It's His will to blight my existence and my marriage? As I don't believe in Him but until now was polite to his followers , may i say **** you. You sir, are a git.
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I've had to take a lot of insensitive ,ignorant and hurtful remarks on the chin in my time but i responded to jukebox heroes post angrily, so i apologise if it broke the rules.
You lost me a bit here? Are you answering yes, it is a sin to have sex in either of the examples I mentioned (someone with indeterminate genitalia being "corrected" to the "wrong" sex or you after being forced to have a sex change operation)? It sounds like your saying yes it's still a sin even though someone else imposed this on them/you.
I am saying its a sin. So if crazy doctors try to take you, you should fight really hard.
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Clearly most birth defects fall under "God's will" so the indeterminate genitalia qualify. If you concede it's ok for an infertile couple to have sex then why is it not ok for those with indeterminate genetalia?
I guess it was god's will that several kids had seen enough of their grandparents.
"It was god's will, Johnny."
"What do you mean?"
"Well, god decided it was time to kill Grandma and Grandpa. You'll see them in 50 years though, as long as you don't use condoms."
Yes it was his will. God gives and God takes away. In this case the kids just got to go to the next stage of life a little early. What does this have to do with holes in condoms?
It's His will to blight my existence and my marriage? As I don't believe in Him but until now was polite to his followers , may i say **** you. You sir, are a git.
God did not make this life to be easy. If he did it would be. But you, sir, are a spoiled little baby. If you can't have it your way you have to wine and cry. Boo hoo.
Yes it was his will. God gives and God takes away. In this case the kids just got to go to the next stage of life a little early. What does this have to do with holes in condoms?
Its not like I'm forcing anybody to do anything. Everybody has free will to make their own choices. I'm an enemy of any man that tries to take away that right. You choose to live your life the way you choose. You want to use condoms or artificial incemination, I DON'T CARE. THATS YOUR CHOICE. I don't judge. I've been on all sides of the issues. I've just become convinced that Catholicism is the truth. So what? What does it have to do with you? Why are you people so interested in my personal choices? Why are you tring to say I don't have the right to my own choices? It doesn't even affect you. Arguing that supporting the Catholic Church is affecting you is completely irrational. People are going to be mean and biggoted and evil regardless of their religious/political/ethnic background. Kill Catholics and you'll just have someone else to blame and hate. Thats the way people are. I'm just trying to live my life the best way that I know how. But thanks to you all I have learned one thing. People are wierder and dumber than I ever thought possible. You've all convinced me to go buy a Gun.
I am saying its a sin. So if crazy doctors try to take you, you should fight really hard.
And with regards to people with indeterminate genitalia having sex...
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Good point. I'm guessing God would forgive you.
Now I'm really lost. In the first part you suggest that people with indeterminant genetalia who were improperly corrected cannot have sex without it being a sin. In the second part you suggest that it wouldn't be because God made them with indeterminate sex.
Since you also suggest that a forced sex change would prohibit you from having sex with your wife (without it being a sin) it would seem that you believe that man actually has the power to change one's true sexuality, by altering their physical appearance. Is this correct?
I assume that your ok with these same unfortunate people (the miscorrected people with indeterminate genitalia) undergoing further surgery to change their sex back to their "correct" sex?
And with regards to people with indeterminate genitalia having sex...
Now I'm really lost. In the first part you suggest that people with indeterminant genetalia who were improperly corrected cannot have sex without it being a sin. In the second part you suggest that it wouldn't be because God made them with indeterminate sex.
Since you also suggest that a forced sex change would prohibit you from having sex with your wife (without it being a sin) it would seem that you believe that man actually has the power to change one's true sexuality, by altering their physical appearance. Is this correct?
I assume that your ok with these same unfortunate people (the miscorrected people with indeterminate genitalia) undergoing further surgery to change their sex back to their "correct" sex?
Retard, I follow the church. But if you are asking me my opinion I believe that God would forgive. There is no incongruency between saying "I wouldn't do it" and saying "I can understand why someone would and don't personally see the problem."
Like when you got convinced about Catholicism - maybe the problem here is how easy you are convinced...
...at least guns kill less people though....
Dear flippant moron,
No. Stupid people kill people. The fact that some of them happen to be Catholic is irrelevent. People are stupid and evil, yourself included. Thats why you should pray to God.
God did not make this life to be easy. If he did it would be. But you, sir, are a spoiled little baby. If you can't have it your way you have to wine and cry. Boo hoo.
