is terminator 3 going to do well in a post matrix world
as much as i liked terminator and terminator 2, they are pretty much relics of action movies past. T2 was groundbreaking in its use of new effects, but without cameron on board i don't expect anything cutting edge from this one.
it cost 180 million to make so it's going to have to gross, what 250 mil? to come out even. (not that that has anything to do with the quality of the movie)
i was surprised to see it's less than 2 hours long as well, hardly an epic adventure eh?
my question is, are any of you going to flock to see it?
it cost 180 million to make so it's going to have to gross, what 250 mil? to come out even. (not that that has anything to do with the quality of the movie)
i was surprised to see it's less than 2 hours long as well, hardly an epic adventure eh?
my question is, are any of you going to flock to see it?
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Under two hours is probably a good thing. At the very least it will mean more showings per night at any given theater, and move tickets purchased. I don't expect it to do very well either.
I'm not sure what the new one adds. As far as I can tell from the teevee ads it's more of the same. Maybe this a "wait for DVD" flick. I'll check the reviews.
ebert has reservations only 2 1/2 stars
Having said that this might be a good film but it doesn't have Cameron who basically invented the Terminator idea. Also to extend it beyond what was already a great ending to me seems to cheapen the whole thing.
I'll probably see it but I have my doubts.
As one person said on " Ain't It Cool News " : " This is the sequel nobody asked for ".
On another note I'm kind of wondering about a movie called " The league Of Extordinary Gentlemen ". In terms of new and fresh I think it might be good! And after all it does have Sean Connery.
The second Terminator was a huge leap forward from the first film. Cameron ingeneously reinvented his own formula.
The third film doesn't appear to do any of the above. To me, it doesn't appear to be moving any of the concepts forward.
Originally posted by Randycat99
I'm looking forward to seeing it. Knowing full well that Cameron isn't onboard, I go in with reduced expectations so as not to disappoint myself. I don't demand it to break any new paradigms or be "epic" or be ground shattering in the least (nor does it have to break the latest box office record, for me to feel good about the movie). All I ask for is an interesting story, decent action scenes, and some kewl visuals. I think people end up sabotaging the experience themself by expecting something earthshattering, something comparable to bringing world peace. How could "a" movie rightly meet those expectations? It's just a movie. If it turns out to be good- great! If it stinks, hey, I wasn't expecting much to begin with. I'm as much as a Terminator fan as the next guy, but it's no big loss to me.
Well for some of us ( not that I'm trying to invalidate your perspective ) is that say you make a series of flawless gems and then include an attractive but cheap knockoff in the set........
If I were worried about it, I would have been unrequitedly pissed about where the Alien storyline went after the 2nd movie- all downhill... Good things never last. I'm at peace with that notion. I'm just pleased there is a new edition to the Terminator series. Naturally, it is a bit of a disappointment that JC isn't doing it, but that's just the nature of things. I'm not even sure if he still has the "knack" for the big sci-fi blockbuster even if he was doing it. Good things never last. So the upside is simply that he did it at least once and really batted it out of the park.
I was kind of dissapointed when I heard they wer emaking T3, becuase I remember reading that T2 was never supposed to have a sequel, though many people wanted it.
I watched it just the other night, and it certainly ends on a great note, no sequel is needed at all for the two movies to still be totally awesome.
I am worried that T3 might tarnish the series and undermine that great not-so-resolving-but-totally-perfect ending of T2.
A friend of mine's dad worked on the movie as the lead sound guy, my friend likewise got lots of inside info, he told me that the movie doesn't take itself very seriously, and that there is more than a generous helping of comic relief(be it funny or not) But I shall see that for myself I guess when I do go see it.
Originally posted by Randycat99
All movie licenses get trashed sooner or later. It's futile to worry about "preservation" of integrity. I think T2 was the pinnacle, anyway. So it's not like there is a trend for them to uphold, AFAIC.
If I were worried about it, I would have been unrequitedly pissed about where the Alien storyline went after the 2nd movie- all downhill... Good things never last. I'm at peace with that notion. I'm just pleased there is a new edition to the Terminator series. Naturally, it is a bit of a disappointment that JC isn't doing it, but that's just the nature of things. I'm not even sure if he still has the "knack" for the big sci-fi blockbuster even if he was doing it. Good things never last. So the upside is simply that he did it at least once and really batted it out of the park.
Yeah, another thing that T3 suffers when juxtaposed to the other 2, is the same thing that plagues the Star Wars saga, the first three movies have such embedded nostalgia and glory that the new additions(even though episode 2 kicked ass)will always been lacking simply becuase they don't have that established "I've seen this movie a million times and I still love it" type glow to them.
i'm thinking it'll be very entertaining.
Originally posted by Randycat99
All I ask for is an interesting story, decent action scenes, and some kewl visuals
I usually go to the movies to be, well? moved. And for that it takes a lot more than the above. No, that isn't to say that I only go to the movies to watch arty films. But why would I want to put myself through the ordeal of cinematographic mediocrity? (The only reason I can think of: Cause it's quite easy. After all, how often do we see Hollywood films that reach beyond technical perfection, into the realm of relevancy?)
Originally posted by Randycat99
?If I were worried about it, I would have been unrequitedly pissed about where the Alien storyline went after the 2nd movie- all downhill...
I was actually quite pissed-off with where the Alien storyline went after "Alien" . I mean, come on! What was so good about "Aliens", other than some of the prop-design?
Terminator was a very good movie. T2? Not so bad, even though the abbreviation IS annoying - like any film title turned into a Brand?. But T3? You've got to be kidding me.
PS. Randycat, I may have quoted you twice as a basis for my comments, but please don't take this personal - it is not.
Originally posted by Eugene
T3 has Kristanna Løken and The Matrix does not.
If my memory serves me well, the Matrix (Reloaded) has not only Carrie-Anne Moss, but Monica Bellucci, too. Does that make the Matrix (Reloaded) a better film? No, it was probably as bad as one can expect the 3rd Terminator movie to be.
I still maintain that Aliens is my all time favorite movie (for me- in no way, do I feel that others should feel the same). It was the perfect blend of horror, action, humor, sci-fi, and character development for the heroine Ripley (I could go on and on and on for this particular element...). The original Alien was interesting but never my favorite. To me, it was just a horror flick that happened upon a sci-fi theme with tremendous potential. Other than being spooked, I found myself bored for the lack of action. Alien3 was sort of like a "wrap up the destiny of Ripley" cap- essential, but paled in execution compared to the glory of Aliens.
Originally posted by nixi
If my memory serves me well, the Matrix (Reloaded) has not only Carrie-Anne Moss, but Monica Bellucci, too. Does that make the Matrix (Reloaded) a better film? No, it was probably as bad as one can expect the 3rd Terminator movie to be.
Carrie Anne Moss is so meh...she's a boy with soft skin and plucked eyebrows..
Monica Belluci doesn't do it for me...believe me I've tried...