There is a new communism that threatens the free world.
I hides behind the moniker ?Progressivism?.
Communism does have shades of progressivism-- I suppose it's one avenue you could take "progressivism" to it's logical conclusion, but there are others. Anyway, communism is a lot more specific than progressivism-- there are many progressives who uphold the free market.
There are many in the left who are, piece by piece, eroding our way of life from behind this mask.
Dastardly communists!
They are trying to destroy our identity as a people.
(Read: anybody but white, male, heterosexual christians)
They move to take God out of our public places,branding Christmas decorations at city hall as a violation of our constitution and wanting ?God? removed from The Pledge of Allegiance?.
Most here don't accept that as necessarily bad. A terrible writer fails to write for his or her audience, so keep that in mind next time. And try thinking about the reasons underlying those views-- like the separation of church and state and such.
They several years ago took the Washington Birthday and Lincoln Birthday observances away from us to be replaced by a generic ?Presidents Day?
This takes away the direct remembrance of those two great men who did so much to make us what and who we are.
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You see, the plan of these new communistsis to to have us FORGET WHO and WHAT we are so that they can mold us into generic members of ?the international community?.
Please stop using "communists" as a pejorative word-- and use it correctly at least if you refuse. Second, "we" are a lot of different people with diverse views. It seems you're the one who wants to lump everyone together as "generic members" of America, extrapolating your white, male, heterosexual, and christian worldview for everyone else.
They want us the be ?Citizens of the World? first and Americans second.
Absolutely. It's time for our nation to take some responsibility for its actions and become a more humble nation.
They defend the gay agenda and the abortion agenda and the porn agenda.
Ah, the insidious "agendas....."
They file at our morals trying to convince us that homosexual marriage is a a good thing then they brand we who oppose such nonsense as ?haters? and ?intolerant?.
I'm sorry, but you can't claim tolerance when you aren't very tolerant. In fact, you should stand tall and loudly proclaim your intolerance! Be proud-- you're an AMERICAN.
Americans must stay vigil against these fiends.
Their desire to to destroy America from within by dissolving its inner fiber.
We outsourced our inner fiber a long time ago-- to Mexico, India, China, Malaysia, etc.
There is a new communism that threatens the free world. I hides behind the moniker ?Progressivism?. There are many in the left who are, piece by piece, eroding our way of life from behind this mask. They are trying to destroy our identity as a people. They move to take God out of our public places,branding Christmas decorations at city hall as a violation of our constitution and wanting ?God? removed from The Pledge of Allegiance?. They several years ago took the Washington Birthday and Lincoln Birthday observances away from us to be replaced by a generic ?Presidents Day? This takes away the direct remembrance of those two great men who did so much to make us what and who we are. You see, the plan of these new communistsis to to have us FORGET WHO and WHAT we are so that they can mold us into generic members of ?the international community?. They want us the be ?Citizens of the World? first and Americans second. They defend the gay agenda and the abortion agenda and the porn agenda. They file at our morals trying to convince us that homosexual marriage is a a good thing then they brand we who oppose such nonsense as ?haters? and ?intolerant?. Americans must stay vigil against these fiends. Their desire to to destroy America from within by dissolving its inner fiber.
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if mem serves, communisum doesnt support gay rights and they definately dont beleve in internationalisum...the dicktator doesnt want the common man to see life outside of communisum.
I like rush but man that is probably the dumbest thing he has ever said, stop copying him.
When I say "Communism" I am not literally referring to the political philosophy of communism. I am using the term to indicate a threat to the American way of life. Soviet communism was the threat of the 1950s -1980s. Today it is this this new politically correct, morally deficient movement. It is a greater threat than terrorism.
Why are you opposed to gay marriage? What's your logic behind it? I was opposed until recently, when I actually took the time to think about it.
As far as the State is concerned, marriage is a legal institution. Along with marriage comes tax benefits, legal ramifications, etc. Why should these things be denied to homosexuals? There's just no rational excuse for that.
