The new iMac isnt revolutionary.

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
If the new was revolutionary it wouldnt be last years product rehash delivered today. It would be next years product delivered today.



Geforce 2MX?!



No screen size options?



Limited hardrive space for my payment of $1,951!



Why didnt Apple make a Geforce 4MX a standard graphics chip?



Why couldnt a screen be upgradeable?



Why isnt there a bigger hard drive for $2,000?



Dont get me wring (i bought the machine) but I wish Apple would have made this thing truly revolutuionary. The iMac is still new and I am sure those above mentioned things wil come in time but its a shame they arent here now.



I think Apple had to cut back on the imac because the Powermac is in a rut and they couldnt spec it up enough to give the iMac a little more headroom.
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  • Reply 1 of 54
    duh. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



    I'm guessing you missed all the "new iMac isn't revolutionary" topics a month or so ago.



    So, did you cancel your order since you realized is isn't "revolutionary"?
  • Reply 2 of 54
    No, I didnt cancel my order because I will be perfectly fine working with something like the iMac.



    Its just not enough for $2,000.
  • Reply 3 of 54
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    What do you expect from Apple?
  • Reply 4 of 54
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    I think you should buy a few more rev 1 machines so that Apple can clear them out of the channel faster and bring me my 1899 superdrive 1+ Ghz, DDR, GF4MX, 17" TFT iMac! WHHEEEEE!!!!!



    Well maybe not so fast but I look for the next iMac rev to bump the proc speed a touch and run the bus at 133Mhz, and add an HDD bump to 80GB on the top model. Possibly a slight RAM re-arrangement to put two 168pin dimms on the user accessible side. Apple seemed to make a host of little changes quite quickly after the intro of the 233 bondi. They'll probably do that again as they work out the bugs on their first LCD rev. Think of yourself as final beta tester. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> There, hopefully, won't be any major problems with your machine, but I think it's reasonable to expect a few niggles, but nothing that can't be straightened out with more than a firmware patch. Either way I'd have waited for a couple months worth of press reports/internet griping before I made any decision on an iMac.



    [ 02-10-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
  • Reply 5 of 54
    I will have my iMac on Thursday. As I said before, I will not tolerate any dead pixels (maybe one wont matter). Apple sold me a computer for $2,000 of my own money and I will not accept a screwed machine.



    I hope it has no problems and i will have to be a happy camper for 4 years.
  • Reply 6 of 54
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    when was the last time hardware was revolutionary? now software...
  • Reply 7 of 54
    It could be even better than it is though.
  • Reply 8 of 54
    fobiefobie Posts: 216member
    The iMac market is regular home users, not gamers and people who leech 10GB pr0n every day or work with Photoshop. Why did you even buy the iMac?



    Buy a PowerMac instead, then you can upgrade you graphics card, buy another HD and use any screen you want.
  • Reply 9 of 54
    [quote]Originally posted by fobie:

    <strong>The iMac market is regular home users, not gamers and people who leech 10GB pr0n every day or work with Photoshop. Why did you even buy the iMac?



    Buy a PowerMac instead, then you can upgrade you graphics card, buy another HD and use any screen you want.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It doesnt have to be like that.
  • Reply 10 of 54
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>I will have my iMac on Thursday. As I said before, I will not tolerate any dead pixels (maybe one wont matter). Apple sold me a computer for $2,000 of my own money and I will not accept a screwed machine.



    I hope it has no problems and i will have to be a happy camper for 4 years.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD.... YOU HAVE TO TOLERATE DEAD PIXELS. AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING. THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH GETTING LCDS.
  • Reply 11 of 54
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>



    GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD.... YOU HAVE TO TOLERATE DEAD PIXELS. AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING. THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH GETTING LCDS.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not true. I will see what it looks like wen I get it.
  • Reply 12 of 54
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>



    Not true. I will see what it looks like wen I get it.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    What do you mean not true? Unless you have a lot no company will do anything.
  • Reply 13 of 54
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>



    Not true. I will see what it looks like wen I get it.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I agree. Money is money. Perfection is perfection.
  • Reply 14 of 54
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>If the new was revolutionary it wouldnt be last years product rehash delivered today. It would be next years product delivered today.



    [snip list of specs]



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    First of all, for the price, the specs are competitive. Apple has to pay for components just like everyone else does, so they can't sell a machine chock full of the latest and greatest for $2K.



    You'll notice that a lot of consumer LCD PCs come with "Intel graphics acceleration" or something similarly notional. Compared to that the GeForce2MX is a monster.



    But that really isn't the point. That's never what makes a machine revolutionary. It's not the features on the spec sheet that matter, it's what the company does with them. The original Macintosh didn't have anything remarkable for hardware either. Was that not revolutionary?



    The iMac you're getting is a one-stop, plug-and-go multimedia and internet workstation. It redefines the way a computer occupies space, and one of the ways in which you interface with it (by allowing the monitor to be easily repositioned). These aren't the sort of things that stand out in a feature list, but they're the sort of thing that can completely change the ways in which a computer is approached and used, and at the end of the day that's what matters.
  • Reply 15 of 54
    They could have implemented more for 2k, thats all i am saying.
  • Reply 16 of 54
    Macintosh you don't even have the computer and your crying like a baby, why did you even order the thing if its not up to your standards? I am assuming so that you can bitch and whine about it. Lighten up a little and try to enjoy life, I mean you just spent $2000.00, I would think you could focus on the good things about that instead. Why make yourself miserable? Maybe you should have just used the money for a trip to the carribean, sounds like some sun and relaxation would be good for you. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
  • Reply 17 of 54
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>They could have implemented more for 2k, thats all i am saying.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    First of all, it's only $1800 before taxes and stuff. Secondly, what more do you expect from them?
  • Reply 18 of 54
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    "The new iMac isn't revolutionary!"

    "No?"

    "But it's perfect for my needs."

    "Um...yeah..."



    ---



    Matsu, hmm, I doubt they'd change the current iMac to accept two 168-pin DIMMs on the bottom side. First, customer service people would have to ask whether the customer's iMac was a January 2002 Flat Panel iMac or a whatever-date Flat Panel iMac. Second, there's no identifiable change with this reconfiguration...unless Apple adds a minor aesthetic change to distinguish it.



    On the other hand, two user accessable DIMMs would be great...even if they were SO-DIMMs...
  • Reply 19 of 54
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,261member
    [edit]



    Removed harsh language.



    Not sure why I let a 16 year old kid with ADD get under my skin in the first place.



    If Apple was to put a 80 GB hard drive, a GeForce 4 MX video card, and a 17" LCD into the iMac, it would be treading pretty close to the PowerMacs, don't you think?



    I know you need to come up with things to do to pass the time until your iMac arrives, but try and reserve judgement until it does. Amorph is right on with this post - it's not all in the specs. It's what Apple does with them - and that's the beauty of the iMac.



    [ 02-10-2002: Message edited by: murbot ]</p>
  • Reply 20 of 54
    The new iMac could have a Geforce 4MX instead of a 2MX.



    So I bashed a machine I bought, big deal. i am just pointing out a few things about the iMac that are not that great.
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