Debussey, Bartok, Stravinsky, Beethoven, Mozart, some Wagner(*). I know just enough to be able to pick them out of a crowd. My mother-in-law got me a copy of Strung Out on Radiohead - The String Quartet Tribute to Radiohead for last Xmas (I have *no* idea why), and the first track (Airbag) is so *utterly* reminiscent of Bartok that it's just not funny.
(*) The Seattle Symphony did a free concert day a couple of years ago, covering Warner Bros music pieces. _Ride of the Valkyries_ was done, with *GREAT* gusto, complete with the crowd whooping and hollering. At the end of it, the conductor turned around and addressed the crowd, roughly saying "Thank you! Only in Seattle do people know how to *APPRECIATE* Wagner!" He was drowned out with a thunderous applause and cheer. At the Opera House. I miss that town.
Actually, that's not really true. Film composing is an entirely different thing from "new music" composing. Film composers often don't even do their own orchestrations. Williams doesn't, for example. I'm working on my Masters in Music and I've taken two composition classes with a successful composer. Today's composers often survive through University teaching posts and comissioned works.
Basically, their talents have no commercial value, so they either receive federal funding to compose original pieces or to teach other people to be equally as useless. Which is why I said successful composers.
My wife and I have had a subscription to the National Arts Centre Orchestra here in Ottawa for the last few years. It's been wonderful to hear it live regularly. A good home sound system can reveal the music nicely, but nothing beats the sound live.
We've been lucky the last few years in Ottawa with Pinchas Zukerman as Conductor and Musical Director (and fairly frequent soloist as well) - he really has the Orchestra fired up.
Classical music....music that stands the test of time... music that can stand up for itself without the need for excess baggage...music that can be transposed from a full orchestra to a single acoustic guitar or piano and still retain its essential character...music that is challenging to listen to, that I may not necessarily understand or even enjoy first, second or even third time round....it can be in any format, from a full scale symphony to a 3 minute pop song. My favorite composers: Ives, Stravinsky, Ravel, Debussy, Copland, Grainger, Gershwin, Reich, Adams, .... the list goes on and on!
Speaking of composers of flim music, i find the music of Hans Zimmerman as plesurable as it is wide ranging.
Hans Zimmer.
I enjoy his work as well, along with other film composers working today like Elliot Goldenthal and Howard Shore. I believe we had a thread dedicated to film scores a few months ago.
Any other composers of merit from the 1980's and onward. ?
God, plenty. There's always Arvo Pärt, of course, an Estonian composer who writes intensely spiritual, minimal music that can be very, very beautiful indeed. Go and listen to 'Silentium' on the iTunes store: two violins, prepared piano, genius. I recommend his 'Miserere'.
There's also Gavin Bryars, composer of 'Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet', 'The Sinking of the Titanic' and an amazing requiem, 'Cadman Requiem'.
There's not one bad suggestion above. Good show people!
Hassan i Sabbah, danggit man, you pulled the thoughts out of my head... Those are EXCELLENT suggestions for one wanting to broaden his classical music horizons.
I have Gavin Bryars' first two records in the original British vinyl pressings. MAGNIFICENT!!! These are "Dereck Bailey" and of course "The Sinking Of The Titanic". I've been offered a lot of dough for "The Titanic" LP but I'm not selling it.
Aquafire, "the Titanic" has nothing to do with the movies and Rautavaara and Bryars are still composing.
Yeah! I'll buy the Sinking of the Titanic off you.
Fellowship, you really should check out 'Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet' if you don't already know it. As well as being a beautiful piece of music, its composition is a very moving story.
Basically, their talents have no commercial value, so they either receive federal funding to compose original pieces or to teach other people to be equally as useless. Which is why I said successful composers.
Ummm....I'm sorry. I disagree. What does federal funding have to do with anything? They operate on commissioned works for colleges, high schools, professional groups, etc. They do have commerical value. It's very hard to become "successful", but many do. I could easily point to many compsoers for music education (particularly bands) that are quite successful. I agree there is money in TV, movies, etc. I'm telling you though, I personally know some successful composers. For example, I've taken two classes with this man:
Arvo Part is great. Another contemporary composer I would like to mention is someone less known, but who is actually an occasional AI poster: Frederik Magle. Some of his music is here:
I find that contemporary artist John Barry fits my taste... Trevor Rabin is also a rising master of the musical score. Both tend more toward movies, though... The main title from "Enemy of the State" is simply stunning, IMHO.
As for those currently enjoying ambient ground temperature, I'd say Greig, Wagner, and Pachelbel, with a dash of Brother WA Mozart. Handel's Messiah is also a fine work.
I have Gavin Bryars' first two records in the original British vinyl pressings. MAGNIFICENT!!! These are "Dereck Bailey" and of course "The Sinking Of The Titanic". I've been offered a lot of dough for "The Titanic" LP but I'm not selling it.
Much like I'm not selling the cd and 12" of the remixes of Bryars' "Sinking Of The Titanic" by Aphex Twin.