This is entirely separate to those who are against gay marriage for moral reasons. As an aside, whether I agree with them or not is completely irrelevant to a governmental decision that should be based on fair economic principles. Back to my point. Say a moral objection is based on religion; then said religion has every right to deny gay marriage. You're confusing religious marriage with legal marriage. Two things occur when a two people get married in a church: (1) the religion is recognizing the bond between the two people and (2) the state has chosen to allow the minister/priest/rabbi/etc. to act as a justice of the peace and legally enter the couple into marriage. Just in case you don't buy this argument, go get married in Catholic Church in Mexico. The Church will recognize the marriage as valid, but the US will not. I know several people that have been married in churches out of the country, and they've all had to visit a justice of the peace in order to establish their legal married status in the US. On the opposite end of the scale, get a divorce. A final decree of divorce in court is completely separate from getting the marriage annulled by your religion. I know lots of people that were legally divorced, but didn't get their marriage annulled by the church. So the state sees them as two single people, but their religion considers them to still be married.
So to sum up, in a religious wedding in the United States, two separate entities are coming together for the sake of expediency. So my argument is that if you want to go preach your morality, do it in your own community. That's your right, and the religious community's right. Leave the larger population, especially those that don't agree with you, alone. For they shouldn't be subject to your religious morality, or the religious morality of anyone else unless they choose to accept those beliefs for themselves.
I can just imagine your annoyance if the image of Krishna, Mohammed or a smiling fat-bellied Buddha appeared at City Hall in whatever city you live. And your irritation would be wholly justified...these religious symbols do not belong in State or Federal facilities, and neither does the cross or any other symbol that specifies a particular faith.
Having observed the death and destruction that accompanied religious persecution in Britain for hundreds of years between catholics and protestants, the founders of America understood that when state and religion are intertwined, the end result is usually ugly. They had the foresight and wisdom to make sure that there was freedom of religion here....hence our constitutional First Amendment. Try to understand that freedom of religion requires freedom from religion. You cannot have one without the other.
They move to take God out of our public places,branding Christmas decorations at city hall as a violation of our constitution and wanting ?God? removed from The Pledge of Allegiance?.
Was your post a copy-and-paste job from Savage Nation?
I agree with the above point whole-heartedly: you should be able to stand for anything you believe in, and display it as such, no matter how false and unprovable that belief may be.
The pledge of Allegiance is possibly the most Communist thing that has ever been present in our country. Forcing grade school children to recite rhetoric that they don't even know the meaning of is creepy. Is our coutry so insecure in its own 'core values' that its citizens will resort to patriotism to feel good about themselves?
As Samuel Johnson once said, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
Arty55: That is exactly how I feel about marriage. I personally would like to be able to reap tax benefits without enduring a Christian ritual.
if mem serves, communisum doesnt support gay rights and they definately dont beleve in internationalisum...the dicktator doesnt want the common man to see life outside of communisum.
I like rush but man that is probably the dumbest thing he has ever said, stop copying him.
A dicktator! Is that like Dick Cheney? He's a real dick! A major league dick!
I am not an expert of Progressivism, but let me point out that Communism was against homosexuality and porn. Communists also pushed very hard on the patriotic thing (remember Gagarine, the olympic sports ...)
Your comparison is irrelevant.
Just to precise things a little, the "Communism" you refer to has nothing to do with "real" Communism. That "Communism" you refer to should be called Stalinism. Calling it "Communism" would just be like saying that Hitler was a socialist because the name of his party was National Socialist! Of course that would be irrelevant as hell!!
And when I talk about "real" Communism, I don't necessarily mean Marxism, but also most of the pre and post-Stalin incarnations of Communism (I said "most" : Mao is not qualified!).
For example, in France, the Communist Party is a pacifist movement that fights for the rights of women, minorities and gays, and that is not into patriotic things AT ALL compared to the French right wing.
