Upcoming Widescreen Desktop Displays From Apple
Reply 61 of 100
January 27, 2003 4:01PM
[quote]Originally posted by RosettaStoned:
Rosetta, perhaps you should quit getting so stoned?
And thanks for upping the signal to noise ratio... or did I get that wrong!?
Reply 62 of 100
January 27, 2003 4:11PM
Sarcasm? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Reply 63 of 100
January 27, 2003 7:49PM
Not to jump back on topic but I gotta agree that Apple's current displays are a horrible deal. Sure they look great next to a G4, but when you look at price, warranty, and brightness, they are trailing in all three areas. I know Viewsonic, Sony, and NEC all make 17" diaplays in the $500-$700 range that have 3 year warranty (1 year for Apple is pathetic) and also have brightness and contrast ratios far better than anything Apple is offering. Looks aside, Apple display's dont seem to have any competitive edge.
Reply 64 of 100
January 27, 2003 9:22PM
And you forgot Apple's absolutely horrid policy regarding dead pixels. If they're spread around the screen, Apple flatly refuses to replace a screen with as many as ten, TEN! That's plainly unacceptable. Formac will replace any of it's panels if they have as few as two, TWO dead or stuck pixels anywhere on the display and they change it for you.
[ 01-27-2003: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
Reply 65 of 100
January 27, 2003 9:44PM
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>And you forgot Apple's absolutely horrid policy regarding dead pixels. If they're spread around the screen, Apple flatly refuses to replace a screen with as many as ten, TEN! That's plainly unacceptable. Formac will replace any of it's panels if they have as few as two, TWO dead or stuck pixels anywhere on the display and they change it for you.
[ 01-27-2003: Message edited by: Matsu ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Wow guess I never realized that their limit was 10 or more. Most are 2-3, with 3 being the norm from most manufacturers. Good to know.
Reply 66 of 100
January 27, 2003 9:52PM
Apple WILL change a display with fewer than ten, but they have to be within a limited square area.
Reply 67 of 100
January 27, 2003 10:00PM
[quote]Originally posted by Clive:
Can a moose read, or make sense?
Basically you take your choice, if you have to have Apple branding all over your kit, then go for it. But IMO the 22" Apple display is neither value for money nor cutting edge - any more.
Once upon a time it was, but that was around two years ago.</strong><hr></blockquote>
...mmmm, that would be a wrong answer, logic king
. The answer is d) electricity.
I don't dispute the point you are TRYING to make. I actually agree with you. I even put my money where your mouth is. I too refused to buy ADC. I also think its fargin retarded and limits Apple's market to just Apple users. Hello? 97% of the market is NOT Apple! Aim for a larger market, Cupertino Boys. Then you won't have to charge me $99 for .Mac to make up for your revenue shortfall.
But your attempt to create a meaningful analogy fell well short of the mark. I just thought I'd be a smartass and point that out.
Reply 68 of 100
January 27, 2003 10:32PM
I am sorry but Apple makes damn fine displays. Whether or not the price is reasonable is probably not a question though. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Maybe soon that will change...updates/price drops must come sooner or later.
I think Apple's problem is when they first release something it is competitive but they dont revise things quickly enough. Especially on the iMac and PowerMac.
Reply 69 of 100
January 27, 2003 11:08PM
Yea I hear ya on the pixels, I have 1 stuck pixel and about a centemeter away there are 2 maybe 3 in a clump.
Can you say annoying? Although if 1 more appears it will look like a little green Orion's Belt on my screen.
Reply 70 of 100
January 28, 2003 12:35AM
Let's not use forum threads to have a back and forth discussion, especially about something that has nothing to do with future Apple Hardware.
Apple's displays are way overpriced and resellers have been complaining for quite a while, that's where all the rebates came from. Apple pushes resellers HARD especially Specialists about making sure there is a monitor for every Power Mac sold. Resellers bitched about the prices so then you have rebates.
If the prices I am hearing about the upcoming monitors are true, then I do not think Apple is listening to its resellers and that is unfortunate (even though they have specifically told resellers that the next revision will be priced competitively).
Reply 71 of 100
January 28, 2003 9:39AM
Ok, *vindication* today.
Apple's new 20" at $1,300 is value for money and does represent competition in the marketplace.
Not only that but it's actually higher resolution than the 22" it replaces, at almost 50% discount.
Mooseman - you're just getting too involved with the analogy. Mine was just an off the cuff remark about branding, which is what others were discussing - not power sources.
If you want to get really logical about it we'd say that the analogy was entirely false anyway because computers aren't cars, right?
Reply 72 of 100
January 28, 2003 11:11AM
WOO-HOO!!! OMG, Damn you Apple! I ask for a well-priced 20" LCD display and you deliver, and then tempt me by lowering the HD Cinema Display to $1999!!! DAMN YOU!!!!
The fantastic new 20", 1680x1050!!!
Thank you, Apple!
Reply 73 of 100
January 28, 2003 11:18AM
I can't believe those prices. I can't. I'm too shocked to even evaluate how low they are. I have the cinema display and paid $2500 for it. That's the day it was lowered from $3500. So, now i can get a HD, greater rez and another inch for $500 less!?!?!?
Damn. As robbed as I feel, I'm so happy Apple is making their prices more competitive. Although some here will still find something to bitch about, I for one, am greatly and pleasantly surprised at the enw prices.
Matsu-How's the new 20" display stack up now?
Reply 74 of 100
January 28, 2003 11:30AM
These are lower than what I was told, very very good move for Apple.
Reply 75 of 100
January 28, 2003 11:50AM
So what will occupy the $4000 price slot <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
32 inch Apple Cinema Display, please Mr. Jobs
Reply 76 of 100
January 28, 2003 11:55AM
looks like matsu's original post was on target
Reply 77 of 100
January 28, 2003 11:59AM
Well, no new form factor or VESA mounting... but DAMN, those prices are tempting. Apple should sell a lot of those 23" 'ers. That's the best price for an HD monitor anywhere at the moment.
Reply 78 of 100
January 28, 2003 12:03PM
I have one concern thou. I have a Cube with a Radeon card and by looking at the requirements it looks like you have to have at least a Radeon 7500 or GeForce2MX to drive the new 20.1" monitor. This monitor is perfect for me but why can't I drive it with my Radeon card? Doesn't it support that widescreen resolution or what? It has 32MB of memory on the card so that shouldn't be the problem. It seems like I have to buy a new graphics card to be able to use this monitor
Reply 79 of 100
January 28, 2003 1:47PM
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Reply 80 of 100
lemon bon bon
January 28, 2003 2:40PM
I was amazed by the total revamp to the laptop line in terms of spec and pricing. Really competitive to the Wintel world.
A pleasant surprise to see the 'new' 'power'Macs out today. Great to see the improvement to the 'power'Mac pricing... and that they took my advice for a single gigger at a lower price...
But the monitor release just blows it out the water. Amazing price cuts. Way to go Apple!
This is more like it. (I'm dying to see how far the price cuts go on the iMac2s. I'm looking for two models under the K bracket and two just over.)
And...and...it's still only Jan'. I wonder. Can they keep up the momentum?
Lemon Bon Bon <img src="confused.gif" border="0">