Oh look. America's getting rich out of Iraq.
Well who'd've thunk it?
I am Link. Quake before me.
Iraq may not yet be grown up enough yet to formulate a foreign policy of its own, but before domestic elections fought on issues of policy, Iraq sells all its nationalised industries, with the exception of the oil industry.
Congratulations Iraq. And congratulations American industrial giants. And a mighty big MOTHERFECK YOU to the naked ****ing greed of the people who're selling the assets of the Iraqi people without giving them a chance to decide what's in their own best interests.
Disgust.
I mean, discuss.
I am Link. Quake before me.
Iraq may not yet be grown up enough yet to formulate a foreign policy of its own, but before domestic elections fought on issues of policy, Iraq sells all its nationalised industries, with the exception of the oil industry.
Congratulations Iraq. And congratulations American industrial giants. And a mighty big MOTHERFECK YOU to the naked ****ing greed of the people who're selling the assets of the Iraqi people without giving them a chance to decide what's in their own best interests.
Disgust.
I mean, discuss.
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And it categorically must be done before a general election because then Iraqis might elect socialists, or decide that they want to sell citizen's bonds to their own people. But no. It's done now. The decision has been made, to describe it charitably, by a body whose members were chosen in Washington.
I guess I don't quite follow how the US could end up with all the spoils to the exclusion of everyone else. Particularly if all these sales are going to be made in the public eye, which they almost assuredly will be. Unless I'm not understand the process described by your article. Sort of a mile-high piece anyway.
Can you elaborate a bit?
Then how come I'm not seeing any of that money?!?!
Of course it is. With the prospect of UN members playing a role in cleaning up the godawful mess America and Britain have made, this has to be done now.
Stop, take a few steps back. And explain to me what you mean by this. Because as it reads you seem to be ignoring about 12 years of history as if they were merely incidental.
If we're forcing them to sell, why not sell their own companies to Iraqis only? And then a grace period of many years until they go on the open market?
Iraq rebuilt itself after the first Gulf War.
HURRY HURRY HURRY! Be the first in line to see history being rewritten! Wholesale prices!
Care to give me a rundown on the State of the Iraqi Populace pre&post-OperationIraqiLiberation?
Pre-war: Happyfun Sparkletown
Post-war: Rubbleville Babymilkfactory
Originally posted by groverat
Hassan:
Stop, take a few steps back. And explain to me what you mean by this. Because as it reads you seem to be ignoring about 12 years of history as if they were merely incidental.
It wasn't the UN that invaded Iraq expecting the army to form an orderly queue to surrender and to have tanks showered in flowers by grateful Iraqi citizens. That was us, and we did it without any serious plan of what to day after the collapse of the regime, and we've made a godawful mess of it.
But that's not the point. We've been through this sort of thing a dozen times. We're talking here about the privitisation of the services of an entire nation without consulting the people who actually own them, the citizens.
The point isn't whether or not the Iraqis even "know what's best for themselves" or not, it should be their choice. This is policy thought up in Washington the inevitable benefit of the companies allowed to make the bids. THE ONLY COMPANIES ALLOWED TO BID FOR RECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS WERE AMERICAN. Not even the British were allowed to bid, so don't pretend that this is even going to be a let-the-market-decide kind of affair, especially not with the fact the the Governing Council were all nominated by the State Department.
Bush, dammit!!!! Whats this...socialism?
I'm on fÜcking Kaiser (thieves)..and 40 million Americans have No insurance..
Oh, look who's rebuilding Iraq's bombed phone system...Worldcom!!!! The corporation that perpetrated the biggest accounts fraud in business history gets a no-bid contract worth $billions.
Originally posted by BuonRotto
"Oh look. America's getting rich out of Iraq."
Then how come I'm not seeing any of that money?!?!
Well. you are a taxpayer. You are one of us who have collectively shelled out $160 BILLION so far fight a bogus war to enrich corporations close to the Bush administration. That's $1000 per US taxpayer into the coffers of those parasites such as Bechtel, Carlyle, Halliburton, KBR, WorldCom, etc etc etc. What are they? Big Fat Corporate Welfare Queens....they are the ones raking in your hard earned cash. And mine. And the rest of us suckers.
Originally posted by 1337_5L4Xx0R
Rhetoric aside, is anyone surprised? I mean, Hassan, you are feigning shock, are you not?
Not shocked, exactly, but sort of... angry again.
But that's not the point.
Then why perpetuate the lie?
We've been through this sort of thing a dozen times. We're talking here about the privitisation of the services of an entire nation without consulting the people who actually own them, the citizens.
Considering their situation 6 months ago and my lack of knowledge about the future (which is quite unclear), I have a hard time being outraged on such a high-minded level.
The point isn't whether or not the Iraqis even "know what's best for themselves" or not, it should be their choice.
I agree, can they make a choice without a representative government?
THE ONLY COMPANIES ALLOWED TO BID FOR RECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS WERE AMERICAN.
Any contract paid for by the American taxpayer should go to an American company. These companies should employ mainly Iraqis with the idea that once our investment is paid off (or a plan it place for pay-off) the infrastructure is handed off to Iraq (private or public, whatever they decide).
I don't like no-bid contracts when not necessary, but I have no problem with American companies getting American taxpayer-funded contracts.