I heard that the water quality has to be approved by the EPA first before people are given the go ahead to use it. So it's possible that you technically do have running water in your area, but maybe it has been shut-off to you anyways as a safety measure until the EPA issue is satisfied? I don't have anything to explain how some apts in a building have it and some don't, though. Maybe somebody just hates you?
Sorry to hear you are w/o water, just the same. I know from personal experience how much that can suck when you really, really want to/need to take a shower. Maybe break out the WetWipes for a "dry shower", in the meantime?
Anybody ever wonder why WetWipes make your hands have a "stickiness" to them. It's supposed to be cleaning off dirt, right? So why is the end result stickiness?...
water, overnight, returned to my apt. i heard on the news that its not safe to drink for 2 days, but we can boil it and drink it. i just got out of what can only loosely be called a shower. there's no heat at all to the water. the temperature is somewhere around absolute zero kelvin. i think i lost my penis. the water also doesn't come out smoothly; it shoots in odd patterns for a while, then comes out with some regularity. it's off-color and kind of scary. when will this fvcking shit end!
OMG you're such a cry baby. A bad ice storm in VIrginia took my power out for a full week. You couldn't even buy a two litter bottle of coke in the stores. The water was out for 36 hours but once it was back on you couldn't drink and we couldn't boil it on our electric stove. It was winter and our electric heat wasn't working. Lucky for me the campus still had power.
The only thing we really learned from this is that NYC needs a way to evacuate commuters back to their home towns if this happens again.
we were out for 24 hours in a detroit suburb. my wife and i were in the thrid floor of Marshall Fields when it went out. it was pitch black except you could see a little light on the cash register. we had to get a cell phone out to illuminate the way to the escalator until they came with flashlights to walk us down
I think you need the juice to do that. Note all the store videos of would be thieves smashing registers on the floor to open them. So even with power it's hard to do.
My first though was to grab all the DKNY dress shirts I could carry. Now how do you know which ones are 17-33 in the dark?
OMG you're such a cry baby. A bad ice storm in VIrginia took my power out for a full week. You couldn't even buy a two litter bottle of coke in the stores. The water was out for 36 hours but once it was back on you couldn't drink and we couldn't boil it on our electric stove. It was winter and our electric heat wasn't working. Lucky for me the campus still had power.
The only thing we really learned from this is that NYC needs a way to evacuate commuters back to their home towns if this happens again.
Same here we had an ice storm in April of 2003. No power, though, the water was ok.
I read my email from work and 4 of the 5 linear accelerators are on back up power to keep the vacuum up. I'm sure they have juice by now. Let's hope we're up by Monday morning.
The Province of Ontario will sooner buy power from Quebec than blackout again.
By the way, the only reason Ontario is taking so long to get back to normal is because it takes a lot longer to startup a nuclear reactor than a coal plant. And Ontario has a big majority of these things feeding the market.
yes you do... otherwise you overload the plant with requests for power...
Just a speculaton ... not to be taken as absolute fact:
That is true from the electrical generation side. On the reactor side, you don't want to run the reactor just to power internal loads. First there is the extra fuel consumption. I doubt that the plants are designed with small generators for in-house loads and large ones for the commercial loads. Second, I would guess it is undesirable to run the reactor at no load because the electrical load is used as feedback to control the reactor power output. During the period of high power output, the reactor is producing fission products which "absorb" neutrons and during a long running standby period, the operators would have to continually withdraw the control rods. There is a limited amount of travel for the control rods. Also if the reactor is shut down, those fission products do not decay immediately, so the subsequent startup is more difficult because the control rods have to be withdrawn higher. Since a higher neutron flux is required to start up the reactor, it is harder to monitor the reactor and judge when the reactor is critical, so it is a slower process to start up the reactor under those conditions (for safety reasons). In fact, if the reactor fuel load is old enough, it is not possible to start up the reactor without waiting for those fission products to decay.
I might be able to provide a little more insight if anyone is really interested; otherwise, it has been a long time since I have done such things and I would have to do some research to give a good answer.
