"Do i detect thinly vieled blame in that post . . . or is it in the saying itself
perhaps the Tao is not infallible?! and perhaps Nietszche is right . . . even Eastern religions are religions of ressentement . . . much more mature than the West's religions but still vieled denial of Life?!?!?"
ummmm...any chance you could support this nonsense? How is this saying "thinly veiled blame"? And, even if it is (which I grant one could try and argue, although I don't buy it), how does that prove the Tao is not infallible? And where does the Tao claim to be infallible? It may, but I don't recall that from my reading of it (although I confess that was a few years ago).
Basically, your string of sentences seem to be unrelated to each other (or at minimum do not support each other in any logical chain). Since you are willing to insult others for their supposed lack of knowledge about philosophy (and, amusingly, suggest their age somehow precludes them from knowledge about it), why don't you tell us a little about your training, where you got your degree, etc.
Fish
The first reference to blame is with majorspunk . . . I noticed that his phrase, used in a politically flippant manner can be used to shore up ideological sides . . . I asked if there was a thinly disguised jab at what he thinks Liberal politics is all about.
The next question is about the notion that the phrase itself can be seen to presume wisdom . . . granted that is a stretch . . . but I went with it anyway
And going with it I discussed the notion that even the 'wisdom' philosophies of the East can be seen to deriving from ressentiment (this is not misspelled . . . it does not mean resentment simply . . . its french and in French has a tone that implies more than the English)
In disccussing this I mention the 'infallibility' of the Tao . . .that means only the aura that these texts have generally in the American mindset.
In stretching my take on it I refer to Nietszhe who has more reverence for Eastern Wisdom philosophies than he does Western Philophy but still sees in those ideas an origin in the denial of life and the body . . . a denial that is tantamount to the notion of ressentiment . . . . anyway, its all pretty silly, even though I really was chasing a minor insight.
Yes I do have a degree in Philosophy and I have taught Nietszche many times . . . he is 'on the mind' much too often and I pull out his ideas entirely too much . . . it should never be appropriate fo AO really.
Now about this baby thing . . . where did that come from all of a sudden? . . . she's a year old now and the cutest thing ever . ..
ressentiment (this is not misspelled . . . it does not mean resentment simply . . . its french and in French has a tone that implies more than the English)
Which is the most amusing part since not knowing this means not ever having studied him.
Anyway, you know what they say about not teaching nietzsche to young phil students.
The first reference to blame is with majorspunk . . . I noticed that his phrase, used in a politically flippant manner can be used to shore up ideological sides . . . I asked if there was a thinly disguised jab at what he thinks Liberal politics is all about.
The next question is about the notion that the phrase itself can be seen to presume wisdom . . . granted that is a stretch . . . but I went with it anyway
And going with it I discussed the notion that even the 'wisdom' philosophies of the East can be seen to deriving from ressentiment (this is not misspelled . . . it does not mean resentment simply . . . its french and in French has a tone that implies more than the English)
In disccussing this I mention the 'infallibility' of the Tao . . .that means only the aura that these texts have generally in the American mindset.
In stretching my take on it I refer to Nietszhe who has more reverence for Eastern Wisdom philosophies than he does Western Philophy but still sees in those ideas an origin in the denial of life and the body . . . a denial that is tantamount to the notion of ressentiment . . . . anyway, its all pretty silly, even though I really was chasing a minor insight.
Yes I do have a degree in Philosophy and I have taught Nietszche many times . . . he is 'on the mind' much too often and I pull out his ideas entirely too much . . . it should never be appropriate fo AO really.
Now about this baby thing . . . where did that come from all of a sudden? . . . she's a year old now and the cutest thing ever . ..
But being the cold hearted Killah you know me to be, you also know that my views on these ideologies/philosophies/religions are just as derogatory as my views of Islam (and of cos by extension Christianity and Judaism). Whatever gave you the impression I would find "respect" for these "wisdoms"? Btw, after watching Madonna cry on Oprah me thinks I'm gonna pay a visit to our local Kaballalist. Must be the Russian sentimentality thingy kicking in.
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Originally posted by DMBand0026
I know it's OT and none of my business, but, how long is aapl banned for? Is this a forever type thing?
