Microsoft Office 2004

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  • Reply 181 of 192
    I hear you on the concern of an Apple monopoly and what Apple may be doing to push other software developers out of the Mac market. It is a tough issue and I'm sure there has been much discussion going on inside Apple on it. Maybe the reason we haven't sen a new/updated/ office suite from Apple is because of fear that MS would dumb their efforts.



    However, I really love what Apple has done with all their software. I really beleive a melding of Keynote with a word processor would quickly become my word processor of choice. It's is really stupid that MS Office can't handle the PDF graphics I can "print" out from any OSX app. They look like complete crap when imported into word or powerpoint.



    I'm just hoping that the reason Apple hasn't come out with a new version yet is that it really is a grand undertaking to come up with an Office bundle that not only catches up with MS Office, but leaves it in the dust.
  • Reply 182 of 192
    admactaniumadmactanium Posts: 812member
    hmm. i'd guess that apple is probably working on an office suite just as a contingency plan. i doubt they'd try to take on microsoft office for x directly. it simply has too much brand recognition and it would take a lot of effort to convince people that they could use the apple office suite and still interoperate with microsoft office. the compatability between pc and mac office suites is of paramount importance. but i'd be very surprised if they weren't working on appleworks to some degree just as a hedge.



    it really wouldn't be smart of them to try to displace office, incur the wrath of microsoft and put any enterprise plans they MAY have at jeopardy just to spite microsoft.
  • Reply 183 of 192
    hyperb0lehyperb0le Posts: 142member
    Well, for anyone who wants to know, I'm currently working on a Cocoa word processor that basically is Keynote for word processing. So, if Apple isn't working on one, don't despair, because one is coming .
  • Reply 184 of 192
    macaddict16macaddict16 Posts: 194member
    Is it possible to export the audio notes from notebook mode to eaither burn on a CD or put on an iPod?



    Macaddict16
  • Reply 185 of 192
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by admactanium

    hmm. i'd guess that apple is probably working on an office suite just as a contingency plan. i doubt they'd try to take on microsoft office for x directly. it simply has too much brand recognition and it would take a lot of effort to convince people that they could use the apple office suite and still interoperate with microsoft office. the compatability between pc and mac office suites is of paramount importance. but i'd be very surprised if they weren't working on appleworks to some degree just as a hedge.



    it really wouldn't be smart of them to try to displace office, incur the wrath of microsoft and put any enterprise plans they MAY have at jeopardy just to spite microsoft.




    The Apple Office / iOffice / AppleWorks successor situation is something that, every once in a while, I just sit and puzzle over. Clearly, Apple was considering going down the Apple Office route at some point, when they hired the team that originally made BeProductive suite (for the BeOS). That was over two years ago (IIRC)...



    Since then, AppleWorks has remained on bare-bones life support, and nothing has happened. Did Apple abandon the whole project, reading MS's folding of the new IE6 for Mac engine into MSN as a warning sign? Did the work begun on an Apple WP get instead folded into Panther's text engine, with it's basic .doc support? Is Apple still working on consumer-level "Works" suite, or staying far out of MS's way? It's all wild speculation.



    Seems to me that the most strategic decision would be to work on a very consumer-friendly, basic "Works" suite, with lots of interesting features, Apple-style ease-of-use and polish, and as-good-as-possible Office compatibility... as a replacement to the aging and clunky AppleWorks. (Perhaps it could even make use of some the Office-compatability parts from KOffice or OpenOffice.) Should MS ever slash its Mac development for Office, this suite could then be expanded into a full Office version.



    Where Keynote fits into the whole thing I'm not sure. Clearly Keynote was an experiment to see how many people would bite at an Apple-style Office application. I'm not sure exactly what the results were, and what Apple learned from it.



    Perhaps we'll find out more next MWSF, but who knows.
  • Reply 186 of 192
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by hyperb0le

    Well, for anyone who wants to know, I'm currently working on a Cocoa word processor that basically is Keynote for word processing. So, if Apple isn't working on one, don't despair, because one is coming .



    Sounds good.



    Footnotes, margins, dictionary, .doc compatibility...?
  • Reply 187 of 192
    carson o'geniccarson o'genic Posts: 1,278member
    It came up in a previous thread that since Adobe killed Framemaker, that an Apple version of word may be more targeted at the page layout crowd than at the pure text document crowd. Something in between MS Word and InDesign/Quark. It would be a delicate act to sell it as neither a competitor to either of these but rather as a new product to fill a niche. Maybe aimed at the SOHO crowd.



    As a scientist, I mainly write papers and grants, and for this placing figures into the text (grants) is important. This is old hat, did it back in MS Word 5, but I have to say if anything MS has made it less simple over the years. Certainly no improvements.



    Then again, Apple is slowly pouncing on the Entiprise ball and offering their version of Office for the cost of the computer would be good for switchers. I think if you add in the cost of MS Office to going Mac, it really prevents many from switching.
  • Reply 188 of 192
    hyperb0lehyperb0le Posts: 142member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hobbes

    Sounds good.



    Footnotes, margins, dictionary, .doc compatibility...?




    Footnotes: Check

    Margins: Check

    Dictionary: Do you mean spell checking? If so, Check

    .Doc Compatibility: Initially it will use basically the same compatibility conversion that TextEdit uses, but .doc compatibility will be improved for a 1.0.x release
  • Reply 189 of 192
    naderbynaderby Posts: 131member
    Be warned, I'm finding compatibility issues between Office 2004 and Adobe CS.
  • Reply 190 of 192
    othelloothello Posts: 1,053member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by hyperb0le

    Well, for anyone who wants to know, I'm currently working on a Cocoa word processor that basically is Keynote for word processing. So, if Apple isn't working on one, don't despair, because one is coming .



    tables?



    stylesheets?



  • Reply 191 of 192
    sport73sport73 Posts: 438member
    Anyone have success connecting via Exchange 5.5 Server? I can access e-mail via IMAP, but not as an Exchange configuration (same settings).



    Also, anyone have success connecting to LDAP.



    My company runs 5.5, but there is an OWA server that I can log into. How do I set it up to use OWA?
  • Reply 192 of 192
    hyperb0lehyperb0le Posts: 142member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by othello

    tables?



    stylesheets?







    Tables - Yes



    Stylesheets - Not for the first release, but it will be implemented soon after
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