Edit: For more information, I found a good article using Google and the search phrase "xenon precluded startup".
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Originally posted by Randycat99
I heard that the water quality has to be approved by the EPA first before people are given the go ahead to use it. So it's possible that you technically do have running water in your area, but maybe it has been shut-off to you anyways as a safety measure until the EPA issue is satisfied? I don't have anything to explain how some apts in a building have it and some don't, though. Maybe somebody just hates you?
Sorry to hear you are w/o water, just the same. I know from personal experience how much that can suck when you really, really want to/need to take a shower. Maybe break out the WetWipes for a "dry shower", in the meantime?
Anybody ever wonder why WetWipes make your hands have a "stickiness" to them. It's supposed to be cleaning off dirt, right? So why is the end result stickiness?...
water, overnight, returned to my apt. i heard on the news that its not safe to drink for 2 days, but we can boil it and drink it. i just got out of what can only loosely be called a shower. there's no heat at all to the water. the temperature is somewhere around absolute zero kelvin. i think i lost my penis. the water also doesn't come out smoothly; it shoots in odd patterns for a while, then comes out with some regularity. it's off-color and kind of scary. when will this fvcking shit end!
The only thing we really learned from this is that NYC needs a way to evacuate commuters back to their home towns if this happens again.
My first though was to grab all the DKNY dress shirts I could carry. Now how do you know which ones are 17-33 in the dark?
Originally posted by Scott
OMG you're such a cry baby. A bad ice storm in VIrginia took my power out for a full week. You couldn't even buy a two litter bottle of coke in the stores. The water was out for 36 hours but once it was back on you couldn't drink and we couldn't boil it on our electric stove. It was winter and our electric heat wasn't working. Lucky for me the campus still had power.
The only thing we really learned from this is that NYC needs a way to evacuate commuters back to their home towns if this happens again.
Same here we had an ice storm in April of 2003. No power, though, the water was ok.
Originally posted by Scott
No emergency lights huh? That's odd.
nope
Originally posted by bunge
Is this just some B.S.?
What's up with the IP address?
Originally posted by Outsider
What's up with the IP address?
The article was framed and the IP/html address is of just the main frame.
Originally posted by Longhorn
Probably is BS
I was out of town while the whole blackout thing happened so I didn't follow it at all. I do wonder though, if it could have been intentional.
By the way, the only reason Ontario is taking so long to get back to normal is because it takes a lot longer to startup a nuclear reactor than a coal plant. And Ontario has a big majority of these things feeding the market.
Originally posted by Scott
I doubt that's the reason. You don't shut down the nuke plant because the gride goes down.
yes you do... otherwise you overload the plant with requests for power...
Originally posted by Paul
yes you do... otherwise you overload the plant with requests for power...
Just a speculaton ... not to be taken as absolute fact:
That is true from the electrical generation side. On the reactor side, you don't want to run the reactor just to power internal loads. First there is the extra fuel consumption. I doubt that the plants are designed with small generators for in-house loads and large ones for the commercial loads. Second, I would guess it is undesirable to run the reactor at no load because the electrical load is used as feedback to control the reactor power output. During the period of high power output, the reactor is producing fission products which "absorb" neutrons and during a long running standby period, the operators would have to continually withdraw the control rods. There is a limited amount of travel for the control rods. Also if the reactor is shut down, those fission products do not decay immediately, so the subsequent startup is more difficult because the control rods have to be withdrawn higher. Since a higher neutron flux is required to start up the reactor, it is harder to monitor the reactor and judge when the reactor is critical, so it is a slower process to start up the reactor under those conditions (for safety reasons). In fact, if the reactor fuel load is old enough, it is not possible to start up the reactor without waiting for those fission products to decay.
I might be able to provide a little more insight if anyone is really interested; otherwise, it has been a long time since I have done such things and I would have to do some research to give a good answer.
Edit: For more information, I found a good article using Google and the search phrase "xenon precluded startup".