What do you need to adjust? It's a screen. I have PowerMac there is no adjustment. It's right in front of you. Tell me, how often do you adjust your TV?
I'm a web developer, and when clients come in, it is very nice to be able to adjust the monitor to face the client, so they don't have to crane their head.
Yes, in a perfect world, you would have two monitors, with one facing the client. But, can't afford that yet.
I have to agree with PB. The fact is that Apple moved the iMac past its original design. The same design that the eMac took over.
The innovation of design must move forward. I believe that the eMac will take a design closer to the one at MacKompass, since it has retained the 'componets behind the screen' design.
The iMac has moved forward. It is still an AIO, but the componets are no longer directly behind the screen. It is more ergonomical, yes, and I believe that it will stay that way.
We all know that the iMac is being redesigned. eMacs are low in the channel, too, due to there being no iMacs to sell. This has to be for a reason.
I think everything's happening in Europe this year, guys!!
That Macompass design, while "sexy" would be very unstable on a desktop. It wouldn't take much to tip it over. It also doesn't seem to allow for a tilt stand, which you can purchase for the eMac. An eMac re-design would never look like that. The current eMac is easy to manufacture compared to the current iMac (and next generation no doubt) and would need to remain that way to keep the price down. Ease of manufacture, means plenty of room for assembly within and not the kind of tight spaces that design would require.
I hate the Macompass design to be honest. It looks dainty and fragile. Also I think whoever designed it has the depth off. It does not seem to have the space required to enclose a HDD, optical drive, processor and cooling.
The computer the coolest of cool teeny poppers will own this year.
Come on Apple! Whatcha waiting for!
Well, it shares all the shortcomings of the alleged next generation iMac.
No upgradeability beyond memory. 1.5GHz Pentium M, AIO, no mention of specific graphics so I imagine something integrated or FX5200 class chip, and $1699 price.
If that is the competition then I'll take the iMac in a heartbeat.
On an aesthetic note, I would prefer to have my balls pounded flat with a wooden mallet than use that thing.
Then, earlier today, I went back to the rear 3D drawing above, scooped this, beveled that, deepened this, etc.
Yes, the "guts" are housed in the vertical "slab" block behind the display (minus the optical drive, which is up front of course, along with a power button, USB, FireWire and maybe a headphone jack).
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
Then, earlier today, I went back to the rear 3D drawing above, scooped this, beveled that, deepened this, etc.
Yes, the "guts" are housed in the vertical "slab" block behind the display (minus the optical drive, which is up front of course, along with a power button, USB, FireWire and maybe a headphone jack).
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
Anyway...
I admire your artistic skill, but I don't like that design either. It's like an eMac on Atkins
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on"...
More that than anything...and to show an idea for screen mobility, inspired by the new Cinema Displays, but taken a step further (some side-to-side swivel action).
Yeah, it might pooch out the back some...but it's not anywhere near as deep as a 20" CRT would be. Knock it off.
And it's one 3-4" wide slab, which the user never even sees. Unless someone is just going to sit beside it all day and stare at the side and lament how "far back it goes", who cares? It's not as deep as an eMac, even.
eMac on Atkins? Nice.
I kinda like it, particularly the second "scooped" version. It grew on me. In any case, I'd rather see that approach rather than an ugly thickening of an LCD by piggyback everything onto the back of it. At that point, why bother? A 4-5" deep LCD that weighs 20lbs.? No thanks! Besides, doesn't that go against everything Steve himself said in the keynote unveiling the iMac G4?
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
As you have it, the display is mounted rather than the components. I do like it, though.
More that than anything...and to show an idea for screen mobility, inspired by the new Cinema Displays, but taken a step further (some side-to-side swivel action).
Yeah, it might pooch out the back some...but it's not anywhere near as deep as a 20" CRT would be. Knock it off.
