PM (QuickSilver): G4/800 introduced 2002.01.28 at $1,599 (low end model)
iMac FP: introduced 2002.01.07 at US$1,299 (700 MHz, CD-RW), $1,499 (700 MHz, Combo), and $1,799 (800 MHz, SuperDrive)
At it's introduction the iMac FP low end was only 100 mhz less than the low end PM, and the high end iMac was equil in speed.
Today:
Low end iMac:
$1,299.00
15-inch LCD
1GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
32MB DDR video memory
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
Combo Drive
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme Ready
Bluetooth Option
Mid range: (I'm not listing the high end due to its larger screen and higher price)
17-inch widescreen LCD
1.25GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR video memory
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
SuperDrive
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme Ready
Bluetooth Option
Low end PM: (not the G4 PM which is a pre-OS X only computer that Apple is holding on to solely to appease the publishing industry)
$1,799.00
1.6GHz PowerPC G5
800MHz frontside bus
512K L2 cache
256MB DDR333 128-bit SDRAM
Expandable to 4GB SDRAM
80GB Serial ATA
SuperDrive
Three PCI Slots
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR video memory
56K internal modem
The iMac hasn't even been able to maintain the performance ratio that it had with the PM when it was released. I think that most posters in this thread are just asking for a good computer at a good price. The iMac hasn't even been able to maintain the value that it had when it was introduced. As a consumer I have the right to expect more for my money, and as it stands now my Cube with some minor upgrades will do me fine until Apple comes out with a computer that I am willing to buy.
The PowerMac Line is moving to 90nm G5s at speeds from 2.0 to 2.4 GHz (presumably). If the iMac line were to move from the current 130 nm G4s to 90nm G5s @ 1.4, 1.6, & 1.8 GHz, we would get three things:
a) lower prices, as 90nm G5s are cheaper than 130nm G4s
b) increased performance and cooler operating temperatures
c) closer specs with consumer PC's, at least on the MHz front, which no matter what anyone says, is stil the first thing a potential buyer sees.
Throw in a slot loading drive (which should have been there to begin with) and you've got a nice little revision.
No slot loading drive! How are we supposed to us the DVD cameras with the minidisks in a slot loading drive? No thanks...and they are getting more and more popular.
Applenut is right, the price is too high. Why would I spend $2199 on an LCD iMac when, for the same money, I can get a dual 1.8GHz tower and a separate monitor?
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iMac FP: introduced 2002.01.07 at US$1,299 (700 MHz, CD-RW), $1,499 (700 MHz, Combo), and $1,799 (800 MHz, SuperDrive)
At it's introduction the iMac FP low end was only 100 mhz less than the low end PM, and the high end iMac was equil in speed.
Today:
Low end iMac:
$1,299.00
15-inch LCD
1GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
32MB DDR video memory
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
Combo Drive
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme Ready
Bluetooth Option
Mid range: (I'm not listing the high end due to its larger screen and higher price)
17-inch widescreen LCD
1.25GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR video memory
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
SuperDrive
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme Ready
Bluetooth Option
Low end PM: (not the G4 PM which is a pre-OS X only computer that Apple is holding on to solely to appease the publishing industry)
$1,799.00
1.6GHz PowerPC G5
800MHz frontside bus
512K L2 cache
256MB DDR333 128-bit SDRAM
Expandable to 4GB SDRAM
80GB Serial ATA
SuperDrive
Three PCI Slots
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR video memory
56K internal modem
The iMac hasn't even been able to maintain the performance ratio that it had with the PM when it was released. I think that most posters in this thread are just asking for a good computer at a good price. The iMac hasn't even been able to maintain the value that it had when it was introduced. As a consumer I have the right to expect more for my money, and as it stands now my Cube with some minor upgrades will do me fine until Apple comes out with a computer that I am willing to buy.
a) lower prices, as 90nm G5s are cheaper than 130nm G4s
b) increased performance and cooler operating temperatures
c) closer specs with consumer PC's, at least on the MHz front, which no matter what anyone says, is stil the first thing a potential buyer sees.
Throw in a slot loading drive (which should have been there to begin with) and you've got a nice little revision.
Originally posted by cubist
Applenut is right, the price is too high. Why would I spend $2199 on an LCD iMac when, for the same money, I can get a dual 1.8GHz tower and a separate monitor?
hmm.... dual 1.8 = 2499
17" LCD (apple) = 699
2499 + 699 = 2199 ????????????????
Whatever you're smokin' ... pass some over here !
Originally posted by KingOfSomewhereHot
hmm.... dual 1.8 = 2499
17" LCD (apple) = 699
2499 + 699 = 2199 ????????????????
Whatever you're smokin' ... pass some over here !
He's not smoking anything, just using that "Fuzzy" math that they teach politicians in College.