It's 0.66lbs [11 oz], has 4 hour battery life (2 movies), a full 3.5" color screen, and integrated video-out.
Why can't Apple do something like this? Sony has shown that it is possible.
Now this product is about twice as heavy as the current iPod, but I'm sure Apple could work it's magic and reduce the size/weight under 8oz [eg to the original iPods' specs]. Apple could also add a low-power audio-only mode for music which the Sony seems to lack.
Something people need to step back and look at is? how many times are you walking around during the day and you say to your self "wow i really wish i could watch a movie while doing this walking crap"? most mini-vans have DVD players and SUVs too so the millions of people with those don't need one. A regular iPod works because i mean i always walk around with some tune stuck in my head and i either want to hear that tune or replace with another?iPod is also good for jogging and other things that are physical, but a ViDEOiPod would not work for jogging or bike riding and i'd personally feel weird taking the "T" in boston while watching a movie(music iPods work on the "T")
I totally agree, the videoPod isn't popular due to human nature, not a lack of technology.
A near audiophile experience can be had with a portable music device. A theater experience can never be had on a tiny screen. Add on top of this that the audiophile experience can be enjoyed while accomplishing some other task while enjoying video requires nearly constant, complete attention.
Not to belabor this and this is the last time I'll say this because I would not be a big vPod fan anyway, but
IT IS NOT ABOUT A "...THEATER EXPERIENCE..."!
IT IS NOT ABOUT "...JOGGING AND RIDING..."!
People will be using them on the T in Boston once the first few people do. Don't you remember how everyone thought how impolite the Walkman wearers seemed at first? Get out of the box. It won't be nearly as big as music only for a long, long, long time, but it isn't supposed to be and it doesn't need to be.
And dfiler, human nature changes all of the time when it comes to entertainment...maybe not in other things, but how many people thought 20 years ago (heck 10 years ago) that we would be spending time doing the enjoyable act of typing on a keyboard for hours on end when the phone was the "obviously" preferable experience for human communication. Until good graphics happened, the internet was boring and made sense only to 0.07% of the population. Would you have told Apple not to work on vRAM? Would you have told the Mosaic guys to stop wasting time on software?
The R&D is obviously going the mobile multimedia/communications direction and the challenge is when do you bring solutions to market. I don't know what the financial sweet spot is for Apple or anyone else. I don't think it is this new Sony thing, but it will happen eventually, just like laptops happened eventually (my gosh work on a computer while on a plane??? No one will do that!) so I hope Apple is there with hardware and software when it happens or the Microsoft hegemony will continue to grow....so much for Sun right!?
Not to belabor this and this is the last time I'll say this because I would not be a big vPod fan anyway, but
IT IS NOT ABOUT A "...THEATER EXPERIENCE..."!
IT IS NOT ABOUT "...JOGGING AND RIDING..."!
People will be using them on the T in Boston once the first few people do. Don't you remember how everyone thought how impolite the Walkman wearers seemed at first? Get out of the box. It won't be nearly as big as music only for a long, long, long time, but it isn't supposed to be and it doesn't need to be.
And dfiler, human nature changes all of the time when it comes to entertainment...maybe not in other things, but how many people thought 20 years ago (heck 10 years ago) that we would be spending time doing the enjoyable act of typing on a keyboard for hours on end when the phone was the "obviously" preferable experience for human communication. Until good graphics happened, the internet was boring and made sense only to 0.07% of the population. Would you have told Apple not to work on vRAM? Would you have told the Mosaic guys to stop wasting time on software?
The R&D is obviously going the mobile multimedia/communications direction and the challenge is when do you bring solutions to market. I don't know what the financial sweet spot is for Apple or anyone else. I don't think it is this new Sony thing, but it will happen eventually, just like laptops happened eventually (my gosh work on a computer while on a plane??? No one will do that!) so I hope Apple is there with hardware and software when it happens or the Microsoft hegemony will continue to grow....so much for Sun right!?
Pax
hmmmm???false???do you ever say that you need more TV in your life??? i have way too much and i watch less than an hour on workdays???false then wrong but now this is stupid
survey says??oh thats too bad 3 Xes for the MacGregor's join us next time whenn the Seely's take on another looser
People will be using them on the T in Boston once the first few people do. Don't you remember how everyone thought how impolite the Walkman wearers seemed at first? Get out of the box. It won't be nearly as big as music only for a long, long, long time, but it isn't supposed to be and it doesn't need to be.
