So it seems like a lot of people think that AO have gone downhill in the last couple of monthsand have become a shithole. I can´t really tell the difference but probably its just me who are growing thicker skin.
But what can we do to make AO better? If it is going to be better only the users can do it.
So any idea how we could up the standarts here. Please discuss but please don´t use real AO examples because as you know it will end up in a discussion about members instead of the principles.
Return to the recent forum split where one can call each other names, and the other one where people are actually civil
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen. Try to see beyond the anger and investigate if there is an idea worth understanding, addressing, and/or disputing in the post. Try to ignore the insults and see the ideas, if they are there.
I am far more worried about the quality of the ideas. And I think that by this measure, AO is actually a pretty good forum, as computer forums go.
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen. Try to see beyond the anger and investigate if there is an idea worth understanding, addressing, and/or disputing in the post. Try to ignore the insults and see the ideas, if they are there.
I am far more worried about the quality of the ideas. And I think that by this measure, AO is actually a pretty good forum, as computer forums go.
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen.
Even moreso since some members become particularly eloquent in their anger, making fisticuffs a very enjoyable pastime here at AO.
And you know this because? I don't remember you posting in Fireside Chat?
Can you believe this..3rd Power outage in as many weeks..Just when was posting a reply ..
Der Kopf ...I had another name...." A.......D "
I never posted in chat..just visited & read....regularly...too regularly....Then I got swallowed up by a giant legal / accident battle....re car accident..hospital, operations etc etc.
Lots of bad bad stuff...
After all that finished I decided on a fresh start..with Ai
given that I not only was I unhappy with my handle..( it sounded so corny ) I also happened to lose ( couldn't remember ) my dammed password...in the interim...so I couldn't be bothered with it anymore...
But if your interested..I'll give you a clue to my name..it has to do with a certain fruit company...& something you find in that type of fruit.....& I became an Ai member April 2002...
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen.
At this point, seems that a fair number of posters are simply baiting and instigating. The topics and ideas never change, they're just an excuse to go after other instigators. Anger doesn't "just happen" here.
At this point, seems that a fair number of posters are simply baiting and instigating. The topics and ideas never change, they're just an excuse to go after other instigators. Anger doesn't "just happen" here.
Maybe we should take their Macs away from them and force them out into the cruel PeeCee world for a bit...
I never posted in chat..just visited & read....regularly...too regularly....Then I got swallowed up by a giant legal / accident battle....re car accident..hospital, operations etc etc.
But if your interested..I'll give you a clue to my name..it has to do with a certain fruit company...& something you find in that type of fruit.....& I became an Ai member April 2002...
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Originally posted by Anders
So it seems like a lot of people think that AO have gone downhill in the last couple of monthsand have become a shithole. I can´t really tell the difference but probably its just me who are growing thicker skin.
But what can we do to make AO better? If it is going to be better only the users can do it.
So any idea how we could up the standarts here. Please discuss but please don´t use real AO examples because as you know it will end up in a discussion about members instead of the principles.
Return to the recent forum split where one can call each other names, and the other one where people are actually civil
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen. Try to see beyond the anger and investigate if there is an idea worth understanding, addressing, and/or disputing in the post. Try to ignore the insults and see the ideas, if they are there.
I am far more worried about the quality of the ideas. And I think that by this measure, AO is actually a pretty good forum, as computer forums go.
Originally posted by Chinney
AO is fine.
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen. Try to see beyond the anger and investigate if there is an idea worth understanding, addressing, and/or disputing in the post. Try to ignore the insults and see the ideas, if they are there.
I am far more worried about the quality of the ideas. And I think that by this measure, AO is actually a pretty good forum, as computer forums go.
indeed
Originally posted by Chinney
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen.
Even moreso since some members become particularly eloquent in their anger, making fisticuffs a very enjoyable pastime here at AO.
" Basically, political discussions or any hot-button issues were for Fireside Chat ...................
Actually I really don't know why they closed it. Because it was too hard to moderate? "
It was closed because it was bringing Ai into disrepute..Besides which..Fireside chats went out with Clinton...
Originally posted by Aquafire
It was closed because it was bringing Ai into disrepute..Besides which..Fireside chats went out with Clinton...
And you know this because? I don't remember you posting in Fireside Chat?
Originally posted by der Kopf
And you know this because? I don't remember you posting in Fireside Chat?
Can you believe this..3rd Power outage in as many weeks..Just when was posting a reply ..
Der Kopf ...I had another name...." A.......D "
I never posted in chat..just visited & read....regularly...too regularly....Then I got swallowed up by a giant legal / accident battle....re car accident..hospital, operations etc etc.
Lots of bad bad stuff...
After all that finished I decided on a fresh start..with Ai
given that I not only was I unhappy with my handle..( it sounded so corny ) I also happened to lose ( couldn't remember ) my dammed password...in the interim...so I couldn't be bothered with it anymore...
But if your interested..I'll give you a clue to my name..it has to do with a certain fruit company...& something you find in that type of fruit.....& I became an Ai member April 2002...
Cheers Aqua
Originally posted by Chinney
While we all need to avoid making personal attacks, we also need to give some leeway to other people's posts. By this I mean that we have to understand that anger will happen.
At this point, seems that a fair number of posters are simply baiting and instigating. The topics and ideas never change, they're just an excuse to go after other instigators. Anger doesn't "just happen" here.
Originally posted by BuonRotto
At this point, seems that a fair number of posters are simply baiting and instigating. The topics and ideas never change, they're just an excuse to go after other instigators. Anger doesn't "just happen" here.
Maybe we should take their Macs away from them and force them out into the cruel PeeCee world for a bit...
Kinda let them cool their heels...
Originally posted by Aquafire
Maybe we should take their Macs away from them and force them out into the cruel PeeCee world for a bit...
Kinda let them cool their heels...
You think taking my Mac and making me use a PC would cool me off?
It would make most of us more pissed off than ever.
However the PC's could get viruses and then that would really "cool off"/END most discussion in AppleOutsider.
Nick
Originally posted by Aquafire
I never posted in chat..just visited & read....regularly...too regularly....Then I got swallowed up by a giant legal / accident battle....re car accident..hospital, operations etc etc.
Lots of bad bad stuff...
I did not know that.
Originally posted by murbot
I love reading the personal attacks. I swear, if the assholes in here start with a Lovey Huggy thing I'm going to start a riot. Keep the hate.
I love you.
Originally posted by giant
I love you.
Thou maketh me pyook.
Originally posted by murbot
I love reading the personal attacks. I swear, if the assholes in here start with a Lovey Huggy thing I'm going to start a riot. Keep the hate.
Does a reach around count as a lovey huggy thing?
Nick
Originally posted by Aquafire
But if your interested..I'll give you a clue to my name..it has to do with a certain fruit company...& something you find in that type of fruit.....& I became an Ai member April 2002...
AppleSeed?
Originally posted by der Kopf
AppleSeed?
Aquafire is a much better name. AppleSeed is a little...fruity
I like aquafire. powerful and colorful. It's kind of got a little Hayao Miyazaki ring to it
Originally posted by der Kopf
AppleSeed?
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