I guess not since he just keeps coming back under new names, the newest being majorspunk.
Originally posted by fishdoc
pfflam said:
"Do i detect thinly vieled blame in that post . . . or is it in the saying itself
perhaps the Tao is not infallible?! and perhaps Nietszche is right . . . even Eastern religions are religions of ressentement . . . much more mature than the West's religions but still vieled denial of Life?!?!?"
ummmm...any chance you could support this nonsense? How is this saying "thinly veiled blame"? And, even if it is (which I grant one could try and argue, although I don't buy it), how does that prove the Tao is not infallible? And where does the Tao claim to be infallible? It may, but I don't recall that from my reading of it (although I confess that was a few years ago).
Basically, your string of sentences seem to be unrelated to each other (or at minimum do not support each other in any logical chain). Since you are willing to insult others for their supposed lack of knowledge about philosophy (and, amusingly, suggest their age somehow precludes them from knowledge about it), why don't you tell us a little about your training, where you got your degree, etc.
Fish
The first reference to blame is with majorspunk . . . I noticed that his phrase, used in a politically flippant manner can be used to shore up ideological sides . . . I asked if there was a thinly disguised jab at what he thinks Liberal politics is all about.
The next question is about the notion that the phrase itself can be seen to presume wisdom . . . granted that is a stretch . . . but I went with it anyway
And going with it I discussed the notion that even the 'wisdom' philosophies of the East can be seen to deriving from ressentiment (this is not misspelled . . . it does not mean resentment simply . . . its french and in French has a tone that implies more than the English)
In disccussing this I mention the 'infallibility' of the Tao . . .that means only the aura that these texts have generally in the American mindset.
In stretching my take on it I refer to Nietszhe who has more reverence for Eastern Wisdom philosophies than he does Western Philophy but still sees in those ideas an origin in the denial of life and the body . . . a denial that is tantamount to the notion of ressentiment . . . . anyway, its all pretty silly, even though I really was chasing a minor insight.
Yes I do have a degree in Philosophy and I have taught Nietszche many times . . . he is 'on the mind' much too often and I pull out his ideas entirely too much . . . it should never be appropriate fo AO really.
Now about this baby thing . . . where did that come from all of a sudden? . . . she's a year old now and the cutest thing ever . ..
Originally posted by pfflam
ressentiment (this is not misspelled . . . it does not mean resentment simply . . . its french and in French has a tone that implies more than the English)
Which is the most amusing part since not knowing this means not ever having studied him.
Anyway, you know what they say about not teaching nietzsche to young phil students.
As for the flamewars etc referred to by others - well, glad I missed them!
Fish
"Heroin: It's my wife, and it's my life." -louReed
Originally posted by pfflam
The first reference to blame is with majorspunk . . . I noticed that his phrase, used in a politically flippant manner can be used to shore up ideological sides . . . I asked if there was a thinly disguised jab at what he thinks Liberal politics is all about.
The next question is about the notion that the phrase itself can be seen to presume wisdom . . . granted that is a stretch . . . but I went with it anyway
And going with it I discussed the notion that even the 'wisdom' philosophies of the East can be seen to deriving from ressentiment (this is not misspelled . . . it does not mean resentment simply . . . its french and in French has a tone that implies more than the English)
In disccussing this I mention the 'infallibility' of the Tao . . .that means only the aura that these texts have generally in the American mindset.
In stretching my take on it I refer to Nietszhe who has more reverence for Eastern Wisdom philosophies than he does Western Philophy but still sees in those ideas an origin in the denial of life and the body . . . a denial that is tantamount to the notion of ressentiment . . . . anyway, its all pretty silly, even though I really was chasing a minor insight.
Yes I do have a degree in Philosophy and I have taught Nietszche many times . . . he is 'on the mind' much too often and I pull out his ideas entirely too much . . . it should never be appropriate fo AO really.
Now about this baby thing . . . where did that come from all of a sudden? . . . she's a year old now and the cutest thing ever . ..
But being the cold hearted Killah you know me to be, you also know that my views on these ideologies/philosophies/religions are just as derogatory as my views of Islam (and of cos by extension Christianity and Judaism). Whatever gave you the impression I would find "respect" for these "wisdoms"? Btw, after watching Madonna cry on Oprah