People listen to music and read newspapers and magazines and books on subways all the time. They have for as long as there have been subways. There has never been anything rude about it. The issue here, again, is the quality of the experience. Walkmen and iPods are unobtrusive and convenient. Books and magazines are unobtrusive and convenient. Each is well suited to doing what it does well.
A 3.5" video screen does very little well. There are worlds of difference between reading a book and squinting at a moving postage stamp, and that difference is critical.
Quality of implementation matters.
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And dfiler, human nature changes all of the time when it comes to entertainment...maybe not in other things, but how many people thought 20 years ago (heck 10 years ago) that we would be spending time doing the enjoyable act of typing on a keyboard for hours on end when the phone was the "obviously" preferable experience for human communication.
Not my family, who have preferred letters (often typed) to phones for as long as phones have existed. Email was, if anything, merely a different version of a medium we all preferred anyway. Even my 80+ year old grandmother has taken more naturally to email than she ever did to phones.
What matters is what people enjoy doing, and what matters technologically is how good the technology is at making something natural and enjoyable. Again, the question is: How good is video on a 3.5" screen? We've had those little tiny TVs and DVD players for a very long time now, and who uses them?
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Until good graphics happened, the internet was boring and made sense only to 0.07% of the population. Would you have told Apple not to work on vRAM? Would you have told the Mosaic guys to stop wasting time on software?
Would you say that a computer monitor is as adequate to displaying web content as a 3.5" screen is to displaying video? That's the question. It has nothing to do with new technology, because tiny video screens are decades old. It has to do with quality of implementation, period.
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I don't think it is this new Sony thing, but it will happen eventually, just like laptops happened eventually (my gosh work on a computer while on a plane??? No one will do that!)
People were making portable computers in the '70s. The vision was always there, and the demand was always there. It just took a while for the technology to allow svelte laptops instead of 40-pound "portables."
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Originally posted by Existence
Sony's video iPod.
http://www.dynamism.com/hvp20/
It's 0.66lbs [11 oz], has 4 hour battery life (2 movies), a full 3.5" color screen, and integrated video-out.
Why can't Apple do something like this? Sony has shown that it is possible.
Now this product is about twice as heavy as the current iPod, but I'm sure Apple could work it's magic and reduce the size/weight under 8oz [eg to the original iPods' specs]. Apple could also add a low-power audio-only mode for music which the Sony seems to lack.
Something people need to step back and look at is? how many times are you walking around during the day and you say to your self "wow i really wish i could watch a movie while doing this walking crap"? most mini-vans have DVD players and SUVs too so the millions of people with those don't need one. A regular iPod works because i mean i always walk around with some tune stuck in my head and i either want to hear that tune or replace with another?iPod is also good for jogging and other things that are physical, but a ViDEOiPod would not work for jogging or bike riding and i'd personally feel weird taking the "T" in boston while watching a movie(music iPods work on the "T")
sensitive subject
PS
A near audiophile experience can be had with a portable music device. A theater experience can never be had on a tiny screen. Add on top of this that the audiophile experience can be enjoyed while accomplishing some other task while enjoying video requires nearly constant, complete attention.
IT IS NOT ABOUT A "...THEATER EXPERIENCE..."!
IT IS NOT ABOUT "...JOGGING AND RIDING..."!
People will be using them on the T in Boston once the first few people do. Don't you remember how everyone thought how impolite the Walkman wearers seemed at first? Get out of the box. It won't be nearly as big as music only for a long, long, long time, but it isn't supposed to be and it doesn't need to be.
And dfiler, human nature changes all of the time when it comes to entertainment...maybe not in other things, but how many people thought 20 years ago (heck 10 years ago) that we would be spending time doing the enjoyable act of typing on a keyboard for hours on end when the phone was the "obviously" preferable experience for human communication. Until good graphics happened, the internet was boring and made sense only to 0.07% of the population. Would you have told Apple not to work on vRAM? Would you have told the Mosaic guys to stop wasting time on software?