Wow, such compassion for your fellow man, I'm touched. Silly me, whining and crying when as I'm actually living God's will, i should be happy. You're my hero, the way you don't judge and all, it's so hard sometimes, isn't it?
Wow, such compassion for your fellow man, I'm touched. Silly me, whining and crying when as I'm actually living God's will, i should be happy. You're my hero, the way you don't judge and all, it's so hard sometimes, isn't it?
You treated me like shit, asshole. SO I treated you the same way. You clueless ****!
It doesn't even affect you. Arguing that supporting the Catholic Church is affecting you is completely irrational.
But it does. Unfortunately, the RC church has a lot of worldish power, else the whole discussion would not have taken place. Unfortunately too, it is known to abuse this power to coerce people who live according to a different set of rules. Supporting an unethical organization is unethical, that's all. (not to self: donate to some islamic fundamentalists)
But it does. Unfortunately, the RC church has a lot of worldish power, else the whole discussion would not have taken place. Unfortunately too, it is known to abuse this power to coerce people who live according to a different set of rules. Supporting an unethical organization is unethical, that's all. (not to self: donate to some islamic
fundamentalists)
Some people are untehical, not the organization. Get that through your thick, useless skull.
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Because people disagree with you?
I don't care until you try to take away my rights. Then I cry fowl.
He is right on the spot though: you did not show the least bit of compassion. All you did was reiterating "it's gods will".
I'm not perfect. Sometimes when people treat me bad, I give it back. It is Gods will though. Sometimes there is no easy way to give someone the bad new. I suppose in a world where nothing is right or wrong and you win a trial by having more money, details such as this get lost.
Some people are untehical, not the organization. Get that through your thick, useless skull.
The organization consists and is lead by people. You cannot separate one from the other. Even the RC church says their priests are humans that only convey the word from above. Consequencely, if the humans misbehave and noone inside the organization tries to stop them, the whole organization is at fault.
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I don't care until you try to take away my rights. Then I cry fowl.
The organization consists and is lead by people. You cannot separate one from the other. Even the RC church says their priests are humans that only convey the word from above. Consequencely, if the humans misbehave and noone inside the organization tries to stop them, the whole organization is at fault.
There is no evidence of a widespread conspiracy to commit crimes.
I did? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes. Your saying that I shouldn't have the right to be Catholic.
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Originally posted by Alex London
It's His will to blight my existence and my marriage? As I don't believe in Him but until now was polite to his followers , may i say **** you. You sir, are a git.
Legitimate or not, personal attacks are not allowed on these board.
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Originally posted by Nordstrodamus
You lost me a bit here? Are you answering yes, it is a sin to have sex in either of the examples I mentioned (someone with indeterminate genitalia being "corrected" to the "wrong" sex or you after being forced to have a sex change operation)? It sounds like your saying yes it's still a sin even though someone else imposed this on them/you.
I am saying its a sin. So if crazy doctors try to take you, you should fight really hard.
Clearly most birth defects fall under "God's will" so the indeterminate genitalia qualify. If you concede it's ok for an infertile couple to have sex then why is it not ok for those with indeterminate genetalia?
Good point. I'm guessing God would forgive you.
Originally posted by Harald
semantic
No, I meant the company.
Originally posted by murbot
Eight die in church bus crash in Louisiana
I guess it was god's will that several kids had seen enough of their grandparents.
"It was god's will, Johnny."
"What do you mean?"
"Well, god decided it was time to kill Grandma and Grandpa. You'll see them in 50 years though, as long as you don't use condoms."
Yes it was his will. God gives and God takes away. In this case the kids just got to go to the next stage of life a little early. What does this have to do with holes in condoms?
Originally posted by Alex London
It's His will to blight my existence and my marriage? As I don't believe in Him but until now was polite to his followers , may i say **** you. You sir, are a git.
God did not make this life to be easy. If he did it would be. But you, sir, are a spoiled little baby. If you can't have it your way you have to wine and cry. Boo hoo.
God did not make this life to be easy.
Again, Ra, the sun god, did not make this life easy....
You are starting to make him mad. Expect 90+ degree weather in your town today...
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
Yes it was his will. God gives and God takes away. In this case the kids just got to go to the next stage of life a little early. What does this have to do with holes in condoms?
Joke. Use condoms, go to hell.
Nevermind.
Keep On Trollin'
What is wrong with you people?
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
I am saying its a sin. So if crazy doctors try to take you, you should fight really hard.
And with regards to people with indeterminate genitalia having sex...
Good point. I'm guessing God would forgive you.
