You both must have missed the fact that I placed a question mark at the end of the subject.
Therefore it was a question, not a statement.
Most people with a good grasp of English would have read it as "Did Steve Jobs lie to us" or "It seems that Steve Jobs lied to us, is this true?" or "Do you think that Steve Jobs lied to us" etc etc.
Well, there is the whole question whether this is a workstation or not, but the Athlon 64 is due soon as well and if it ships first then Stevo "embellished" a bit.
The G5 tower will be the first complete 64 bit desktop computer system for 2000 $.
The opteron cost more, and there isn't any consumer windows version who support it now. I won't consider buying one unless, MS start to make a consumer version for it.
To be honest, i think the Opteron is aimed squarely at the linux market. Linux will fly on it, and when you compile your own software, you can compile it specifically for Opterons.
Even if Windows is realeased for Opterons, all the other apps would need recompiling or else take a huge speed hit and not see any advantage (64 bit) to running on an Opteron.
The G5 tower will be the first complete 64 bit desktop computer system for 2000 $.
Apart from Sun's low end systems (but they look rather low powered compared to the G5/Opeteron ). Sun used to have a $1K 64bit workstation (SunBlade 100?).
To be honest, i think the Opteron is aimed squarely at the linux market. Linux will fly on it, and when you compile your own software, you can compile it specifically for Opterons.
This is almost a given, as AMD has been quite effectively shut out of the Windows market by Intel.
Dell's interested now, though, since AMD is offering something Intel isn't.
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Even if Windows is realeased for Opterons, all the other apps would need recompiling or else take a huge speed hit and not see any advantage (64 bit) to running on an Opteron.
The Opteron very closely resembles an Athlon, so I don't imagine it'll take any more of a speed hit than the Athlon has. Obviously, it'll do better under Linux, for those people who compile their own apps, but then so will any architecture.
While I find the Powermac G5's case to be a work of art, it's lack of expandability bugs me.
Edit: I configured that dual Opteron similarly to a top-end Powermac G5 and came out with a price of $4200. Seems that the high end Powermac is an awesome deal...and I can live with the lame expandability for a cool $1200. 8)
Has anyone here ever used 5 PCI slots in a machine?!
Or even more than 3? I can see needing a high end sound card and an HiDef Digital Video card... and a card for a second monitor... maybe I'm not a "power user".
Has anyone here ever used 5 PCI slots in a machine?!
Or even more than 3? I can see needing a high end sound card and an HiDef Digital Video card... and a card for a second monitor... maybe I'm not a "power user".
You don't need a second card for a second monitor.
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Therefore it was a question, not a statement.
Most people with a good grasp of English would have read it as "Did Steve Jobs lie to us" or "It seems that Steve Jobs lied to us, is this true?" or "Do you think that Steve Jobs lied to us" etc etc.
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The opteron cost more, and there isn't any consumer windows version who support it now. I won't consider buying one unless, MS start to make a consumer version for it.
Even if Windows is realeased for Opterons, all the other apps would need recompiling or else take a huge speed hit and not see any advantage (64 bit) to running on an Opteron.
The G5 tower will be the first complete 64 bit desktop computer system for 2000 $.
Apart from Sun's low end systems (but they look rather low powered compared to the G5/Opeteron
Originally posted by 1337_5L4Xx0R
To be honest, i think the Opteron is aimed squarely at the linux market. Linux will fly on it, and when you compile your own software, you can compile it specifically for Opterons.
This is almost a given, as AMD has been quite effectively shut out of the Windows market by Intel.
Dell's interested now, though, since AMD is offering something Intel isn't.
Even if Windows is realeased for Opterons, all the other apps would need recompiling or else take a huge speed hit and not see any advantage (64 bit) to running on an Opteron.
The Opteron very closely resembles an Athlon, so I don't imagine it'll take any more of a speed hit than the Athlon has. Obviously, it'll do better under Linux, for those people who compile their own apps, but then so will any architecture.
4 Hard drive bays
5 PCI slots
3 5.25" Optical drive bays
2 3.5" drive bays
While I find the Powermac G5's case to be a work of art, it's lack of expandability bugs me.
Edit: I configured that dual Opteron similarly to a top-end Powermac G5 and came out with a price of $4200. Seems that the high end Powermac is an awesome deal...and I can live with the lame expandability for a cool $1200. 8)
Or even more than 3? I can see needing a high end sound card and an HiDef Digital Video card... and a card for a second monitor... maybe I'm not a "power user".
Originally posted by chu_bakka
Has anyone here ever used 5 PCI slots in a machine?!
Or even more than 3? I can see needing a high end sound card and an HiDef Digital Video card... and a card for a second monitor... maybe I'm not a "power user".
You don't need a second card for a second monitor.