Got into an argument with a British commander about wanting to stop some russians from taking the Pristina airfield??? (I remember the right being pissed we didn't do something about that)
Worked for Clinton? (Happened to have a comprehensive plan to fight terrorism... presented to the Bush administration... and was ignored)
Was responsible for Waco? (I really hope they beat this drum alot... it'll make them look like loons... except to members of militias and the christian coalition.)
Only those on the farthest right will think any of that tripe matters. I really hope the Republican's go dirty as soon as possible... it'll only make them look like hypocrits who will say anything and try to slander anyone to get elected.
Curious question. Why does the South always determine who the next president of the United States is going to be?
I'd hazard a guess that the South contains the most swing states while the others lean one way or the other. All Gore had to do is win one of them and he would have won.
By the way, "the South" refers to some 19th century geographical landscape of the USA while states East and South of Mississippi river is "the South", Ohio is centered in "the MidWest", and Texas, Oklahoma, etc, would be considered the "the West". Since Texas is the "West", is California "the far West"?
I will take this moment to pat myself on the back since I said way back in 2002 that Clark would be the Dems best candidate. Well, lots of mud to be thrown before the Dem nom is put forward, so maybe I should hold off. 8)
Yup... keep watching Fox and get fed exactly what you want to hear. The wars goin' great. The economy is getting better... really. No Child will be left behind...
I miss "slimey" Bill... balanced budgets... millions of new jobs... the Patriots winning the superbowl... Hypocritcal self-righteous "moral" republicans imploding (too many to even mention)... the good ole days.
A recent Poll said 41% of americans intend to vote against Bush... and 29% for him. I guess you should enjoy these great times while you can. How did that tax break work for ya? Did you get the "average" $1000? Or were you part of the 31% who didn't get anything?
Curious question. Why does the South always determine who the next president of the United States is going to be?
because they always vote. well, it seems that way. they don't seem to be nearly as cynical and apathetic about voting as their northern brothers and sisters. is it a generalization? sure. but it also tends to be true more often than not.
not sure about the western states. i would bet that they get fed "and so-and-so has already won, so don't bother voting" broadcasts when they wake up or go to lunch, so voting over there seems less urgent. that's why i think exit polling shoud be outlawed. go vote. screw the networks and their ratings. wake up the next morning, give everyone plenty of time to count the votes, and find out who won the next morning. seems simple to me. which mans no one will ever go for it.
well actually the south is important because of electoral votes... the west is lean in electoral votes... the northeast is small except for NY... the south has the largest concentration of electoral votes... and southerners like to vote for southerners... that's why the wisdom is that the candidate should be from the south and preferrably a governor... Congressmen might be seen as too inside the beltway.
Plus besides the Bible belt... the south can be very moderate... almost independant.
Yup... keep watching Fox and get fed exactly what you want to hear. The wars goin' great. The economy is getting better... really. No Child will be left behind...
Well, its the only Conservative news channel.
Everything else on my cable service is liberal.
You can't deny it. Hell, how about the TV show "The Left Wing", err "The West Wing"?
I miss "slimey" Bill... balanced budgets... millions of new jobs... the Patriots winning the superbowl... Hypocritcal self-righteous "moral" republicans imploding (too many to even mention)... the good ole days.
Yeah, Enron, et al.
All the book cooking occured during the "flying high" days of Bill Clinton. No wonder why corporate America was doing "so well".
Not to mention things started to sag right at the end of his illustrious watch.
Yup... keep watching Fox and get fed exactly what you want to hear. The wars goin' great. The economy is getting better... really. No Child will be left behind...
...
Do you actually ever bother to watch Fox? The hard news shows report on the warts of the war. The talking heads on the op-ed shows can say what they want. But it seems to me that you are displaying a level of chosen ignorance here. Do you prefer the "fail and balanced" reporting of an Anampour or an Arnett?
Do you actually ever bother to watch Fox? The hard news shows report on the warts of the war. The talking heads on the op-ed shows can say what they want. But it seems to me that you are displaying a level of chosen ignorance here. Do you prefer the "fail and balanced" reporting of an Anampour or an Arnett?
No, that's wrong.
Fox News blurs the line between reporting and commentary. That's fact. So you can't go around legitimizing the reporting while delegitimizing the commentary because it's so intertwined. The reporting isn't exactly top-notch either. In fact, I suggest that it's biased as well.
So, no, I don't really see any aspect of Fox News that is "fair and balanced." (Even Hannity & Colmes is a "fair and balanced" farce!)
I wish Fox News would just come out and say it's conservative.
Fox News blurs the line between reporting and commentary. That's fact. So you can't go around legitimizing the reporting while delegitimizing the commentary because it's so intertwined. The reporting isn't exactly top-notch either. In fact, I suggest that it's biased as well.
So, no, I don't really see any aspect of Fox News that is "fair and balanced." (Even Hannity & Colmes is a "fair and balanced" farce!)
I wish Fox News would just come out and say it's conservative.
Tis ShawnJ, Fox News expert!
Display for us your many, many studies, reports, hell even anecdotal information about Fox News...
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Got into an argument with a British commander about wanting to stop some russians from taking the Pristina airfield??? (I remember the right being pissed we didn't do something about that)
Worked for Clinton? (Happened to have a comprehensive plan to fight terrorism... presented to the Bush administration... and was ignored)
Was responsible for Waco? (I really hope they beat this drum alot... it'll make them look like loons... except to members of militias and the christian coalition.)
Only those on the farthest right will think any of that tripe matters. I really hope the Republican's go dirty as soon as possible... it'll only make them look like hypocrits who will say anything and try to slander anyone to get elected.
