MW Tokyo Cancelled

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  • Reply 21 of 32
    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
    [quote]Originally posted by stunned:

    <strong>In my country Singapore, you will find more macs in furniture shops.



    the beautiful mac hardware makes the furniture looks good. However, outside the furniture shops, there are hardly any macs to be seen.



    I estimate the number of mac users in Singapore to be 1%.

    But one bright spot is that Apple has recently opened more apple centers in my country. I hope that will bring in more mac users.



    However, the prices of the apple computers is easily 3 times more expensive than PCs.... and that is really discouraging many buyers... </strong><hr></blockquote>





    Who can argue with success? Apple I guess. My impression has been that Apple has a strong, committed, and growing hold on the Japanese elites who use macs and all those who wanna be. I spend several months a year in Japan and MacTokyo was always a real high point for the mac Community as several pointed out here. However, one can never overestimate the stupidity of American companies trying to "penetrate" the Japanese market. I don't refer to Apple, but I can imagine the scene in half those little distributors or manufacturers, offices: " MacWorld Tokyo, A show in Tokyo? That's in Japan isn't it. Too expensive. Too much travel. Bottom line is I don't speak Japanese anyway.?



    How, I ask are you going to sell in Asia if you don't show in Asia?



    <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />



    [ 12-08-2002: Message edited by: Cubit ]</p>
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  • Reply 22 of 32
    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
    [quote]Originally posted by scottiB:

    <strong>The Paris show is an AppleExpo (organized by Apple, itself, I believe) not a MacWorld (organized by IDG). It seems that the Tokyo cancellation might be more a dig at IDG rather than withdrawing from Japan (economic issues notwithstanding).



    OTOH, perhaps Apple is angling for one Apple-centric show--MacWorld-SF, or, if they cut loose totally from IDG, Apple will have a World AppleExpo in SF.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That would be a good thing.



    Thanks for the boost. :cool:
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  • Reply 23 of 32
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    [quote]Originally posted by Cubit:

    <strong>





    Who can argue with success? Apple I guess. My impression has been that Apple has a strong, committed, and growing hold on the Japanese elites who use macs and all those who wanna be. I spend several months a year in Japan and MacTokyo was always a real high point for the mac Community as several pointed out here. However, one can never overestimate the stupidity of American companies trying to "penetrate" the Japanese market. I don't refer to Apple, but I can imagine the scene in half those little distributors or manufacturers, offices: " MacWorld Tokyo, A show in Tokyo? That's in Japan isn't it. Too expensive. Too much travel. Bottom line is I don't speak Japanese anyway.?



    How, I ask are you going to sell in Asia if you don't show in Asia?



    <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />



    [ 12-08-2002: Message edited by: Cubit ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Exactly. A macworld in my country is bound to attract alot of attention. Even if the show is scaled down and missing lots of special effects, it would still put a smile in the mac community of my country.



    Pls Apple, dun forget Asia. We are customers too.
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  • Reply 24 of 32
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>Outside the US Apple's marketshare is non-existant.



    [ 12-06-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    apple is HUGE in tokyo - maybe all of japan, but i am not sure. a friend of mine visited for two weeks to see old family, and brought back pictures. you can't spit without hitting a mac (especially during the candy-colored days when my friend visited). imacs and ibooks every-friggin'-where.



    then again, a cab he took one day had a built-in GPS and computer screen mapper -- this was in 1999/2000 people, so i was stunned -- so tokyo has a penchant for seizing on new technology (probably because so much of it is actually produced and assembled in the asian countries).
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  • Reply 25 of 32
    I wonder if the loss of MWT means that no mobile device will be premiered, because if one were, one might think Tokyo would be a good place to promote it, due to the Japanese interest in for mobile computing. (If I recall there was a powerbook released there a while ago.)



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  • Reply 26 of 32
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    [quote]Originally posted by rok:

    <strong>



    apple is HUGE in tokyo - maybe all of japan, but i am not sure. a friend of mine visited for two weeks to see old family, and brought back pictures. you can't spit without hitting a mac (especially during the candy-colored days when my friend visited). imacs and ibooks every-friggin'-where.



    then again, a cab he took one day had a built-in GPS and computer screen mapper -- this was in 1999/2000 people, so i was stunned -- so tokyo has a penchant for seizing on new technology (probably because so much of it is actually produced and assembled in the asian countries).</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yes, Apple is big in Japan, and maybe doing OK in the UK, but look at Europe, and the rest of Asia. Apple's worldwide (total) marketshare is smaller as a percentage than it is in the US.
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  • Reply 27 of 32
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    SHIT. so this means either new PBG4s at MWSF or who knows when? Because usually MWT = laptops. I just got a job here at my college and I am saving pennies. I am actually going to have a mighty PBG4! I am waiting for its new form factor! I was hoping a new one would come out at either MWSF or MWT, what do you all think?
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  • Reply 28 of 32
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    [quote]Originally posted by Aquatic:

    <strong>I am waiting for its new form factor! I was hoping a new one would come out at either MWSF or MWT, what do you all think?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not before May 2003 (or even July). And I don't think Apple is considering a change in the Powerbook form factor for the next revision. This will probably happen to accommodate more radical modifications (like the transition from the G4 to PPC 970). What is the problem with the current 1 Ghz Powerbook?
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  • Reply 29 of 32
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    ?My CDs are 8mm.

    ?Airport range still isn't up to par with the iBook is it?

    ?The next PB will likely have lots of new goodies in it. Better CPU, cooool new form factor, better sreen, etc. Bluetooth I won't use but it's cool. FireWire 2?

    Anyway I can wait till sometime in Feb but then I'll have the money but not the patience. Apple can't think about leaving the PBG4 until next July. That's not their MO. And I'm hoping!
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  • Reply 30 of 32
    mokimoki Posts: 551member
    [quote]Originally posted by icruise:

    <strong>This really does suck. MacWorld Tokyo was a great event for Mac people in Japan and gave Apple some good press. I suppose they must have thought it wasn't worth the money it cost, but it's too bad. I was planning on going next year. At least I made it last time.



    [ 12-06-2002: Message edited by: icruise ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Tell me about it -- now I can't write off a business trip to Japan in 2003. This truly does suck.



    All jest aside, I'm surprised -- last year's show in Tokyo was huge, and quite a success.
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  • Reply 31 of 32
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    There's an article in the latest MacUeer that claims a MacWorld Expo will take place in London next year, seemingly to replace the smaller MacExpo that's been going on the past few years.



    It also seemed to imply that this would replace Paris.



    <a href="http://www.macuser.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=36082"; target="_blank">http://www.macuser.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=36082</a>;



    Supposedly it's at the above address, but I'm getting errors.
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  • Reply 32 of 32
    Before the internet events like MW were needed to bring people together to meet vendors. Since then it has gotten much easier to get information from vendors without visiting their booth. Even if you visit their booth they are less likely than before to bring engineers anyway.



    I suspect Apple has reviewed the costs and benefits of MWT and decided to spend their nickels elsewhere. For example, I heard they were setting up some kind of a kiosk or something near Shinjuku station where pedestrians could try out Mac hardware. Japan already has a number of sales outlets that show off Apple hardware quite well. I also heard that Apple will station people in the larger outlets to answer questions, demo equipment, keep the demo equipment up and running. Perhaps this is where the show budget went to?
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