Note: all specualtion on my part, but based on info available here and elsewhere.
PowerMac - we already know it is getting the 970, and will run the path towards a 970+/980/980+/etc.
We know absolutely nothing about 970 successors. No 970+, 980, 980+, 990 or 9900 information has been made publicly available. It is pure speculation. And note for our friends at MacBidouille (with genuine Extrapolate® technology): four-digit PowerPCs are typically from Motorola, so your 9800 / 9900 crap sounds fishy.
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PowerBook - will get the 970 within the next 2 revs. Meaning there very well could be a G4 upgrade (1GHz/1.2Ghz) and then the 970.
That I consider likely.
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iMac - There is still plenty of G4 head room (400 Mhz at least) for advances. Since the iMac doesn't use duals, a current 1.4GHz G4 7455 could very well appear without all the massive heatsinks/fans needed to cool a dual tower setup. Or it could get teh 7457, if Apple starts using it. I see the 970 creeping in after 2 or more revs.
Yup.
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eMac - Will stay G4 for the short term, but I think jump over to a 750VX/850 once altivec springs up. I dont see this going 970 anytime soon. I also don't see Apple calling the 750GX/850 a G3.
iBook - I think will track along the 750GX/750VX/850 line. I don't see it ever getting a G4, or the 970.
Uh, 8xx / 8xxx machines aren't desktop (or laptop, for that matter) CPUs. Dunno where your 850 stuff is from - but it's wrong.
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So now for the simple breakdown. I am thinking 1 year from now that the PowerMac (up to 3.0 GHz), PowerBook (up to 2.0GHz),
More like 2.5 (the PowerBook)
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and iMac (up to 2.0GHz) will all be 970s. The eMac (up to 1.5GHz) and iBook (up to 1.5GHz) will be 750VX/850. No more MOT in any of Apples lineup, and a solid range of products.
I really wonder about your 850 remarks.
G3s Apple would use are either 740s or 750s. The 740 is basically dead, and the 750 has been developed further (750CXe, 750fx and now 750gx) by IBM.
We know absolutely nothing about 970 successors. No 970+, 980, 980+, 990 or 9900 information has been made publicly available. It is pure speculation.
Well, all I was implying is that something has to come after the 970. Call it what you want. We know the chip has to progress into something, this isn't the end of the line for PPC.
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And note for our friends at MacBidouille (with genuine Extrapolate® technology): four-digit PowerPCs are typically from Motorola, so your 9800 / 9900 crap sounds fishy.
I assume you are talking about MacBidouille and not me, as I never mention a 9800 or 9900.
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Uh, 8xx / 8xxx machines aren't desktop (or laptop, for that matter) CPUs. Dunno where your 850 stuff is from - but it's wrong.
I once again made no mention to 8XXX anywhere in my post. The 850 was posted about here earlier. Not sure which thread, but it was awhile back. I believe that later someone mentioned it was really just the 750VX and numbers/names got changed/confused. The "850" was supposed to be a G3 with SIMD, RapdIO, new bus technology, etc.
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More like 2.5 (the PowerBook)
In 1 year? I don't see that big of a jump (from 1GHz today to 2.5GHz). I think the 2Ghz number was a good estimate, also knowing that these would need to be "low power" 970s (like the supposed 1.2 GHz part of now).
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I really wonder about your 850 remarks.
G3s Apple would use are either 740s or 750s. The 740 is basically dead, and the 750 has been developed further (750CXe, 750fx and now 750gx) by IBM.
See note above. The 850 was supposedly the further evolution of the 750. My guess is someone here made a typo, read wrong, or soemthing. The specs that were listed with it, do start to match up to the 750VX...
We know absolutely nothing about 970 successors. No 970+, 980, 980+, 990 or 9900 information has been made publicly available.
(snip)
The sad part about it is ... even "behind the scenes", info is kinda "sparse". The security on "unannounced processors" is very good ... unless you're work'n on them.
