"Named for one of its designer's daughters, the Lisa was supposed to be the Next Big Thing. It was the first personal computer to use a Graphical User Interface. Aimed mainly at large businesses, Apple said the Lisa would increase productivity by making computers easier to work with. The Lisa had a Motorola 68000 Processor running at 5 Mhz, 1 MB of RAM two 5.25" 871k floppy drives, an external 5 MB hard drive, and a built in 12" 720 x 360 monochrome monitor. At $9,995 it was a plunge few businesses were willing to take. When the Macintosh came out in 1984 for significantly less money, it eroded the Lisa's credibility further. Realizing this, Apple released the Lisa 2 at the same time as the Mac. The Lisa 2 cost half as much as the original, replaced the two 5.25" drives with a single 400k 3.5" drive, and offered configurations with up to 2 MB of RAM, and a 10 MB hard drive. In January 1985, the Lisa 2/10 was renamed the Macintosh XL, and outfitted with MacWorks, an emulator that allowed the Lisa to run the Mac OS. The XL was discontinued later that year."
I am pretty sure that it was Steve's daughter, the one he denied was his... Lisa. Or at-least thats how it was in that movie.
I am pretty sure that it was Steve's daughter, the one he denied was his... Lisa. Or at-least thats how it was in that movie.
was i the only one who, when steve was talking about giving allowance checks vai the iTMS announcement, wanted him to say 'let's say i have a daughter named "Lisa." '
First Apple computer that I ever touched - at work at a summer student job - was a Lisa. I don't know enough about Mac history to know why it failed [but someone has filled that in a bit up above, I see now], but I did prefer it at the time to the primitive PCs that were also kicking around the office.
was i the only one who, when steve was talking about giving allowance checks vai the iTMS announcement, wanted him to say 'let's say i have a daughter named "Lisa." '
First Apple computer that I ever touched - at work at a summer student job - was a Lisa. I don't know enough about Mac history to know why it failed [but someone has filled that in a bit up above, I see now], but I did prefer it at the time to the primitive PCs that were also kicking around the office.
The short answer: The Lisa was way too expensive, and they marketed them as business machines which meant going against IBM at the time. There were lot of other issues: development costs, the Apple III, the Mac, IBM clones, proprietary and expensive components, and the project was nearly run aground by Jobs before he was moved on to the Mac project in order to salvage the Lisa (the Mac was basically R&D at that point, not expected to be a real product). That's just to name a few.
Jobs did learn to love a lot of the ideas and features the Lisa provided, and they showed up in NeXT and later in OS X when Apple left some of the Lisa's good ideas out to dry (they did bring in a lot of other stuff from the Lisa too). Stuff like sheets, the Dock, services, column view, the more unix-like guts, etc.
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Originally posted by Luca Rescigno
Maybe we should add Pippin to the list. Apple's expensive video game system.
This was real? I never knew that!
Originally posted by Splinemodel
Um. . . the eBook.
eMate, man!
Originally posted by Placebo
This was real? I never knew that!
Hell, I still have a MacWarehouse catalog at home with the Pippin on a two page spread. The hype was just silly.
Originally posted by Placebo
This was real? I never knew that!
Actually, I wasn't sure if it was real or not when I posted earlier. But, here it is...
http://www.macgeek.org/museum/pippin/
A quick google search turned that up. Lots of pictures!
Originally posted by iPeon
This
"Named for one of its designer's daughters, the Lisa was supposed to be the Next Big Thing. It was the first personal computer to use a Graphical User Interface. Aimed mainly at large businesses, Apple said the Lisa would increase productivity by making computers easier to work with. The Lisa had a Motorola 68000 Processor running at 5 Mhz, 1 MB of RAM two 5.25" 871k floppy drives, an external 5 MB hard drive, and a built in 12" 720 x 360 monochrome monitor. At $9,995 it was a plunge few businesses were willing to take. When the Macintosh came out in 1984 for significantly less money, it eroded the Lisa's credibility further. Realizing this, Apple released the Lisa 2 at the same time as the Mac. The Lisa 2 cost half as much as the original, replaced the two 5.25" drives with a single 400k 3.5" drive, and offered configurations with up to 2 MB of RAM, and a 10 MB hard drive. In January 1985, the Lisa 2/10 was renamed the Macintosh XL, and outfitted with MacWorks, an emulator that allowed the Lisa to run the Mac OS. The XL was discontinued later that year."
I am pretty sure that it was Steve's daughter, the one he denied was his... Lisa. Or at-least thats how it was in that movie.
Originally posted by Luca Rescigno
Actually, I wasn't sure if it was real or not when I posted earlier. But, here it is...
http://www.macgeek.org/museum/pippin/
A quick google search turned that up. Lots of pictures!
Wow, that looks a lot like my GameCube.
Originally posted by MacUsers
I am pretty sure that it was Steve's daughter, the one he denied was his... Lisa. Or at-least thats how it was in that movie.
was i the only one who, when steve was talking about giving allowance checks vai the iTMS announcement, wanted him to say 'let's say i have a daughter named "Lisa." '
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Uh, Lisa, anyone?
First Apple computer that I ever touched - at work at a summer student job - was a Lisa. I don't know enough about Mac history to know why it failed [but someone has filled that in a bit up above, I see now], but I did prefer it at the time to the primitive PCs that were also kicking around the office.
Originally posted by rok
was i the only one who, when steve was talking about giving allowance checks vai the iTMS announcement, wanted him to say 'let's say i have a daughter named "Lisa." '
That would be crazy
Originally posted by Chinney
First Apple computer that I ever touched - at work at a summer student job - was a Lisa. I don't know enough about Mac history to know why it failed [but someone has filled that in a bit up above, I see now], but I did prefer it at the time to the primitive PCs that were also kicking around the office.
The short answer: The Lisa was way too expensive, and they marketed them as business machines which meant going against IBM at the time. There were lot of other issues: development costs, the Apple III, the Mac, IBM clones, proprietary and expensive components, and the project was nearly run aground by Jobs before he was moved on to the Mac project in order to salvage the Lisa (the Mac was basically R&D at that point, not expected to be a real product). That's just to name a few.
Jobs did learn to love a lot of the ideas and features the Lisa provided, and they showed up in NeXT and later in OS X when Apple left some of the Lisa's good ideas out to dry (they did bring in a lot of other stuff from the Lisa too). Stuff like sheets, the Dock, services, column view, the more unix-like guts, etc.
here are some screenshots from an old article about the Lisa's GUI.
Sorry to digress?
Originally posted by Eugene
eWorld
or? AOL!
Were any games made for it?
Originally posted by Ringo
Yeah, eWorld is possibly the most popular thing they ever did. Unfortunately it's not theirs any more.
eWorld was based on AOL 2.5. It never was 100% Apple's... It had only about 100,000 subscribers before it was canned...
Originally posted by BuonRotto
here are some screenshots from an old article about the Lisa's GUI.
Man that brings back memories. ::Sniff:: ::::sniff:::::
Originally posted by penseive
Wow, that looks a lot like my GameCube.
That looks more like an N64 than a GameCube.
The apple puck mouse!
Even Steve said it was a bad idea.
Originally posted by Mac Man 020581
The Apple SytleWriter printers. Gosh, those things were so terrible.
I have one of those, never had a problem with them though