.mac spam is out of hand

in Mac Software edited January 2014
Seems that over the past month the spam thats been hitting my .mac address has been growing. I got at least 10+ emails yesterday for various sex-aids and random word messages.

Now normally I wouldn't pointing any fingers, I've had this account since Mac OS 9 so I expect I've been added to quite a lists over the years. The annoying thing is that most of these that i've been getting aren't specifically addressed to me. They are to another .mac address that is alphabeticlaly very similar to mine. If you then look at the headers, its just a big list of .mac addresses in alphabetical order. WTH? How did someone get hold of this list? Really ticks me off.

They are also being sent with no ADV in the subject line, and half the opt-outs are 404. I've been forwarding all these to abuse@mac.com and hope Apple is working to do something about it, but somehow I doubt it. I really wish they would take legal action on all the idiot spammers out there harrassign their customers.

Has anyone else noticed increased .mac spam?


  • Reply 1 of 42
    Nope. I get one or two items a week max. I've had the same iTools/.Mac e-mail account since the very day it was introduced those many years ago. On that note, are you using Mail's junk mail feature to filter some of them out?

    More than likely, you just have an easy name for spammers to figure out. Sending messages en masse to users via a name generator is the oldest trick in the spammer's book. They've been doing it for years.

    Reminders for future e-mail usage (not directed to you specifically):
    • Create a unique name. A random hash of letters and numbers is best, but a combination of odd words does well too. Translating your name to "leet" is another good one. This will help reduce the likelihood of a name generator catching you.

    • Disable image loading in your Mail program. Images in HTML e-mails can be linked to server-side scripts that, when loaded, will remember that your e-mail address is a valid and active account and open for future spamming.

    • Never post your primary e-mail address online or in forms online unless you know absolutely that it will be kept private. If you have to enter an e-mail address to download a program or read an ezine or something, create a junk hotmail account solely for that purpose.

    • Never participate in those e-mail forwarding/chain-letter things. If someone forwards you something, immediately tell them to STOP sending you that crap. Every single person that receives that forwarded e-mail from him and then from all of those people, etc. will have your e-mail address. Eventually, it will get to a spammer, e-mail harvester, or virus-infected PC that will cause you trouble.

  • Reply 2 of 42
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member

    half the opt-outs are 404

    Are you clicking on the opt out link? This is the easiest way for a spammer to know you're a good email address. Don't ever do that. Ever.

    Chances are, that 404 message is linked to a database that tells the spammer "hey, this address is real!" Never EVER click on a link in a spam email.
  • Reply 3 of 42
    airslufairsluf Posts: 1,861member
    Kickaha and Amorph couldn't moderate themselves out of a paper bag. Abdicate responsibility and succumb to idiocy. Two years of letting a member make personal attacks against others, then stepping aside when someone won't put up with it. Not only that but go ahead and shut down my posting priviledges but not the one making the attacks. Not even the common decency to abide by their warning (afer three days of absorbing personal attacks with no mods in sight), just shut my posting down and then say it might happen later if a certian line is crossed. Bullshit flag is flying, I won't abide by lying and coddling of liars who go off-site, create accounts differing in a single letter from my handle with the express purpose to decieve and then claim here that I did it. Everyone be warned, kim kap sol is a lying, deceitful poster.

    Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.

    Don't worry, as soon as my work resetting my posts is done I'll disappear forever.
  • Reply 4 of 42
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    I really wish the whole spam/telemarketing/junk mail thing was the other way around: if you WANT this stuff, you have to do something to receive it (let the companies know, fill out a form saying "yes, deluge me with endless piles of crap", etc.).

    Here I am, living my life and so forth, and I have to go out of my way to sign up for "do not call" registries, activiate spam/junk mail filters, wade through 19 pieces of "ONE DAY ONLY MATTRESS LIQUIDATION" flyers in my mail to get any real mail, etc.

    By default, none of should be subject to bugging, annoyance, harrassment, etc.

    If I want record-low refinancing, 6 more inches of "thicker, stronger penis", or see barely legal Asian lesbian housewives, I'll come to you, asshole.

  • Reply 5 of 42
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    I have a mac.com addy which is not in l33t or not a random jumble of characters. I get no spam on that one at all. Don't publish your private e-mail address anywhere and revel in the non-spammedness of your account.
  • Reply 6 of 42
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    I do too, and I get almost none (my above tirade was mostly at telemarketing/junk mail, but a few pieces of spam slip through...and I know that I can't give my e-mail out at a legitimate place because who knows where it'll wind up.

    It's just sad that, again, I have to go through the hassle of setting up a stupid Hotmail or Yahoo account just so I can enter an e-mail at a site.

    When I check those accounts once every few weeks, there are 300 pieces of porn/financial/marketing spam crammed in there.

    My .Mac account, thankfull, is pretty righteous and spam-free.

    And it's nothing clever...most of you can probably guess it.. Ahem...
  • Reply 7 of 42
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    said it before, i'll say it again. spammers make legit email marketing nigh-useless. i have worked in this field for the past several years, but when we put unsubscribe links in our e-mails, they actually work. problem is, advice like "never click unsubscribes" gets around, and then everyone assumes that everyone's guilty.

    the only ways to get e-mail back to the ones who DON'T abuse it are:

    never subscribe for anything that you don't want

    read all pertinent privacy policies

    make sure nothing is checked that shouldn't be

    if you have domain names, make sure your main e-mail account is NOT listed on the registration info.

    do not use a standard "mailto:" link for your address on a web site (some harvesters are savvy to javascript tricks, but railheaddesign's spamstopper is still better than nothing)

    if talking to someone verbally, NEVER give out your e-mail unless you specifically tell them to not give out your e-mail address to third parties. they WILL do this by default (citibank tried to do this on me, and i told her "don't give it out to anyone outside citibank," and THEN she made that modification -- i shudder to think how many e-mails i would get if i hadn't caught that)

    you can leave on html e-mails (they're not friggin' evil), but turn OFF the preview pane in your e-mail client. that way you can delete e-mails without loading them.
  • Reply 8 of 42
    dviantdviant Posts: 483member
    Yeah I think why it bugs me so much is that I use the .mac web mail a lot, which has no junk mail filter. Ugh.