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(*) The Seattle Symphony did a free concert day a couple of years ago, covering Warner Bros music pieces. _Ride of the Valkyries_ was done, with *GREAT* gusto, complete with the crowd whooping and hollering. At the end of it, the conductor turned around and addressed the crowd, roughly saying "Thank you! Only in Seattle do people know how to *APPRECIATE* Wagner!" He was drowned out with a thunderous applause and cheer. At the Opera House. I miss that town.
Originally posted by SDW2001
Actually, that's not really true. Film composing is an entirely different thing from "new music" composing. Film composers often don't even do their own orchestrations. Williams doesn't, for example. I'm working on my Masters in Music and I've taken two composition classes with a successful composer. Today's composers often survive through University teaching posts and comissioned works.
Basically, their talents have no commercial value, so they either receive federal funding to compose original pieces or to teach other people to be equally as useless. Which is why I said successful composers.
We've been lucky the last few years in Ottawa with Pinchas Zukerman as Conductor and Musical Director (and fairly frequent soloist as well) - he really has the Orchestra fired up.
I still listen to his "Regarding Henry" material. If some of you haven't heard it, then go out an buy it or borrow it from a friend.
Make sure to put it on when you want to relax and let go of a few stresses. ( great wine glass / feet up reading a book type music )
Originally posted by Aquafire
Speaking of composers of flim music, i find the music of Hans Zimmerman as plesurable as it is wide ranging.
Hans Zimmer.
I enjoy his work as well, along with other film composers working today like Elliot Goldenthal and Howard Shore. I believe we had a thread dedicated to film scores a few months ago.
Originally posted by Aquafire
Other than Glass.
Any other composers of merit from the 1980's and onward. ?
God, plenty. There's always Arvo Pärt, of course, an Estonian composer who writes intensely spiritual, minimal music that can be very, very beautiful indeed. Go and listen to 'Silentium' on the iTunes store: two violins, prepared piano, genius. I recommend his 'Miserere'.
There's also Gavin Bryars, composer of 'Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet', 'The Sinking of the Titanic' and an amazing requiem, 'Cadman Requiem'.
They're good.
Hassan i Sabbah, danggit man, you pulled the thoughts out of my head... Those are EXCELLENT suggestions for one wanting to broaden his classical music horizons.
I have Gavin Bryars' first two records in the original British vinyl pressings. MAGNIFICENT!!! These are "Dereck Bailey" and of course "The Sinking Of The Titanic". I've been offered a lot of dough for "The Titanic" LP but I'm not selling it.
Aquafire, "the Titanic" has nothing to do with the movies and Rautavaara and Bryars are still composing.
Bravo people!
Fellowship, you really should check out 'Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet' if you don't already know it. As well as being a beautiful piece of music, its composition is a very moving story.
EDUCATION:
Undergraduate: Cleveland Institute of Music - Cerones, Paul Kantor.
Also studied with James Lyon, William dePasquale.
http://www.clevelandpops.com/winner2000.htm
Originally posted by Ganondorf
Basically, their talents have no commercial value, so they either receive federal funding to compose original pieces or to teach other people to be equally as useless. Which is why I said successful composers.
Ummm....I'm sorry. I disagree. What does federal funding have to do with anything? They operate on commissioned works for colleges, high schools, professional groups, etc. They do have commerical value. It's very hard to become "successful", but many do. I could easily point to many compsoers for music education (particularly bands) that are quite successful. I agree there is money in TV, movies, etc. I'm telling you though, I personally know some successful composers. For example, I've taken two classes with this man:
http://www.presser.com/Composers/inf...e=ROBERTMAGGIO
Wonderful pianist and very beautiful.
she's on iTMS
www.helenegrimaud.com
I'm in love....
http://www.magle.dk/
Originally posted by stevegongrui
Anyone here a Hélène Grimaud?
Wonderful pianist and very beautiful.
she's on iTMS
www.helenegrimaud.com
I'm in love....
Good looks don't hurt, even in classical music.
Originally posted by Chinney
Good looks don't hurt, even in classical music.
Helene Grimaud only love her wolfs.
Originally posted by Chinney
Good looks don't hurt, even in classical music.
She's also an amazing person with a great personality.
I stayed up till 6 am the other day just so i could listen to her live on the french RTL radio.
Marvelous. Stunning.
I'm going to buy her book as soon as I go back to Italy.
Originally posted by Powerdoc
Helene Grimaud only love her wolfs.
How do I apply for one of those positions?
As for those currently enjoying ambient ground temperature, I'd say Greig, Wagner, and Pachelbel, with a dash of Brother WA Mozart. Handel's Messiah is also a fine work.
Originally posted by Powerdoc
Helene Grimaud only love her wolfs.
Yeah, she is crazy about them. She gets so excited talking about them in the radio interview.
If anyone's interested I wiretapped it. It's in French.
Originally posted by hardhead
I have Gavin Bryars' first two records in the original British vinyl pressings. MAGNIFICENT!!! These are "Dereck Bailey" and of course "The Sinking Of The Titanic". I've been offered a lot of dough for "The Titanic" LP but I'm not selling it.
Much like I'm not selling the cd and 12" of the remixes of Bryars' "Sinking Of The Titanic" by Aphex Twin.
Anyone listen to Stockhausen?