Their policy concerning economics is plain nonsense, though.
By the way, sorry Powerdoc, though I quoted your post, I was not mad at you or anything, it's just because your post was the clearest one on the topic!
And please, someone call a doctor for that poor Common Man : his head must have been badly hurt to allow him to say such inept things!
Just to precise things a little, the "Communism" you refer to has nothing to do with "real" Communism. That "Communism" you refer to should be called Stalinism. Calling it "Communism" would just be like saying that Hitler was a socialist because the name of his party was National Socialist! Of course that would be irrelevant as hell!!
And when I talk about "real" Communism, I don't necessarily mean Marxism, but also most of the pre and post-Stalin incarnations of Communism (I said "most" : Mao is not qualified!).
For example, in France, the Communist Party is a pacifist movement that fights for the rights of women, minorities and gays, and that is not into patriotic things AT ALL compared to the French right wing.
Their policy concerning economics is plain nonsense, though.
By the way, sorry Powerdoc, though I quoted your post, I was not mad at you or anything, it's just because your post was the clearest one on the topic!
And please, someone call a doctor for that poor Common Man : his head must have been badly hurt to allow him to say such inept things!
Well, you are right, in 2004.
For the record, the french communist party took his distances with the stalinism lately. Except the politic nonsense, they have evolved greatly the last two decades. The weird thing, that the more they become clear, and balanced, the more votes they lose in favor of the extreme left.
For the record, the french communist party took his distances with the stalinism lately. Except the politic nonsense, they have evolved greatly the last two decades. The weird thing, that the more they become clear, and balanced, the more votes they lose in favor of the extreme left.
Well... basically, the extreme left wants to kill all the upper class, and the extreme right wants to kill the immigrates. It seems that French people love bloodthirsty politicians!
No, more seriously, most French people vote to protest, and since the PC (communist party in France, nothing to do with computers!) has gained trasparency and has cooled down a lot, it is not perceived has the party of protestation...
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Originally posted by Aquatic
so dmz you are now posting as Common Man or what?
no, just took a long break from you knuckleheads
Communism does have shades of progressivism-- I suppose it's one avenue you could take "progressivism" to it's logical conclusion, but there are others. Anyway, communism is a lot more specific than progressivism-- there are many progressives who uphold the free market.
Dastardly communists!
(Read: anybody but white, male, heterosexual christians)
Most here don't accept that as necessarily bad. A terrible writer fails to write for his or her audience, so keep that in mind next time. And try thinking about the reasons underlying those views-- like the separation of church and state and such.
?
Please stop using "communists" as a pejorative word-- and use it correctly at least if you refuse. Second, "we" are a lot of different people with diverse views. It seems you're the one who wants to lump everyone together as "generic members" of America, extrapolating your white, male, heterosexual, and christian worldview for everyone else.
Absolutely. It's time for our nation to take some responsibility for its actions and become a more humble nation.
Ah, the insidious "agendas....."
I'm sorry, but you can't claim tolerance when you aren't very tolerant. In fact, you should stand tall and loudly proclaim your intolerance! Be proud-- you're an AMERICAN.
We outsourced our inner fiber a long time ago-- to Mexico, India, China, Malaysia, etc.
Originally posted by dmz
"Yet why despair! I saw the finger of God go forth\t
Upon my Furnaces, from within the Wheels of Albions Sons
Fixing their Systems, permanent: by mathematic power\t\t
Giving a body to Falshood that it may be cast off for ever."
