It's balanced. Great writing usually. But there's plenty of lazy crappy reporters.
Ever read the Post? It's crap...it's a tabloid... the only thing missing is a Page 6 girl. They can write an article about a new restaurant and somehow get a dig in and HIllary.
I assume that because you think the NY Post is the "Republican mouthpeice" then I can assume that the NYT is leftist dreck?
Well, maybe, but not for the same reasons. Murdoch intentionally pushes his media holdings to the right, as detailed by Fox News President Ailes in Vox Fox. So while calling murdoch's US holdings 'right-leaning' is simply reiterating their mission as openly intended by those running them, claims regarding the alleged 'left-leaning' bias due to alleged unconscious bias of reporters are unsubstantiated.
Well, maybe, but not for the same reasons. Murdoch intentionally pushes his media holdings to the right, as detailed by Fox News President Ailes in Vox Fox. So while calling murdoch's US holdings 'right-leaning' is simply reiterating their mission as openly intended by those running them, claims regarding the alleged 'left-leaning' bias due to alleged unconscious bias of reporters are unsubstantiated.
Will the Post be running and restraction of the editorial?
Here's Moveon's statement
Monday, Jan. 5, 2004
ADS ATTACKED BY RNC CHAIRMAN
ARE NOT MOVEON.ORG VOTER FUND ADS
MoveOn.org Voter Fund Regrets Screening Process Allowed Ads to Slip Through
Statement by Wes Boyd, Founder of MoveOn.org Voter Fund:
The Republican National Committee and its chairman have falsely accused MoveOn.org of sponsoring ads on its website which compare President Bush to Adolf Hitler. The claim is deliberately and maliciously misleading.
During December the MoveOn.org Voter Fund invited members of the public to submit ads that purported to tell the truth about the President and his policies. More than 1,500 submissions from ordinary Americans came in and were posted on a web site, bushin30seconds.org, for the public to review.
None of these was our ad, nor did their appearance constitute endorsement or sponsorship by MoveOn.org Voter Fund. They will not appear on TV. We do not support the sentiment expressed in the two Hitler submissions. They were voted down by our members and the public, who reviewed the ads and submitted nearly 3 million critiques in the process of choosing the 15 finalist entries.
We agree that the two ads in question were in poor taste and deeply regret that they slipped through our screening process. In the future, if we publish or broadcast raw material, we will create a more effective filtering system.
Contrast this with the behavior of the RNC and its allies when supporters of President Bush used TV ads morphing the faces of Sens. Tom Daschle (D-SD) and Max Cleland (D-GA) into that of Osama Bin Laden during the 2002 Senate races.
MoveOn.org and the MoveOn.org Voter Fund exist to bring the public into the political process and produce a more fact-based election process. We regret that the RNC doesnÕt seem to embrace the same goals.
Well, ambulatory surgery centers specializing in reproductive healthcare are often where women with miscarriages are sent for D&C. In other words, places that typically also do abortions.
Well, ambulatory surgery centers specializing in reproductive healthcare are often where women with miscarriages are sent for D&C. In other words, places that typically also do abortions.
Maybe you should learn about your own industry before trying to tackle this stuff.
You're just described a hospital. But back to your original statement. Please provide proof that "abortion clinics are the best equipped".
What a stupid statement. And you consider yourself so smart and well informed. What an ignoramus you are. If you're going to make shit up just be a little critical of yourself. It'll be more believable and wont make me laugh so hard.
You're just described a hospital. But back to your original statement. Please provide proof that "abortion clinics are the best equipped".
Really?
Quote:
The Department of Health defines an ambulatory surgery center (ASC) as a facility that operates primarily to provide surgical services to patients who do not require overnight hospital care. Commonly referred to as "day surgery centers", federal guidelines require that (ASCs) operate exclusively for purposes of providing surgical services to patients not requiring hospitalization. Other requirements include, having one fully-equipped operating room, an area for preparing patients, x-ray equipment, clinical laboratory services, recovery rooms, and a registered nurse on duty at all times when patients are in the facility. Most (ASCs) are free-standing; however they may be co-located with a hospital, physician office or clinic as long as they meet all of the state's criteria for licensure.
