AtAT hints at new, cheaper iPod at MWSF

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  • Reply 21 of 35
    Quote:

    Originally posted by MiMac



    1; Colour screen (a no-brainer, even cheap cell phones have this!)

    2; Longer battery life (yes, six hours or so is damn good, but other similar devices can beat this figure easily).

    3; Built in FM reciever and recorder (yes, I know add-ons are available, but who wants more clutter?)

    4; Bluetooth headset (why not?)





    1: Why?

    2: That would be nice

    3: FM? People still listen to the radio?

    4: See #2. And there are not decent BT headsets. So it would increase the price, reduce the battery life, etc. etc.



    Keep it simple. Keep it about the MUSIC. On the go playlists was a welcome addition. That's the kind of stuff the iPod needs. Not this other crap people have been throwing around.
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  • Reply 22 of 35
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    Originally posted by åsen

    I was reminded by this Financial Times article this morning: Paul Taylor is the FT's personal technology correspondent, and is resident in NY.



    To bring thread full-circle, Jack at AtAT posted a few paragraphs of commentary on Friday concerning this article. He did a little investigating and came to the conclusion that the alarmist tone of the article is exaggerated.
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  • Reply 23 of 35
    The one thing that I've thought they should should change about the iPod, that shouldn't be expensive at all, is bump the flash memory from 32 to 64 MB, which would increase the skip protection and battery life by minimizing hard drive spinning even more.
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  • Reply 24 of 35
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    The SoHO Apple Store could well be out. It's criminal how much business goes through that place, especially with the iSights and iPods. People pick them up like I pick up gum in the supermarket checkout line. Some of my coworkers were in the store on Wednesday (showing off the stair to a client, measuring it, even though someone else designed it), and they said the traffic there at 3 pm on a weekday was outrageous.
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  • Reply 25 of 35
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BuonRotto

    Some of my coworkers were in the [SoHo Apple] store on Wednesday (showing off the stair to a client, measuring it, even though someone else designed it)...



    Should Apple branch out into the stairwell design business?
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  • Reply 26 of 35
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    That's why they hire Peter Bohlin.



    (Odd that the Apple Stores, which have won several awards, aren't on the web site. I get the feeling their web presence hasn't been updated in a while. Come to think of it, they don't have the new Liberty Bell center on there either.)
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  • Reply 27 of 35
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JBL

    Maybe the new iPod is to be released with the "home on iPod" feature of Panther?



    I've never understood this feature. The iPod's hard drive isn't built with computer use in mind - that's why it's not recommended as a bootable drive (though it's possible.)



    Why would you want to shuttle your Home directory on an iPod?



    Extended use could burn out the drive. If, to prevent this, it's loading the entire home directory into the hard drive of the computer you're using at the time, it's a security risk to your data.
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  • Reply 28 of 35
    mimacmimac Posts: 872member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pensieve

    1: Why?

    2: That would be nice

    3: FM? People still listen to the radio?

    4: See #2. And there are not decent BT headsets. So it would increase the price, reduce the battery life, etc. etc.



    Keep it simple. Keep it about the MUSIC. On the go playlists was a welcome addition. That's the kind of stuff the iPod needs. Not this other crap people have been throwing around.




    1: Why? ...err, because it's feasible, it's the next step, monochrome is sooo 1984.

    2: Yep, more music on the go.

    3: Indeed, radio is not dead yet, not by a long shot. Think about it...you hear a tune you like on the radio and you record a snippet, find out who it is, buy the CD, put it on your iPod.

    4: If not BT headset then a BT chip inside the iPod to sync with your BT enabled Hi-Fi etc.. it's a coming...



    Keeping it simple is not an option when your trying to stay ahead of the pack, extras like these sell products.

    Yes, I agree that it should be about the music, but that's the state of the market, when buying any electronic equipment you look for "features AND function".

    The iPod should be the best it can be.
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  • Reply 29 of 35
    Quote:

    Originally posted by MiMac

    1: Why? ...err, because it's feasible, it's the next step, monochrome is sooo 1984.





    * Color screens eat batteries.

    * The mobile phones with color screens costs a great deal more than monochrome ones. A fact that is masked by the the real costs of mobile phones being recouped through 12-month phone contracts.

    * There are regular complaints about these color screens being unreadable in sunlight.

    * Even the Sony-Ericsson z600, one of the latest phones available uses a monochrome caller display on the outside in conjunction with it's color screen that you only see when you flip it open.
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  • Reply 30 of 35
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pensieve

    1: Why?





    Now that you can store you digital camera pictures on the iPod, it would be great if you could preview them on a colour screen. If Apple reserved this for the top end model, couldn't it be a higher quality than the type used in cell phones?
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  • Reply 31 of 35
    shit
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  • Reply 32 of 35
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Frank777

    I've never understood this feature. The iPod's hard drive isn't built with computer use in mind - that's why it's not recommended as a bootable drive (though it's possible.)



    This isn't so much a flaw of the hard drive as it's a design tradeoff with the iPod: Basically, the iPod doesn't cool the hard drive all that efficiently, so if it's active for too long it can overheat and die. That's a problem that any hard drive would have.



    The solution would be to better cool the hard drive, but there's not much sense in going to the trouble and expense unless you've designed a use for the drive that requires it to do more than refresh 32MB of RAM every so often.
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  • Reply 33 of 35
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Using 64 megs of RAM to enhance battery life is a great idea. Couldn't add much if anything to the cost.
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  • Reply 34 of 35
    bartobarto Posts: 2,246member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Frank777

    I've never understood this feature.



    It's a very cool, totally obvious feature. Useful to many, many people. I hope it's out soon.



    Screw the minimal risks associated with it.
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  • Reply 35 of 35
    jbljbl Posts: 555member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Frank777

    I've never understood this feature.



    Rght now I essentially use the "Home on iPod" feature with a FireLite drive. I have a computer at work and a computer at home. I don't really work much anyplace else so it doesn't make sense for me to carry a PowerBook around (much heavier, much more expensive, plus if I wanted to take advantage of the faster processors and larger screens on my desktop systems I would have to be restarting my laptop all the time). I have my Eudora, iPhoto and iTunes folders on both machines set to aliases pointing to the FireLite. This also means that I can go to the Apple Store and check my email or test how fast the new machines using my applications of real files, and that when I visit my parents I have access to my iPhoto library etc. Unfortunately without support built into the operating system it doesn't work as well as it might otherwise. For example, I had problems when I tried to set my entire home folder, or ~/Library to point to the FireLite.



    While I think this would be great for me, the people who would benefit most are schools. Imagine a computer lab at a University. You could walk up to any computer, plug in your iPod and you have access to all your files.



    And by the way, the original description of home on iPod said that you could use any FireWire drive.
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