Originally posted by Northgate
Curious question. Why does the South always determine who the next president of the United States is going to be?
I'd hazard a guess that the South contains the most swing states while the others lean one way or the other. All Gore had to do is win one of them and he would have won.
By the way, "the South" refers to some 19th century geographical landscape of the USA while states East and South of Mississippi river is "the South", Ohio is centered in "the MidWest", and Texas, Oklahoma, etc, would be considered the "the West". Since Texas is the "West", is California "the far West"?
I will take this moment to pat myself on the back since I said way back in 2002 that Clark would be the Dems best candidate.
Oh wait, this is it.
My mistake.
Maybe you all can invite Apple board member Al Gore to get in on these procedings. Steve could tag along too if he wants.
I'm amazed at the negative furvor being drummed up by the conservative media.
I guess you are not amazed when it goes the other way eh?
I don't want a "perfumed" president.
Originally posted by msantti
Maybe a "Liberals only" board can be created.
Oh wait, this is it.
Originally posted by msantti
I don't want a "perfumed" president.
Then vote democratic to get rid of our currently "perfumed" White House resident.
Not good unless I am "getting some' I guess.
Look forward to the Clarke thrashing anyways.
*makes mental note to turn on Fox News*
Fair, balanced, and unafraid.
I miss "slimey" Bill... balanced budgets... millions of new jobs... the Patriots winning the superbowl... Hypocritcal self-righteous "moral" republicans imploding (too many to even mention)... the good ole days.
A recent Poll said 41% of americans intend to vote against Bush... and 29% for him. I guess you should enjoy these great times while you can. How did that tax break work for ya? Did you get the "average" $1000? Or were you part of the 31% who didn't get anything?
Originally posted by Northgate
Curious question. Why does the South always determine who the next president of the United States is going to be?
because they always vote. well, it seems that way. they don't seem to be nearly as cynical and apathetic about voting as their northern brothers and sisters. is it a generalization? sure. but it also tends to be true more often than not.
not sure about the western states. i would bet that they get fed "and so-and-so has already won, so don't bother voting" broadcasts when they wake up or go to lunch, so voting over there seems less urgent. that's why i think exit polling shoud be outlawed. go vote. screw the networks and their ratings. wake up the next morning, give everyone plenty of time to count the votes, and find out who won the next morning. seems simple to me. which mans no one will ever go for it.
Plus besides the Bible belt... the south can be very moderate... almost independant.
Yup... keep watching Fox and get fed exactly what you want to hear. The wars goin' great. The economy is getting better... really. No Child will be left behind...
Well, its the only Conservative news channel.
Everything else on my cable service is liberal.
You can't deny it. Hell, how about the TV show "The Left Wing", err "The West Wing"?
Excuse me.
I miss "slimey" Bill... balanced budgets... millions of new jobs... the Patriots winning the superbowl... Hypocritcal self-righteous "moral" republicans imploding (too many to even mention)... the good ole days.
Yeah, Enron, et al.
All the book cooking occured during the "flying high" days of Bill Clinton. No wonder why corporate America was doing "so well".
Not to mention things started to sag right at the end of his illustrious watch.
9/11?
Began planning under slick Willies watch.
I know you don't want to hear that.
Originally posted by chu_bakka
Yup... keep watching Fox and get fed exactly what you want to hear. The wars goin' great. The economy is getting better... really. No Child will be left behind...
...
Do you actually ever bother to watch Fox? The hard news shows report on the warts of the war. The talking heads on the op-ed shows can say what they want. But it seems to me that you are displaying a level of chosen ignorance here. Do you prefer the "fail and balanced" reporting of an Anampour or an Arnett?
Originally posted by Scott
Do you actually ever bother to watch Fox? The hard news shows report on the warts of the war. The talking heads on the op-ed shows can say what they want. But it seems to me that you are displaying a level of chosen ignorance here. Do you prefer the "fail and balanced" reporting of an Anampour or an Arnett?
No, that's wrong.
Fox News blurs the line between reporting and commentary. That's fact. So you can't go around legitimizing the reporting while delegitimizing the commentary because it's so intertwined. The reporting isn't exactly top-notch either. In fact, I suggest that it's biased as well.
So, no, I don't really see any aspect of Fox News that is "fair and balanced." (Even Hannity & Colmes is a "fair and balanced" farce!)
I wish Fox News would just come out and say it's conservative.
Originally posted by ShawnJ
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I wish Fox News would just come out and say it's conservative.
I wish CNN, NYT, Wash' Post, LA Times, Miami Herald, every Boston news paper, every San Fran' news paper .... would come out and say it's liberal.
Originally posted by ShawnJ
No, that's wrong.
Fox News blurs the line between reporting and commentary. That's fact. So you can't go around legitimizing the reporting while delegitimizing the commentary because it's so intertwined. The reporting isn't exactly top-notch either. In fact, I suggest that it's biased as well.
So, no, I don't really see any aspect of Fox News that is "fair and balanced." (Even Hannity & Colmes is a "fair and balanced" farce!)
I wish Fox News would just come out and say it's conservative.
Tis ShawnJ, Fox News expert!
Display for us your many, many studies, reports, hell even anecdotal information about Fox News...
Please...
Nick
Originally posted by Scott
I wish CNN, NYT, Wash' Post, LA Times, Miami Herald, every Boston news paper, every San Fran' news paper .... would come out and say it's liberal.
But they're not. At least, not in the way they handled the pre, during and post war commentaries.
Originally posted by bunge
But they're not. At least, not in the way they handled the pre, during and post war commentaries.
I would have to disagree.
Nick