-William Blake
The irony of dmz quoting the most radical Romantic poet... *heeheehee*
Originally posted by Common Man
There is a new communism that threatens the free world. I hides behind the moniker ?Progressivism?. There are many in the left who are, piece by piece, eroding our way of life from behind this mask. They are trying to destroy our identity as a people. They move to take God out of our public places,branding Christmas decorations at city hall as a violation of our constitution and wanting ?God? removed from The Pledge of Allegiance?. They several years ago took the Washington Birthday and Lincoln Birthday observances away from us to be replaced by a generic ?Presidents Day? This takes away the direct remembrance of those two great men who did so much to make us what and who we are. You see, the plan of these new communistsis to to have us FORGET WHO and WHAT we are so that they can mold us into generic members of ?the international community?. They want us the be ?Citizens of the World? first and Americans second. They defend the gay agenda and the abortion agenda and the porn agenda. They file at our morals trying to convince us that homosexual marriage is a a good thing then they brand we who oppose such nonsense as ?haters? and ?intolerant?. Americans must stay vigil against these fiends. Their desire to to destroy America from within by dissolving its inner fiber.
WAIT>>>>>
if mem serves, communisum doesnt support gay rights and they definately dont beleve in internationalisum...the dicktator doesnt want the common man to see life outside of communisum.
I like rush but man that is probably the dumbest thing he has ever said, stop copying him.
As far as the State is concerned, marriage is a legal institution. Along with marriage comes tax benefits, legal ramifications, etc. Why should these things be denied to homosexuals? There's just no rational excuse for that.
This is entirely separate to those who are against gay marriage for moral reasons. As an aside, whether I agree with them or not is completely irrelevant to a governmental decision that should be based on fair economic principles. Back to my point. Say a moral objection is based on religion; then said religion has every right to deny gay marriage. You're confusing religious marriage with legal marriage. Two things occur when a two people get married in a church: (1) the religion is recognizing the bond between the two people and (2) the state has chosen to allow the minister/priest/rabbi/etc. to act as a justice of the peace and legally enter the couple into marriage. Just in case you don't buy this argument, go get married in Catholic Church in Mexico. The Church will recognize the marriage as valid, but the US will not. I know several people that have been married in churches out of the country, and they've all had to visit a justice of the peace in order to establish their legal married status in the US. On the opposite end of the scale, get a divorce. A final decree of divorce in court is completely separate from getting the marriage annulled by your religion. I know lots of people that were legally divorced, but didn't get their marriage annulled by the church. So the state sees them as two single people, but their religion considers them to still be married.
So to sum up, in a religious wedding in the United States, two separate entities are coming together for the sake of expediency. So my argument is that if you want to go preach your morality, do it in your own community. That's your right, and the religious community's right. Leave the larger population, especially those that don't agree with you, alone. For they shouldn't be subject to your religious morality, or the religious morality of anyone else unless they choose to accept those beliefs for themselves.
Originally posted by ShawnJ
The irony of dmz quoting the most radical Romantic poet... *heeheehee*
Not to mention a complete whacko by many accounts.
So I've gotta go clean the Reds from under the bed again? Sheesh.
Progressives of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
Originally posted by Common Man
Here is an example of the trend that concerns us.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119035,00.html
I can just imagine your annoyance if the image of Krishna, Mohammed or a smiling fat-bellied Buddha appeared at City Hall in whatever city you live. And your irritation would be wholly justified...these religious symbols do not belong in State or Federal facilities, and neither does the cross or any other symbol that specifies a particular faith.
Having observed the death and destruction that accompanied religious persecution in Britain for hundreds of years between catholics and protestants, the founders of America understood that when state and religion are intertwined, the end result is usually ugly. They had the foresight and wisdom to make sure that there was freedom of religion here....hence our constitutional First Amendment. Try to understand that freedom of religion requires freedom from religion. You cannot have one without the other.
Originally posted by Common Man
They move to take God out of our public places,branding Christmas decorations at city hall as a violation of our constitution and wanting ?God? removed from The Pledge of Allegiance?.
Was your post a copy-and-paste job from Savage Nation?
I agree with the above point whole-heartedly: you should be able to stand for anything you believe in, and display it as such, no matter how false and unprovable that belief may be.