The R&D is obviously going the mobile multimedia/communications direction and the challenge is when do you bring solutions to market. I don't know what the financial sweet spot is for Apple or anyone else. I don't think it is this new Sony thing, but it will happen eventually, just like laptops happened eventually (my gosh work on a computer while on a plane??? No one will do that!) so I hope Apple is there with hardware and software when it happens or the Microsoft hegemony will continue to grow....so much for Sun right!?
Pax
Originally posted by MacGregor
Not to belabor this and this is the last time I'll say this because I would not be a big vPod fan anyway, but
IT IS NOT ABOUT A "...THEATER EXPERIENCE..."!
IT IS NOT ABOUT "...JOGGING AND RIDING..."!
People will be using them on the T in Boston once the first few people do. Don't you remember how everyone thought how impolite the Walkman wearers seemed at first? Get out of the box. It won't be nearly as big as music only for a long, long, long time, but it isn't supposed to be and it doesn't need to be.
And dfiler, human nature changes all of the time when it comes to entertainment...maybe not in other things, but how many people thought 20 years ago (heck 10 years ago) that we would be spending time doing the enjoyable act of typing on a keyboard for hours on end when the phone was the "obviously" preferable experience for human communication. Until good graphics happened, the internet was boring and made sense only to 0.07% of the population. Would you have told Apple not to work on vRAM? Would you have told the Mosaic guys to stop wasting time on software?
The R&D is obviously going the mobile multimedia/communications direction and the challenge is when do you bring solutions to market. I don't know what the financial sweet spot is for Apple or anyone else. I don't think it is this new Sony thing, but it will happen eventually, just like laptops happened eventually (my gosh work on a computer while on a plane??? No one will do that!) so I hope Apple is there with hardware and software when it happens or the Microsoft hegemony will continue to grow....so much for Sun right!?
Pax
hmmmm???false???do you ever say that you need more TV in your life??? i have way too much and i watch less than an hour on workdays???false then wrong but now this is stupid
survey says??oh thats too bad 3 Xes for the MacGregor's join us next time whenn the Seely's take on another looser
PS
Originally posted by MacGregor
People will be using them on the T in Boston once the first few people do. Don't you remember how everyone thought how impolite the Walkman wearers seemed at first? Get out of the box. It won't be nearly as big as music only for a long, long, long time, but it isn't supposed to be and it doesn't need to be.
People listen to music and read newspapers and magazines and books on subways all the time. They have for as long as there have been subways. There has never been anything rude about it. The issue here, again, is the quality of the experience. Walkmen and iPods are unobtrusive and convenient. Books and magazines are unobtrusive and convenient. Each is well suited to doing what it does well.
A 3.5" video screen does very little well. There are worlds of difference between reading a book and squinting at a moving postage stamp, and that difference is critical.
Quality of implementation matters.
And dfiler, human nature changes all of the time when it comes to entertainment...maybe not in other things, but how many people thought 20 years ago (heck 10 years ago) that we would be spending time doing the enjoyable act of typing on a keyboard for hours on end when the phone was the "obviously" preferable experience for human communication.
Not my family, who have preferred letters (often typed) to phones for as long as phones have existed. Email was, if anything, merely a different version of a medium we all preferred anyway. Even my 80+ year old grandmother has taken more naturally to email than she ever did to phones.
What matters is what people enjoy doing, and what matters technologically is how good the technology is at making something natural and enjoyable. Again, the question is: How good is video on a 3.5" screen? We've had those little tiny TVs and DVD players for a very long time now, and who uses them?
Until good graphics happened, the internet was boring and made sense only to 0.07% of the population. Would you have told Apple not to work on vRAM? Would you have told the Mosaic guys to stop wasting time on software?
Would you say that a computer monitor is as adequate to displaying web content as a 3.5" screen is to displaying video? That's the question. It has nothing to do with new technology, because tiny video screens are decades old. It has to do with quality of implementation, period.
I don't think it is this new Sony thing, but it will happen eventually, just like laptops happened eventually (my gosh work on a computer while on a plane??? No one will do that!)
People were making portable computers in the '70s. The vision was always there, and the demand was always there. It just took a while for the technology to allow svelte laptops instead of 40-pound "portables."