try

    If we just lie

    If we can't find

    A way to do it better than this

    Who will?
  • Reply 28 of 36
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Scott

    Another anti-American thread?



    My favourite work of art inspired by war is The Iliad of Homer, which succeeds in being anti-American even though it was written thousands of years before the Pilgrim Fathers set off from Plymouth.



    And I like 'Coriolanus', by Shakespeare, too. And his anti-American 'Henry V' is good as well. And so is the anti-American poetry of Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, that's good, and so is the bas relief of the sack of Megiddo in the Valley of the Kings, which is a classic example of Late Kingdom Egyptian anti-Americanism.



    It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?
  • Reply 29 of 36
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah



    It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?




  • Reply 30 of 36
    discocowdiscocow Posts: 603member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah

    It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?



    Isn't it though?!



    Them Europeans have always hated the good ?ol U.S. of A. Well, I know that egypt place ain?t exactly in europe. But it?s close enough.



    Is surprises me though to hear that homer feller wrote all that anti american stuff, himself being from the greatest country in the world. His job at that powerplant must be wearing him somethin? awful for him to do something like that.



    stress stress stress
  • Reply 31 of 36
    photoguyphotoguy Posts: 10member
    As a Gulf War vet I have to dissagree with your bashing of Scott. I do not take pride that I took the life of my fellow man but it was my job. No one forced me to do it I voluenteered, I joined out of respect for the countless men who died in past wars. If it was not for there sacrafice you wouldn't have the rights to protest. It's a double edeged knife, men had to die to give you your rights. Think about that.

    Now don't flame me for my opinion, because as we all know opinions are like @rse holes, everybody has one and they all stink.
  • Reply 32 of 36
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by 709

    Bah. Poetry sucks. What about John Nash, David Bomberg, Fernand Leger, Otto Dix....Basel, Underwood, Severini, et al?

    Now that's art. And only a smiggen from what WW1 created.




    Two of those artists, Severini and Leger were not Anti-war . . . in fact Severini was a member of the italian Futurists who LOVED WARFARE and thought it was Hygiene for humanity: they loved brutality and machines and were, in late incarnations, Fascists.







    here is a painter who has a lot of work at the Visionary Art Museum (museum dedicated to Outsider Artists) in Baltimore that has an intesly powerfull vision of the world as essentially being about Warfare . . . and therefore being tantamount to being in hell . . . I can't remember his name but if I can track it down I will . . .
  • Reply 33 of 36
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah

    My favourite work of art inspired by war is The Iliad of Homer, which succeeds in being anti-American even though it was written thousands of years before the Pilgrim Fathers set off from Plymouth.



    And I like 'Coriolanus', by Shakespeare, too. And his anti-American 'Henry V' is good as well. And so is the anti-American poetry of Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, that's good, and so is the bas relief of the sack of Megiddo in the Valley of the Kings, which is a classic example of Late Kingdom Egyptian anti-Americanism.



    It is kind of weird how everyone's always hated America, forever, isn't it?




    Very funny.
  • Reply 34 of 36
    thuh freakthuh freak Posts: 2,664member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by bunge

    [With God on Our Side]



    I hadn't heard that one. Thanks for pointing it out. (and thank you [mutella], for allowing me to [sample] it).
  • Reply 35 of 36
    709709 Posts: 2,016member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pfflam

    Two of those artists, Severini and Leger were not Anti-war . . . in fact Severini was a member of the italian Futurists who LOVED WARFARE and thought it was Hygiene for humanity: they loved brutality and machines and were, in late incarnations, Fascists.



    I thought this was an 'art inspired by war' thread, not just anti-war art.
  • Reply 36 of 36
    Here is a good site to check out:



    Link



    About the site:



    Quote:

    In 1942 my father, George Rarey, a young cartoonist and commercial artist, was drafted into the Army Air Corps. He flew a P-47 before he drove a car. During his service he kept a cartoon journal of the daily life of the fighter pilots. A few weeks after D-Day he was killed in combat over France.



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