Panther 7B** Builds Discussion (images on page 2 & 5)

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  • Reply 1141 of 1176
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Proud iBook Owner 2k2

    Luca:: In the Finder I can band-select just fine....this is if you mean drawing a box around icons to select them



    Yeah, I can select with the box just fine as well. The only problem is that you can't do it properly when there is a movie playing in the preview pane in Column view. Highlight a movie but don't open it, just use the preview section of Column view to watch it. Notice that the selection box is all funky.
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  • Reply 1142 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cowerd

    This usually points to a hardware problem. Check your RAM.



    I did. I ran the extended hardware check. No problems. Got my memory at TransIntl. They're fairly reliable. Also checked (and fixed) the notorious AirPortExtreme seating (which was a kernel panic beast of its own).
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  • Reply 1143 of 1176
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Hate to say this, but Apple's hardware checks lack one critical test. I got bitten by it. :/





    If you can boot into 9 (not Classic), do so and get GaugePro, a utility that does a more comprehensive RAM check than either the Hardware Test CD that came with your machine, or even CHUD.



    It pegged my RAM as faulty when nothing else did, I replaced it, no problems since.
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  • Reply 1144 of 1176
    kedakeda Posts: 722member
    sorry to get off topic, but...



    Holy 5hit!!!



    I have a possessed G3 here and had totally forgotten about GuagePro. I just booted into 9 and ran it...its reporting bad RAM.



    Now, how do I isolate which one it is?
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  • Reply 1145 of 1176
    Well merde, I don't think I can boot into OS9 with a brand spankin' new PB12"/1GHz.... shoot me in the foot. I HOPE it's not bad ram.



    I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll take out the 512MB RAM I got from TransIntl. and see how 7B85 runs without it.
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  • Reply 1146 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Luca Rescigno

    Yeah, I can select with the box just fine as well. The only problem is that you can't do it properly when there is a movie playing in the preview pane in Column view. Highlight a movie but don't open it, just use the preview section of Column view to watch it. Notice that the selection box is all funky.



    Heh well I never use Column view. I prefer either by list or by icon....
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  • Reply 1147 of 1176
    cowerdcowerd Posts: 579member
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    Also, constant kernel panics on a new 12" PBG4/1GHz, even after a clean install w/o any additional software/kexts. Don't know if it's a problem with my particular machine



    This may be your problem (from Macintouch):

    Quote:

    [Layton Freitas] I've a new 12" PowerBook, and am regularly getting kernel panics.... If I grab the laptop by the left wrist rest and squeeze it from both sides, I get a kernel panic every time. Hmph.



    [Ivan Drucker] Regarding the reader who got kernel panics when lifting his PowerBook by the left palmrest, I got the exact same behavior when I first bought mine. Apple promptly fixed it, and the repair report said they replaced both the hard drive (meaning a fresh and empty OS X installation) and an internal drive cable. The hard drive is seated right under the left palmrest, and I wonder if the cable can get pinched in such a way that the computer freaks out; either that, or a particular drive model is susceptible to pressure. I have never seen the panic again once Apple returned the PowerBook.




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  • Reply 1148 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cowerd

    This may be your problem (from Macintouch):



    Thanks. Actually, this is what is infamously known as the "AirPort Extreme seeting problem" (I actually just gave it that name). This happens when AE isn't seeted properly in its slot. The AE slot in the new PBs are within the battery compartment, right below the left palm-rest. The fix is to simply take AE out and re-seet it firmly. The problem has been documented in the Apple discussion boards.



    No, I think it's something else. And besides, when I went back to OSX 10.2.8, the kernel panics have gone away. It's either something software, or, if it IS hardware (like the memory), perhaps Panther is more stringent when it comes to RAM.
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  • Reply 1149 of 1176
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by rawhead

    Thanks. Actually, this is what is infamously known as the "AirPort Extreme seeting problem" (I actually just gave it that name). This happens when AE isn't seeted properly in its slot. The AE slot in the new PBs are within the battery compartment, right below the left palm-rest. The fix is to simply take AE out and re-seet it firmly. The problem has been documented in the Apple discussion boards.



    No, I think it's something else. And besides, when I went back to OSX 10.2.8, the kernel panics have gone away. It's either something software, or, if it IS hardware (like the memory), perhaps Panther is more stringent when it comes to RAM.




    It's spelled "seating".
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  • Reply 1150 of 1176
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Keda

    sorry to get off topic, but...



    Holy 5hit!!!



    I have a possessed G3 here and had totally forgotten about GuagePro. I just booted into 9 and ran it...its reporting bad RAM.



    Now, how do I isolate which one it is?




    Spiffy, huh?



    Well, it should *tell* you which addresses are bad. From there you can tell which one it is based on the ordering of the DIMMs in the slots, and...



    Oh heck, just post the addresses here.
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  • Reply 1151 of 1176
    kedakeda Posts: 722member
    Cool.



    I'm taking my GMAT 2moro, so I won't be at work. I'll post on thurs.



    BTW, the app kept giving errors...one after another.
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  • Reply 1152 of 1176
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Yup, it'll report each bad section of RAM, and they generally fail in large chunks (as in an individual chip on the DIMM).



    Just post the first address in each contiguous block of addresses.



    Oh, and what size DIMMs you have, in what order.
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  • Reply 1153 of 1176
    Well I just learned that somehow someone got the retail version of Panther already here and he says that the build on the CD is 7B85. I have 7B85 from a source I'd rather not mention and I run great.



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  • Reply 1154 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Proud iBook Owner 2k2

    I have 7B85 from a source I'd rather not mention and I run great.







    Ditto.
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  • Reply 1155 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jasoco

    Ditto.



    ROCK ON BROTHA!
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  • Reply 1156 of 1176
    200000 views!



    Anyway, back to the thread...
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  • Reply 1157 of 1176
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    So, on the idea that there has been 20,000 views....



    is this really about the Builds of Panfer (doesn't Jobs pronounce the cats in a weird way?!) anymore?



    I dont caer, but I was expecting some iamges





    show me the IMagcies!





    the IMAGES!!!!! \
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  • Reply 1158 of 1176
    Hey cowerd,



    It did turn out to be the RAM. I took it out, no more kernel panics. I'm getting it replaced pronto.Thanks.
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  • Reply 1159 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Nebagakid

    So, on the idea that there has been 20,000 views....



    is this really about the Builds of Panfer (doesn't Jobs pronounce the cats in a weird way?!) anymore?



    I dont caer, but I was expecting some iamges





    show me the IMagcies!





    the IMAGES!!!!!




    Who needs images when you got the real deal?
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  • Reply 1160 of 1176
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    Don't know....



    But I really found that after installing Panther on my brother's 533MHz G4 tower (Codename Porn Lover?)....Boots, opening files, launching apps FASTER than my Dual GHZ SlowSilver? which still runs Jaguar!



    I just did the straight upgrade, didn't bother the archive install or erase install.
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