Mac OS X 10.3.3 (Including 7F32)

shallowthroatshallowthroat
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in macOS edited January 2014
hey everyone



I recently had the opportunity to test out the lastest versions of panther on my system and i've had some mixed results. I first installed 7F24, which i did not have much luck with, as it KPed like crazy. however i figured out it was my Revolution 7.1 soundcard (apple did apparently make upgrades to core audio, which probably just fscked the Rev7.1's drivers.) and turning it off made the system pretty stable, i was not however, impressed with it overall. it felt somewhat sluggish. Recently, 7F32 became availiable to me, and so i did not hesitate to try it out. I am running it now, and i have yet to have any KPs, althought i have yet to turn the soundcard back on. it does, however, feel MUCH snappier. here are my X bench results with both builds:



7F24:

Code:




Results90.01

System Info

Xbench Version1.1

System Version10.3.3

Physical RAM1024 MB

ModelPowerMac3,5

ProcessorPowerPC G4 @ 867 MHz

Version7450 (V'ger) v2.1

L1 Cache32K (instruction), 32K (data)

L2 Cache256K @ 867 MHz

L3 Cache2048K @ 217 MHz

Bus Frequency134 MHz

Video CardATY,R350

Drive TypeMaxtor 5T060H6

CPU Test58.41

GCD Recursion98.323.84 Mops/sec

Floating Point Basic107.58382.60 Mflop/sec

AltiVec Basic107.761.57 Gflop/sec

vecLib FFT21.14325.82 Mflop/sec

Floating Point Library104.544.18 Mops/sec

Thread Test75.41

Computation54.28437.31 Kops/sec, 4 threads

Lock Contention123.491.55 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

Memory Test104.79

System125.51

Allocate483.09162.88 Kalloc/sec

Fill93.20741.90 MB/sec

Copy90.06450.30 MB/sec

Stream89.94

Copy90.96370.96 MB/sec [altivec]

Scale90.84377.34 MB/sec [altivec]

Add89.28376.74 MB/sec [altivec]

Triad88.74365.25 MB/sec [altivec]

Quartz Graphics Test133.48

Line119.083.03 Klines/sec [50% alpha]

Rectangle133.179.37 Krects/sec [50% alpha]

Circle134.943.11 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]

Bezier123.161.34 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]

Text166.092.71 Kchars/sec

OpenGL Graphics Test73.97

Spinning Squares73.9751.76 frames/sec

User Interface Test174.75

Elements174.7559.46 refresh/sec









and 7F32:

Code:




Results95.59

System Info

Xbench Version1.1

System Version10.3.3

Physical RAM1024 MB

ModelPowerMac3,5

ProcessorPowerPC G4 @ 867 MHz

Version7450 (V'ger) v2.1

L1 Cache32K (instruction), 32K (data)

L2 Cache256K @ 867 MHz

L3 Cache2048K @ 217 MHz

Bus Frequency134 MHz

Video CardATY,R350

Drive TypeMaxtor 5T060H6

CPU Test71.17

GCD Recursion102.043.98 Mops/sec

Floating Point Basic108.52385.94 Mflop/sec

AltiVec Basic107.991.57 Gflop/sec

vecLib FFT30.87475.73 Mflop/sec

Floating Point Library104.354.18 Mops/sec

Thread Test76.25

Computation54.98442.91 Kops/sec, 4 threads

Lock Contention124.381.56 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

Memory Test104.30

System123.90

Allocate511.59172.49 Kalloc/sec

Fill94.64753.35 MB/sec

Copy85.52427.60 MB/sec

Stream90.05

Copy91.27372.23 MB/sec [altivec]

Scale90.49375.92 MB/sec [altivec]

Add89.87379.24 MB/sec [altivec]

Triad88.61364.69 MB/sec [altivec]

Quartz Graphics Test130.63

Line118.583.02 Klines/sec [50% alpha]

Rectangle119.658.42 Krects/sec [50% alpha]

Circle134.583.10 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]

Bezier123.681.34 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]

Text167.542.73 Kchars/sec

OpenGL Graphics Test79.31

Spinning Squares79.3155.50 frames/sec

User Interface Test173.85

Elements173.8559.15 refresh/sec









notice the great improvements in OpenGL Graphics and the CPU test.



i will do some testing with the sound card later and report back, but so far, looks like a great (and BIG (274megs!) ) update is on the way



-ST
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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 100
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    Posting benchmarks to compare one internal build to another internal build doesn't do anyone but yourself a whole lot of good. Perhaps you should compare with the public 10.3.2 7D24 build...
  • Reply 2 of 100
    costiquecostique Posts: 1,084member
    From what I see in your listing, the CPU test has improved only due to vecLib optimization. Interesting.
  • Reply 3 of 100
    frykefryke Posts: 217member
    Apple has seeded 7F34 now. Read more at http://macintosh.fryke.com/cgi-bin/m...40226_10337f34
  • Reply 4 of 100
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    Must be a slow news day if we're all jizzy about a 0.0.1 update...
  • Reply 5 of 100
    haraldharald Posts: 2,152member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Luca Rescigno

    Must be a slow news day if we're all jizzy about a 0.0.1 update...