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Originally posted by kupan787
Note: all specualtion on my part, but based on info available here and elsewhere.
PowerMac - we already know it is getting the 970, and will run the path towards a 970+/980/980+/etc.
We know absolutely nothing about 970 successors. No 970+, 980, 980+, 990 or 9900 information has been made publicly available. It is pure speculation. And note for our friends at MacBidouille (with genuine Extrapolate® technology): four-digit PowerPCs are typically from Motorola, so your 9800 / 9900 crap sounds fishy.
PowerBook - will get the 970 within the next 2 revs. Meaning there very well could be a G4 upgrade (1GHz/1.2Ghz) and then the 970.
That I consider likely.
iMac - There is still plenty of G4 head room (400 Mhz at least) for advances. Since the iMac doesn't use duals, a current 1.4GHz G4 7455 could very well appear without all the massive heatsinks/fans needed to cool a dual tower setup. Or it could get teh 7457, if Apple starts using it. I see the 970 creeping in after 2 or more revs.
Yup.
eMac - Will stay G4 for the short term, but I think jump over to a 750VX/850 once altivec springs up. I dont see this going 970 anytime soon. I also don't see Apple calling the 750GX/850 a G3.
iBook - I think will track along the 750GX/750VX/850 line. I don't see it ever getting a G4, or the 970.
Uh, 8xx / 8xxx machines aren't desktop (or laptop, for that matter) CPUs. Dunno where your 850 stuff is from - but it's wrong.
So now for the simple breakdown. I am thinking 1 year from now that the PowerMac (up to 3.0 GHz), PowerBook (up to 2.0GHz),
More like 2.5
and iMac (up to 2.0GHz) will all be 970s. The eMac (up to 1.5GHz) and iBook (up to 1.5GHz) will be 750VX/850. No more MOT in any of Apples lineup, and a solid range of products.
I really wonder about your 850 remarks.
G3s Apple would use are either 740s or 750s. The 740 is basically dead, and the 750 has been developed further (750CXe, 750fx and now 750gx) by IBM.
Originally posted by Chucker
We know absolutely nothing about 970 successors. No 970+, 980, 980+, 990 or 9900 information has been made publicly available. It is pure speculation.
Well, all I was implying is that something has to come after the 970. Call it what you want. We know the chip has to progress into something, this isn't the end of the line for PPC.
And note for our friends at MacBidouille (with genuine Extrapolate® technology): four-digit PowerPCs are typically from Motorola, so your 9800 / 9900 crap sounds fishy.
I assume you are talking about MacBidouille and not me, as I never mention a 9800 or 9900.
Uh, 8xx / 8xxx machines aren't desktop (or laptop, for that matter) CPUs. Dunno where your 850 stuff is from - but it's wrong.
I once again made no mention to 8XXX anywhere in my post. The 850 was posted about here earlier. Not sure which thread, but it was awhile back. I believe that later someone mentioned it was really just the 750VX and numbers/names got changed/confused. The "850" was supposed to be a G3 with SIMD, RapdIO, new bus technology, etc.
More like 2.5
In 1 year? I don't see that big of a jump (from 1GHz today to 2.5GHz). I think the 2Ghz number was a good estimate, also knowing that these would need to be "low power" 970s (like the supposed 1.2 GHz part of now).
I really wonder about your 850 remarks.
G3s Apple would use are either 740s or 750s. The 740 is basically dead, and the 750 has been developed further (750CXe, 750fx and now 750gx) by IBM.
See note above. The 850 was supposedly the further evolution of the 750. My guess is someone here made a typo, read wrong, or soemthing. The specs that were listed with it, do start to match up to the 750VX...
Originally posted by Chucker
We know absolutely nothing about 970 successors. No 970+, 980, 980+, 990 or 9900 information has been made publicly available.
(snip)
The sad part about it is ... even "behind the scenes", info is kinda "sparse". The security on "unannounced processors" is very good ... unless you're work'n on them.