    I generally only opt-out of things I get multiple mails from over time, i.e. the bastards don't give up. But really Tori, the easiest way to see if an email address is valid is just to see if you get a bounced mail. No tricky 404 page necessary.

    These aren't all directed at me specifically so much as a group of .mac addresses. Most of the time my address isn't even the main one being sent too, me and a big list of .mac's are bcc'd on them. I'm guessing it what Brad said, probably some kind of name generator.

    Bleh. Die spammers die!!

    If only states would actually ENFORCE existing spam laws!!
  • Reply 9 of 42

    Originally posted by dviant

    the easiest way to see if an email address is valid is just to see if you get a bounced mail. No tricky 404 page necessary.

    There's a difference between a valid email address and an email address that you know someone is reading the mail for. That's what these webbugs, as I believe they are called, are designed to find out.
  • Reply 10 of 42
    ionyzionyz Posts: 491member
    I use my .Mac account practically everywhere on the net, yet I receive almost no spam on it. My web hosting company OTOH, 10 so far today. And I only use that e-mail on an educational site. \

    Not using Mail either, no filters or everything. If the mail servers let it come through, its going through.
  • Reply 11 of 42
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    I get no spam on my .Mac email address, except for various newsletters that I signed up for years ago and am too lazy to unsubscribe to.

    OTOH, email address that I get from my ISP offers SpamAssassin and Graymail(Thank you Sonic.net!), so I see none on that account.

    There is one feature I would like to see added to Mail.app. I'd love to see a rule where I can set some emails to load images and some to not. For example I get a few newsletters that use images, and I send those to a seperate folder. By default, no messages load images, but I'd like to be able to set those newsletters to automatically load images without having to click on a seperate button.
  • Reply 12 of 42
    cakecake Posts: 1,010member
    I get tons of spam because I signed up to too many forums like this one and my .mac account is my name with a number one after it - very simple.

    I get about 15-20 spams a day, but the filter catches almost all of them. No big deal. Just an annoyance.
  • Reply 13 of 42
    dfryerdfryer Posts: 140member
    In the last few weeks I have seen an increase (from near zero) of spam for "V1A-G-rA" and other products to my (non-.mac) email address. However, the start coincided with one of the recent windows virii, which infected the computer of someone who apparently knows me. (since their infected computer was forging emails with my name on them)

    The random words are to defeat bayesian spam filters, but it can't be too hard to detect messages with a large percentage of garbled words.
  • Reply 14 of 42
    homhom Posts: 1,098member
    I rarely get spam in my Dot Mac account. When I do, I just bounce it.

    Maybe I'm just lucky.
  • Reply 15 of 42
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member

    Originally posted by Brad

    [BTranslating your name to "leet" is another good one. This will help reduce the likelihood of a name generator catching you... [/B]


    I don't have a .mac account, I actually use a free email and don't get any spam. Not a single piece. If I sign up for it, I get it, but I can always unsubscribe because it's not spam, it's legitimate stuff. I just use a little precaution before giving my email to web sites.

    I never partake in those web chain emails, and always tell the person to stop, but that is just because I find them annoying.

    The only thing I get is the rare blank email from an @aol.com account.

    While the spam filter in mail works very well (I know from my parents/family account) I don't see that it is a good problem solver, just a temporary solution. I don't know what can be done but something should.

    It should work the same way any service does, residential gets say 5,000 emails a month to be sent, maybe more even. But businesses need to register to be able to mass email so that if they abuse their emailing privileges by not really taking you off a list, than they get in trouble. I guess over the residential limit that I could live with gates' $.01/email but who does that money go to?
  • Reply 16 of 42
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    I wish that Apple would use a blacklist server.
  • Reply 17 of 42
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Jeez! Today has been a spam-full day. 45 messages and counting. Ridiculous. mail.app's junk filter is working well, but it's out of hand today. Maybe it's time for a new email address....
  • Reply 18 of 42
    kennethkenneth Posts: 832member

    Originally posted by torifile

    Jeez! Today has been a spam-full day. 45 messages and counting. Ridiculous. mail.app's junk filter is working well, but it's out of hand today. Maybe it's time for a new email address....

    You are not alone! I remembered that I had the same thing in the past month or two. I think it is just a weird day. Normally, I don't get more than 10 spam /day on my .Mac account.
  • Reply 19 of 42
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member

    Originally posted by Kenneth

    You are not alone! I remembered that I had the same thing in the past month or two. I think it is just a weird day. Normally, I don't get more than 10 spam /day on my .Mac account.

    Up to 75!!! today. Unbelievable. I don't know what's going on. Usually, I'm at around 6 or 7. I hope this isn't the beginning of a trend. This is outrageous.
  • Reply 20 of 42
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    AI is probably selling your address.

    Or it's Google which has eyes everywhere, including in the ads here.

    BTw, every so often, it's good to re-train your junk mail filter for a few days. The spammers get crafty and a few more slip between the cracks as time goes on.

    My .Mac e-mail gets spam all the time, but I know it's my fault for using the address willy-nilly on the net.
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