    It's a biggun.
  • Reply 6 of 100
    othelloothello Posts: 1,054member
    looking forward to it
  • Reply 7 of 100
    shallowthroatshallowthroat Posts: 78member
    okay, i've had some time to play around with 7F32 and i must say that it is quite good. all the kernal panics i used to get are gone. I tried to recreate many of the KPs i got with 7F24, as they were reproducable, but none came! the sound card seems to be playing quite well with the new OS.



    Brad asked for benchmarks of 10.3.2, and Brad you are right, i probably should have posted them as well, but, heh...i uhh... forget to do them.



    oh well, i hope my this information is still usefull to someone. i'll get my hands on 7F34. and check that one out as well.



    -ST
  • Reply 8 of 100
    codewarriorcodewarrior Posts: 196member
    Do you see any mention of native support for the new Pioneer DVR-107 drive? A kext maybe?
  • Reply 9 of 100
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    10.3.2 is flakier than a box of Mueslix so maybe that's why we're all jizzy, if that's how you'd put it...
  • Reply 10 of 100
    shallowthroatshallowthroat Posts: 78member
    codewarrior, i'm sorry, but no. i searched around fairly extensively for them any sign of pioneer drivers, and i got nothing.\
  • Reply 11 of 100
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aquatic

    10.3.2 is flakier than a box of Mueslix



    Actually, 10.3.2 is one of the most stable versions of Mac OS X I've seen yet. It has not once crashed on me or locked up, nor are there any outstanding funky bugs.
  • Reply 12 of 100
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    It's funkier than Rick James biotch. It won't Hide apps randomly, keyboard commands won't work sometimes, and apps unexpectedly quit all the time. It's the flakiest version I've seen in a while except 10.2.8 but maybe it's just me. The OS itself is rather stable however. I have only EVER seen OS X kernal panic doing SMB in Jaguar. But that's because it's talking to Windows and Windows talks dirty back probably! However unexpectedly quitting apps is almost as bad since you can still lose work. I'll wait as long as I need to for 10.3.3 to not have apps Unexpecedly quit. And selecting in List view in Finder is definitely as funky as Wild Cherry Play that funky Music White Boy!
  • Reply 13 of 100
    mcsjgsmcsjgs Posts: 244member
    Regarding 10.3.3, can this information possibly be right?:



    "but so far, looks like a great (and BIG (274megs!) ) update is on the way"



    Is this a typo? 74MB?
  • Reply 14 of 100
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mcsjgs

    Regarding 10.3.3, can this information possibly be right?:



    "but so far, looks like a great (and BIG (274megs!) ) update is on the way"



    Is this a typo? 74MB?



    I think, rumors circulating some days ago, said that it was around 70-74 MB. Besides, Apple never released an update of this size (i.e. 274 MB).
  • Reply 15 of 100
    kim kap solkim kap sol Posts: 2,987member
    One thing 10.3 solved over 10.2 on my computer is intermittent freezes. I had this weird problem when I had 10.2 that caused me to not sleep at night and spend lots of time on the phone with Apple tech support. Tech support was stumped also.



    I managed to fix the problem by disabling Quartz Extreme and figured it might be a motherboard problem (considering I effectively swapped out every piece of hardware on that computer one by one and as combinations to find the problem and nothing fixed it.)



    The warranty on my computer had run out a week before 10.2 came out so I was really mad that this hardware problem could only be detected using 10.2. Apple refused to fix the computer for free.



    I ran 10.2 with QE disabled for almost 6 months until I got my hands on early builds of 10.3. 10.3 fixed everything...I haven't had a freeze or a panic yet. I didn't feel very guilty illegally downloading the 10.3 builds considering Apple almost screwed me out of large sums of money.



    I did buy 10.3 though once it came out...and it put an end to all my comptuer woes. 10.3.whatever is great.
  • Reply 16 of 100
    mac the forkmac the fork Posts: 722member
    I have to concur with Brad on 10.3.2's stability. It hasn't crashed at all. Application stability has been near perfect.



    It's generally speedy too, although there's one performance issue that I'd like someone to check in the newer system, if possible. When I move any Finder window displaying "read only" or "snap to grid" icons, those icons are continually, redundantly redrawn. This makes window dragging choppy and in any case wastes processor time. I signed up for ADC to report this, but didn't want to waste their time if it had already been fixed. I use an indigo iMac, so this probably doesn't bother the G4/G5/ Schwartz Extreme folks, but Quartz Debug should show the problem clearly.
  • Reply 17 of 100
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by PB

    I think, rumors circulating some days ago, said that it was around 70-74 MB. Besides, Apple never released an update of this size (i.e. 274 MB).



    Well it's 67.8MB as of right now...



    Dave
  • Reply 18 of 100
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Not to go too far OT, but I've had some strange behavior with 10.3.2 (7D24) too. Recently, for no apparent reason, everything froze. The dock didn't work, the clock didn't update, nothing. It was very strange. I had to reboot to get out of it. Even ssh'ing into the machine didn't work. I didn't get a "host not found" error or anything, just a long time of nothing going on. Very odd.
  • Reply 19 of 100
    shallowthroatshallowthroat Posts: 78member
    it's 274, when installed.
  • Reply 20 of 100
    mcsjgsmcsjgs Posts: 244member
    Thanks for clearing that up.
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