And it's one 3-4" wide slab, which the user never even sees. Unless someone is just going to sit beside it all day and stare at the side and lament how "far back it goes", who cares? It's not as deep as an eMac, even.
eMac on Atkins? Nice.
I kinda like it, particularly the second "scooped" version. It grew on me. In any case, I'd rather see that approach rather than an ugly thickening of an LCD by piggyback everything onto the back of it. At that point, why bother? A 4-5" deep LCD that weighs 20lbs.? No thanks! Besides, doesn't that go against everything Steve himself said in the keynote unveiling the iMac G4?
No offense intended at all. I'm just not a fan of having the space wasted out back. On a positive note, it would help assure plenty of breathing room to keep the machine cool.
No offense. I'm not thin-skinned. I've been doing this kind of stuff for years and unless someone is just being a drive-by, rude ass for no reason, honest, thoughtful criticism doesn't bother me at all.
Builds character...
But you're right: the G5 might dictate a lot of the design stuff because of those cooling issues. This thing might not be able to be as slim and sleek as we'd all like, because of fans or ventilation needs.
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
Anyway...
I like the concept. What if the back "slab" was a sculpted arch that curved up and tapered to a point, and that point has a single swivel mount centered on the back of the monitor? Then your monitor can tilt up, down, sideways, push on one corner and it moves in that direction, etc... The arm of the last iMac (the expensive component) is is essentially replaced with a one-piece, fixed component with a pivot point at its terminnus, and perhaps overall manufacturing costs are lowered while maintaining a functioal degree of adjustability?
The drive would be horizontal in the base, so it would remain "true to itself."
It doesn't match the "computer on the back of the monitor" look we've been told to expect, but I think it could make for an elegant and functional computer.
Which is why I like my concept, not just because it looks cool, it would allow for proper components and would be able to be cooled. The screen retains all of the ergonomics as the current iMac, with even more rotational ability. I don't see what's wrong with it.
It'd be awesome for someone with Indesign skill to take my TriMac concept and add an Apple-like sheen to it.
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Originally posted by onlooker
What do you need to adjust? It's a screen. I have PowerMac there is no adjustment. It's right in front of you. Tell me, how often do you adjust your TV?
I'm a web developer, and when clients come in, it is very nice to be able to adjust the monitor to face the client, so they don't have to crane their head.
Yes, in a perfect world, you would have two monitors, with one facing the client. But, can't afford that yet.
Originally posted by Chromeus
updated a tad
newest imac update
let me know what you guys think
I concur with jwri004. Goodbye nuts
The innovation of design must move forward. I believe that the eMac will take a design closer to the one at MacKompass, since it has retained the 'componets behind the screen' design.
The iMac has moved forward. It is still an AIO, but the componets are no longer directly behind the screen. It is more ergonomical, yes, and I believe that it will stay that way.
We all know that the iMac is being redesigned. eMacs are low in the channel, too, due to there being no iMacs to sell. This has to be for a reason.
I think everything's happening in Europe this year, guys!!
May I present you with the hip-e personal compter.
http://www.hip-e.com/index.do
The computer the coolest of cool teeny poppers will own this year.
Come on Apple! Whatcha waiting for!
Originally posted by msantti
I see the future of personal compting.
May I present you with the hip-e personal compter.
http://www.hip-e.com/index.do
The computer the coolest of cool teeny poppers will own this year.
Come on Apple! Whatcha waiting for!
Well, it shares all the shortcomings of the alleged next generation iMac.
No upgradeability beyond memory. 1.5GHz Pentium M, AIO, no mention of specific graphics so I imagine something integrated or FX5200 class chip, and $1699 price.
If that is the competition then I'll take the iMac in a heartbeat.
On an aesthetic note, I would prefer to have my balls pounded flat with a wooden mallet than use that thing.
This is an explanation of the dual-action tilt/swivel cam I'm imagining (inspired by a trailer hitch I saw)
http://homepage.mac.com/pscates/mockups/pivot.gif
Then, earlier today, I went back to the rear 3D drawing above, scooped this, beveled that, deepened this, etc.