Now I'm really lost. In the first part you suggest that people with indeterminant genetalia who were improperly corrected cannot have sex without it being a sin. In the second part you suggest that it wouldn't be because God made them with indeterminate sex.
Since you also suggest that a forced sex change would prohibit you from having sex with your wife (without it being a sin) it would seem that you believe that man actually has the power to change one's true sexuality, by altering their physical appearance. Is this correct?
I assume that your ok with these same unfortunate people (the miscorrected people with indeterminate genitalia) undergoing further surgery to change their sex back to their "correct" sex?
Originally posted by Nordstrodamus
And with regards to people with indeterminate genitalia having sex...
Now I'm really lost. In the first part you suggest that people with indeterminant genetalia who were improperly corrected cannot have sex without it being a sin. In the second part you suggest that it wouldn't be because God made them with indeterminate sex.
Since you also suggest that a forced sex change would prohibit you from having sex with your wife (without it being a sin) it would seem that you believe that man actually has the power to change one's true sexuality, by altering their physical appearance. Is this correct?
I assume that your ok with these same unfortunate people (the miscorrected people with indeterminate genitalia) undergoing further surgery to change their sex back to their "correct" sex?
Retard, I follow the church. But if you are asking me my opinion I believe that God would forgive. There is no incongruency between saying "I wouldn't do it" and saying "I can understand why someone would and don't personally see the problem."
Originally posted by segovius
Like when you got convinced about Catholicism - maybe the problem here is how easy you are convinced...
...at least guns kill less people though....
Dear flippant moron,
No. Stupid people kill people. The fact that some of them happen to be Catholic is irrelevent. People are stupid and evil, yourself included. Thats why you should pray to God.
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
God did not make this life to be easy. If he did it would be. But you, sir, are a spoiled little baby. If you can't have it your way you have to wine and cry. Boo hoo.
Wow, such compassion for your fellow man, I'm touched. Silly me, whining and crying when as I'm actually living God's will, i should be happy. You're my hero, the way you don't judge and all, it's so hard sometimes, isn't it?
Originally posted by Alex London
Wow, such compassion for your fellow man, I'm touched. Silly me, whining and crying when as I'm actually living God's will, i should be happy. You're my hero, the way you don't judge and all, it's so hard sometimes, isn't it?
You treated me like shit, asshole. SO I treated you the same way. You clueless ****!
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
It doesn't even affect you. Arguing that supporting the Catholic Church is affecting you is completely irrational.
But it does. Unfortunately, the RC church has a lot of worldish power, else the whole discussion would not have taken place. Unfortunately too, it is known to abuse this power to coerce people who live according to a different set of rules. Supporting an unethical organization is unethical, that's all. (not to self: donate to some islamic fundamentalists)
You've all convinced me to go buy a Gun.
Because people disagree with you?
Originally posted by Smircle
But it does. Unfortunately, the RC church has a lot of worldish power, else the whole discussion would not have taken place. Unfortunately too, it is known to abuse this power to coerce people who live according to a different set of rules. Supporting an unethical organization is unethical, that's all. (not to self: donate to some islamic
fundamentalists)
Some people are untehical, not the organization. Get that through your thick, useless skull.
Because people disagree with you?
I don't care until you try to take away my rights. Then I cry fowl.
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
You treated me like shit, asshole. SO I treated you the same way. You clueless ****!
He is right on the spot though: you did not show the least bit of compassion. All you did was reiterating "it's gods will".
Originally posted by Smircle
He is right on the spot though: you did not show the least bit of compassion. All you did was reiterating "it's gods will".
I'm not perfect. Sometimes when people treat me bad, I give it back. It is Gods will though. Sometimes there is no easy way to give someone the bad new. I suppose in a world where nothing is right or wrong and you win a trial by having more money, details such as this get lost.
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
Some people are untehical, not the organization. Get that through your thick, useless skull.
The organization consists and is lead by people. You cannot separate one from the other. Even the RC church says their priests are humans that only convey the word from above. Consequencely, if the humans misbehave and noone inside the organization tries to stop them, the whole organization is at fault.
I don't care until you try to take away my rights. Then I cry fowl.
I did?
Originally posted by Smircle
The organization consists and is lead by people. You cannot separate one from the other. Even the RC church says their priests are humans that only convey the word from above. Consequencely, if the humans misbehave and noone inside the organization tries to stop them, the whole organization is at fault.
There is no evidence of a widespread conspiracy to commit crimes.
I did? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes. Your saying that I shouldn't have the right to be Catholic.