[Closed due to flaky BB] Next Powermac 970 with up to 2,5 GHZ ?

in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
IBM will show prototypes of PPC 970 servers with up to 2,5 GHz when they will be released. Until now I only knew about up to 1,8 GHz for the PPC970...

<a href="http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ciw-27.02.03-000/"; target="_blank">http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ciw-27.02.03-000/</a>;

[ 03-06-2003: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>


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    <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.heise.de/newsticker %2Fdata%2Fciw-27.02.03-000%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools" target="_blank">Google translation for the lazy</a>
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    <a href="http://www-5.ibm.com/de/pressroom/cebit2003/en/highlights/powerpcblade.html"; target="_blank">IBM's press release</a>.

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    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    This has some good implications. First it shows how IBM under promises and over delivers; a rarity in the tech world. Also the 970 yields much be great. I'm assuming that the bus on the 2.5GHz is 1.25GHz (625MHz DDR). Impressive to say the least. Unless they are going for an elaborate bus ratio scheme.
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    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Is that a 2.5 GHz PPC 970 in my pants or...
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    Damn!! Moki !! someonew was sandbanging!! <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" />
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    I know we all want duals, but at 2.5GHz wouls a single be fast enough?
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    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Originally posted by Derrick 61:

    <strong>I know we all want duals, but at 2.5GHz wouls a single be fast enough?</strong><hr></blockquote>

    A 1.8 GHz PPC970's SpecInt numbers are approximately equal to a 2.4 GHz P4 and it's SpecFP numbers are closer to a 2.8 GHz P4s, so I don't think I'd be complaining with just one...
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    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    [quote]Originally posted by Derrick 61:

    <strong>I know we all want duals, but at 2.5GHz wouls a single be fast enough?</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Hard to tell with out some concrete comparisons, but if the 970 had SMT... I would wager a singel 2.5GHz 970 would beat the pants off a dual 1.42GHz G4. But I don't think the 970 has SMT capabilities. But even without SMT, with the bus improvements, 2 FP units; it's too close to call.
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    we know the chip is out there, so what would the rest

    of the powermac look like?
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    costiquecostique Posts: 1,084member
    [quote]Originally posted by amarone:

    <strong><a href="http://www-5.ibm.com/de/pressroom/cebit2003/en/highlights/powerpcblade.html"; target="_blank">IBM's press release</a>.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I may be slow but it's the first time I officially see Altivec ? Vector/SIMD unit. I mean it's not simply Altivec-compatible, but Altivec?.

    So when is the party?!

    [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: costique ]</p>
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    drboardrboar Posts: 477member
    Are there any SPEC data for the G4 out there? Just for the fun of it I want to calculate the performance increase from a single G4/400 to a dual 2 GHz 970.

    If IBM is demoing the 970 with altivec in mid Mars is there anyone that Apple will wait until 2004 to use the 970? Or wait for the G5 or migrate to ADM <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

    Me think it is time to get higher frame rates in th FPS games in Mac than PC <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" />
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    I hope that Apple releases a dual 2.5ghz 970 for the "price-is-no-object" professionals. That would get apple some respect.
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    rhumgodrhumgod Posts: 1,289member
    [quote]Originally posted by costique:

    <strong>So when is the party?!</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Look for some mention around CeBIT or WWDC, unless Apple wants to hold it's own little party, ala iMac DV.
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    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    Whoa! Much better than I ever imagined! :eek:
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    costiquecostique Posts: 1,084member
    Programmer has a weird habit of hinting at 'things going well at IBM'. I hope we will not jump straight to 3GHz. In 2006.
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    709709 Posts: 2,016member
    Holy Crap?!!! If IBM is getting 1.8-2.5 Ghz on 0.13 microns....what would speeds likely be when they shrink to 0.09?
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    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    wow, this will spank pc's...it will be sick! :eek:

    2.5 is up there, thats almost 3GHz! (intel tops)

    perhaps PPC is healthy again
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    it's party time, boys.


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    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    If this is true, it's amazing. Steve was not kidding when he said we'd close the MHz gap. A 1.1GHz leap in clock speed accompanied by a much more significant leap in performance... wow. Just wow.

    Before you all get too excited, remember that IBM has its own purposes for these chips, and the yields might be low enough that far ahead of spec that there are only enough 2.5GHz 970s to appear in a pricey (by our standards) IBM server.

    If that's not the case, and IBM can offer 2.5GHz 970s in quantities that Apple can use and afford... PAAAAAARTY!

    [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
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    *l++*l++ Posts: 129member
    Given Fred Anderson latest words that Apple wants to increase market share from 3 to 5 percent, not short term profits. I don't believe that PPC970 based computers will carry a premium over today's range.

    The prices will be in line with the chip's cost. Given that Apple currently uses rare high speed tested chips for their top of the line, the 970 may actually come in cheaper.

    The complete bill of materials will decide the machine's cost. I believe the 970 based machines will be a relative bargain.
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