Grrrr...I hate Bush bashing. It's quickly becoming the national past-time, even for those who support Bush. The man is doing a great job, all things considered.
**DMB runs away as fast as his legs will carry him**
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Gotta love the platinum sounds that went along with that too. Brings back memories of life pre OS X
So they have been raping and plundering this for years. It's just that Bush is especially bad about it.
It's been rotten for 25 years but is MORE rotten under Bush...HAhahahahaha... The thing is rotten from the beginning because it is pay as you go. If anyone truly understood that they wouldn't be letting 13% of their money go to the government with NO return.
As long as secular groups can access school facilities after hours, religious groups should be able to do so as well. The government shouldn't be able to tell my kids what private groups they should or should not join.
What folks refuse to understand is that the absence of religion is itself a religion.
Belief in NO religion is a religion in itself? Do they go to the invisible chruch for that?
And it's possible to believe in a higher being WITHOUT having a religion.
And it's also easy to have a well rounded belief and morals system... without religion and a belief in a god or gods.
Again, you're letting a hostility toward organized religion intrude on simple logic.
It's probably closer to the mark to say that you don't understand what a religion is.
A religion is a set of beliefs and morals that shape a person's worldview.
The belief that man evolved from the ape and accounts to no higher power than himself is every bit as much a "religion" as a fundamentalist who thinks the earth is 10,000 years old.
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Originally posted by chu_bakka
What lies? If it's criticism of Bush it's a lie?
When did bush trash Social Security? When did he threaten too?
Originally posted by chu_bakka
When you borrow from Social Security funds to pay for a tax cut.
Educate yourself. There are no "Social Security funds", just a payroll tax that goes into the treasury. Try not to be so ignorant in the future.
So can we agree that this is a "lie"?
Originally posted by Scott
Educate yourself. There are no "Social Security funds", just a payroll tax that goes into the treasury. Try not to be so ignorant in the future.
So can we agree that this is a "lie"?
No.
When you barrow the SS that goes into the treasury you're barrowing from SS.
I hate to say it but this is an old story. My mom worked for SS for over 25 years and she always told me :
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" Don't depend on it because it will probably be gone by the time you are of age to receive it. It's rotten from the core out. "
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So they have been raping and plundering this for years. It's just that Bush is especially bad about it.
**DMB runs away as fast as his legs will carry him**
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Gotta love the platinum sounds that went along with that too. Brings back memories of life pre OS X
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pphttttt... I know I couldn't keep a straight face either.
Originally posted by jimmac
No.
When you barrow the SS that goes into the treasury you're barrowing from SS.
I hate to say it but this is an old story. My mom worked for SS for over 25 years and she always told me :
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" Don't depend on it because it will probably be gone by the time you are of age to receive it. It's rotten from the core out. "
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So they have been raping and plundering this for years. It's just that Bush is especially bad about it.
It's been rotten for 25 years but is MORE rotten under Bush...HAhahahahaha... The thing is rotten from the beginning because it is pay as you go. If anyone truly understood that they wouldn't be letting 13% of their money go to the government with NO return.
Nick
So we?ll continue with the same crappy system.
Originally posted by Frank777
As long as secular groups can access school facilities after hours, religious groups should be able to do so as well. The government shouldn't be able to tell my kids what private groups they should or should not join.
What folks refuse to understand is that the absence of religion is itself a religion.
Belief in NO religion is a religion in itself? Do they go to the invisible chruch for that?
And it's possible to believe in a higher being WITHOUT having a religion.
And it's also easy to have a well rounded belief and morals system... without religion and a belief in a god or gods.
Originally posted by chu_bakka
That makes no sense.
Belief in NO religion is a religion in itself? Do they go to the invisible chruch for that?
And it's possible to believe in a higher being WITHOUT having a religion.
And it's also easy to have a well rounded belief and morals system... without religion and a belief in a god or gods.
Again, you're letting a hostility toward organized religion intrude on simple logic.
It's probably closer to the mark to say that you don't understand what a religion is.
A religion is a set of beliefs and morals that shape a person's worldview.
The belief that man evolved from the ape and accounts to no higher power than himself is every bit as much a "religion" as a fundamentalist who thinks the earth is 10,000 years old.
No church, mosque or temple necessary.
n.
1.\t
a.\tBelief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b.\tA personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2.\tThe life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3.\tA set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4.\tA cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Make up your mind. Lack of a religion is NOT a religion in and of itself.