The pledge of Allegiance is possibly the most Communist thing that has ever been present in our country. Forcing grade school children to recite rhetoric that they don't even know the meaning of is creepy. Is our coutry so insecure in its own 'core values' that its citizens will resort to patriotism to feel good about themselves?
As Samuel Johnson once said, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
Arty55: That is exactly how I feel about marriage. I personally would like to be able to reap tax benefits without enduring a Christian ritual.
Originally posted by bunge
Standing in the rain makes me wet.
inferior human
WAIT>>>>>
if mem serves, communisum doesnt support gay rights and they definately dont beleve in internationalisum...the dicktator doesnt want the common man to see life outside of communisum.
I like rush but man that is probably the dumbest thing he has ever said, stop copying him.
A dicktator! Is that like Dick Cheney? He's a real dick! A major league dick!
Originally posted by Powerdoc
I am not an expert of Progressivism, but let me point out that Communism was against homosexuality and porn. Communists also pushed very hard on the patriotic thing (remember Gagarine, the olympic sports ...)
Your comparison is irrelevant.
Just to precise things a little, the "Communism" you refer to has nothing to do with "real" Communism. That "Communism" you refer to should be called Stalinism. Calling it "Communism" would just be like saying that Hitler was a socialist because the name of his party was National Socialist! Of course that would be irrelevant as hell!!
And when I talk about "real" Communism, I don't necessarily mean Marxism, but also most of the pre and post-Stalin incarnations of Communism (I said "most" : Mao is not qualified!).
For example, in France, the Communist Party is a pacifist movement that fights for the rights of women, minorities and gays, and that is not into patriotic things AT ALL compared to the French right wing.
Their policy concerning economics is plain nonsense, though.
By the way, sorry Powerdoc, though I quoted your post, I was not mad at you or anything, it's just because your post was the clearest one on the topic!
And please, someone call a doctor for that poor Common Man : his head must have been badly hurt to allow him to say such inept things!
Originally posted by The One to Rescue
Just to precise things a little, the "Communism" you refer to has nothing to do with "real" Communism. That "Communism" you refer to should be called Stalinism. Calling it "Communism" would just be like saying that Hitler was a socialist because the name of his party was National Socialist! Of course that would be irrelevant as hell!!
And when I talk about "real" Communism, I don't necessarily mean Marxism, but also most of the pre and post-Stalin incarnations of Communism (I said "most" : Mao is not qualified!).
For example, in France, the Communist Party is a pacifist movement that fights for the rights of women, minorities and gays, and that is not into patriotic things AT ALL compared to the French right wing.
Their policy concerning economics is plain nonsense, though.
By the way, sorry Powerdoc, though I quoted your post, I was not mad at you or anything, it's just because your post was the clearest one on the topic!
And please, someone call a doctor for that poor Common Man : his head must have been badly hurt to allow him to say such inept things!
Well, you are right, in 2004.
For the record, the french communist party took his distances with the stalinism lately. Except the politic nonsense, they have evolved greatly the last two decades. The weird thing, that the more they become clear, and balanced, the more votes they lose in favor of the extreme left.
Originally posted by Powerdoc
Well, you are right, in 2004.
For the record, the french communist party took his distances with the stalinism lately. Except the politic nonsense, they have evolved greatly the last two decades. The weird thing, that the more they become clear, and balanced, the more votes they lose in favor of the extreme left.
Well... basically, the extreme left wants to kill all the upper class, and the extreme right wants to kill the immigrates. It seems that French people love bloodthirsty politicians!
No, more seriously, most French people vote to protest, and since the PC (communist party in France, nothing to do with computers!) has gained trasparency and has cooled down a lot, it is not perceived has the party of protestation...
Originally posted by FormerLurker
My cat's breath smells like cat food!
That's umpossible.
Originally posted by talksense101
I salute common man for bringing comedy back to AO.
Tits. That's always been my job.