What a stupid statement. And you consider yourself so smart and well informed. What an ignoramus you are. If you're going to make shit up just be a little critical of yourself. It'll be more believable and wont make me laugh so hard.
Wipe the ho-hos off your face and stand in the corner.
While I don't hold Moveon responsible for the filmmaker submission, I do hold the judgment of the filmmaker's suspect and I am proud of my fellow liberals for rejecting that submission.
I pray that Republicans will do the same when the "Osama" ads start airing next spring (speculation, but I'd put money on it).
It would be interesting to find the most negative ads from Bush and Gore in 2000 to see how they compare to 2004.
But as you prove with your own statement it can legitimately be done. Hitler and Ghandi, there it is. It's a valid comparison and anyone that fights it is being blind (unless of course Hitler never did go on a hunger strike, but hopefully you get my point.)
Hitler was a politician for a long time before he started gassing people. During that time he was a politician that has plenty of similarities to modern day people. There's no reason to pretend otherwise.
Anyone who wants to make the world 'Hitler' off limits in a political debate is causing more problems than he/she is helping. Hitler was essentially a fascist. My long locked thread was about some similarities between modern day republicans and fascists.
I'm sure you spend the same amount of time examining how the head of the Socialists in Germany (Hitler) also might compare well with the left as well.
As opposed to the RNC ads in 2002 that morphed between Tom Daschle and Osama Bin Laden... those didn't slip through anything... they were produced and paid for by the republicans.
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It's balanced. Great writing usually. But there's plenty of lazy crappy reporters.
Ever read the Post? It's crap...it's a tabloid... the only thing missing is a Page 6 girl. They can write an article about a new restaurant and somehow get a dig in and HIllary.
Originally posted by Scott
I assume that because you think the NY Post is the "Republican mouthpeice" then I can assume that the NYT is leftist dreck?
Well, maybe, but not for the same reasons. Murdoch intentionally pushes his media holdings to the right, as detailed by Fox News President Ailes in Vox Fox. So while calling murdoch's US holdings 'right-leaning' is simply reiterating their mission as openly intended by those running them, claims regarding the alleged 'left-leaning' bias due to alleged unconscious bias of reporters are unsubstantiated.
Originally posted by giant
Well, maybe, but not for the same reasons. Murdoch intentionally pushes his media holdings to the right, as detailed by Fox News President Ailes in Vox Fox. So while calling murdoch's US holdings 'right-leaning' is simply reiterating their mission as openly intended by those running them, claims regarding the alleged 'left-leaning' bias due to alleged unconscious bias of reporters are unsubstantiated.
Yea and hospitals don't have outpatient clinics.
Here's Moveon's statement
Monday, Jan. 5, 2004
ADS ATTACKED BY RNC CHAIRMAN
ARE NOT MOVEON.ORG VOTER FUND ADS
MoveOn.org Voter Fund Regrets Screening Process Allowed Ads to Slip Through
Statement by Wes Boyd, Founder of MoveOn.org Voter Fund:
The Republican National Committee and its chairman have falsely accused MoveOn.org of sponsoring ads on its website which compare President Bush to Adolf Hitler. The claim is deliberately and maliciously misleading.
During December the MoveOn.org Voter Fund invited members of the public to submit ads that purported to tell the truth about the President and his policies. More than 1,500 submissions from ordinary Americans came in and were posted on a web site, bushin30seconds.org, for the public to review.
None of these was our ad, nor did their appearance constitute endorsement or sponsorship by MoveOn.org Voter Fund. They will not appear on TV. We do not support the sentiment expressed in the two Hitler submissions. They were voted down by our members and the public, who reviewed the ads and submitted nearly 3 million critiques in the process of choosing the 15 finalist entries.
We agree that the two ads in question were in poor taste and deeply regret that they slipped through our screening process. In the future, if we publish or broadcast raw material, we will create a more effective filtering system.
Contrast this with the behavior of the RNC and its allies when supporters of President Bush used TV ads morphing the faces of Sens. Tom Daschle (D-SD) and Max Cleland (D-GA) into that of Osama Bin Laden during the 2002 Senate races.
MoveOn.org and the MoveOn.org Voter Fund exist to bring the public into the political process and produce a more fact-based election process. We regret that the RNC doesnÕt seem to embrace the same goals.
Originally posted by Scott
Yea and hospitals don't have outpatient clinics.
Well, ambulatory surgery centers specializing in reproductive healthcare are often where women with miscarriages are sent for D&C. In other words, places that typically also do abortions.
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/12190-1.asp
Maybe you should learn about your own industry before trying to tackle this stuff.
Originally posted by giant
Well, ambulatory surgery centers specializing in reproductive healthcare are often where women with miscarriages are sent for D&C. In other words, places that typically also do abortions.
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/12190-1.asp
Maybe you should learn about your own industry before trying to tackle this stuff.
You're just described a hospital. But back to your original statement. Please provide proof that "abortion clinics are the best equipped".
What a stupid statement. And you consider yourself so smart and well informed. What an ignoramus you are. If you're going to make shit up just be a little critical of yourself. It'll be more believable and wont make me laugh so hard.
Originally posted by Scott
You're just described a hospital. But back to your original statement. Please provide proof that "abortion clinics are the best equipped".
Really?
The Department of Health defines an ambulatory surgery center (ASC) as a facility that operates primarily to provide surgical services to patients who do not require overnight hospital care. Commonly referred to as "day surgery centers", federal guidelines require that (ASCs) operate exclusively for purposes of providing surgical services to patients not requiring hospitalization. Other requirements include, having one fully-equipped operating room, an area for preparing patients, x-ray equipment, clinical laboratory services, recovery rooms, and a registered nurse on duty at all times when patients are in the facility. Most (ASCs) are free-standing; however they may be co-located with a hospital, physician office or clinic as long as they meet all of the state's criteria for licensure.
http://www.webster.edu/~zimmer/docs/ASC.htm
Originally posted by Scott
What a stupid statement. And you consider yourself so smart and well informed. What an ignoramus you are. If you're going to make shit up just be a little critical of yourself. It'll be more believable and wont make me laugh so hard.
Wipe the ho-hos off your face and stand in the corner.
Originally posted by Northgate
Bravo.
While I don't hold Moveon responsible for the filmmaker submission, I do hold the judgment of the filmmaker's suspect and I am proud of my fellow liberals for rejecting that submission.
I pray that Republicans will do the same when the "Osama" ads start airing next spring (speculation, but I'd put money on it).
It would be interesting to find the most negative ads from Bush and Gore in 2000 to see how they compare to 2004.
Nick
Originally posted by bunge
But as you prove with your own statement it can legitimately be done. Hitler and Ghandi, there it is. It's a valid comparison and anyone that fights it is being blind (unless of course Hitler never did go on a hunger strike, but hopefully you get my point.)
Hitler was a politician for a long time before he started gassing people. During that time he was a politician that has plenty of similarities to modern day people. There's no reason to pretend otherwise.
Anyone who wants to make the world 'Hitler' off limits in a political debate is causing more problems than he/she is helping. Hitler was essentially a fascist. My long locked thread was about some similarities between modern day republicans and fascists.
I'm sure you spend the same amount of time examining how the head of the Socialists in Germany (Hitler) also might compare well with the left as well.
Nick
http://www.northsidewomensclinic.com/aboutus.html
Looks a lot more like an abortion clinic than a hospital.
Originally posted by trumptman
I'm sure you spend the same amount of time examining how the head of the Socialists in Germany (Hitler) also might compare well with the left as well.
Thanks for supporting my point.
Originally posted by trumptman
I'm sure you spend the same amount of time examining how the head of the Socialists in Germany (Hitler) also might compare well with the left as well.
Nick
Originally posted by giant
Oh, and what's this accredited ambulatory surgery center?
http://www.northsidewomensclinic.com/aboutus.html
Looks a lot more like an abortion clinic than a hospital.
Please support your original statement, tool.
Originally posted by Scott
Please support your original statement, tool.
Well, you certainly are more living proof of how low the bar is for phds these days.
Originally posted by ShawnJ
Your creepy obsession with me is getting a little weird.
Try to speak in a manner where you make some sense. Your little crush on me is getting a little embarassing.
Nick
thread is closed.