Yes, the "guts" are housed in the vertical "slab" block behind the display (minus the optical drive, which is up front of course, along with a power button, USB, FireWire and maybe a headphone jack).
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
Anyway...
[edit} you edited that while I was posting. The new one isn't as bad.
I still think it's less than a desirable choice for Apple though.
Originally posted by onlooker
I mean no disrespect pscates, but that thing is butt ugly.
[edit} you edited that while I was posting. The new one isn't as bad.
I still think it's less than a desirable choice for Apple though.
Don't like that tMac
The slab at the back would take up far too much deskspace, it looks as deep at the back as a CRT
Originally posted by pscates
Did this in Illustrator CS, using the new 3D tools. It's a tMac!__
This is an explanation of the dual-action tilt/swivel cam I'm imagining (inspired by a trailer hitch I saw)
http://homepage.mac.com/pscates/mockups/pivot.gif
Then, earlier today, I went back to the rear 3D drawing above, scooped this, beveled that, deepened this, etc.
Yes, the "guts" are housed in the vertical "slab" block behind the display (minus the optical drive, which is up front of course, along with a power button, USB, FireWire and maybe a headphone jack).
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
Anyway...
I admire your artistic skill, but I don't like that design either. It's like an eMac on Atkins
Originally posted by pscates
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on"...
More that than anything...and to show an idea for screen mobility, inspired by the new Cinema Displays, but taken a step further (some side-to-side swivel action).
Yeah, it might pooch out the back some...but it's not anywhere near as deep as a 20" CRT would be. Knock it off.
And it's one 3-4" wide slab, which the user never even sees. Unless someone is just going to sit beside it all day and stare at the side and lament how "far back it goes", who cares? It's not as deep as an eMac, even.
eMac on Atkins? Nice.
I kinda like it, particularly the second "scooped" version. It grew on me. In any case, I'd rather see that approach rather than an ugly thickening of an LCD by piggyback everything onto the back of it. At that point, why bother? A 4-5" deep LCD that weighs 20lbs.? No thanks! Besides, doesn't that go against everything Steve himself said in the keynote unveiling the iMac G4?
Originally posted by pscates
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
As you have it, the display is mounted rather than the components. I do like it, though.
Originally posted by NittanyLionTosh
I like it
That's hardly a ringing endorsement, considering your behavior lately.
In fact, now people are REALLY gonna pile on and say they hate it just because you like it.
Thanks, Messiahtosh. Puddinghead.
Originally posted by pscates
More that than anything...and to show an idea for screen mobility, inspired by the new Cinema Displays, but taken a step further (some side-to-side swivel action).
Yeah, it might pooch out the back some...but it's not anywhere near as deep as a 20" CRT would be. Knock it off.
And it's one 3-4" wide slab, which the user never even sees. Unless someone is just going to sit beside it all day and stare at the side and lament how "far back it goes", who cares? It's not as deep as an eMac, even.
eMac on Atkins? Nice.
I kinda like it, particularly the second "scooped" version. It grew on me. In any case, I'd rather see that approach rather than an ugly thickening of an LCD by piggyback everything onto the back of it. At that point, why bother? A 4-5" deep LCD that weighs 20lbs.? No thanks! Besides, doesn't that go against everything Steve himself said in the keynote unveiling the iMac G4?
No offense intended at all. I'm just not a fan of having the space wasted out back. On a positive note, it would help assure plenty of breathing room to keep the machine cool.
No offense. I'm not thin-skinned. I've been doing this kind of stuff for years and unless someone is just being a drive-by, rude ass for no reason, honest, thoughtful criticism doesn't bother me at all.
Builds character...
But you're right: the G5 might dictate a lot of the design stuff because of those cooling issues. This thing might not be able to be as slim and sleek as we'd all like, because of fans or ventilation needs.
Originally posted by pscates
I did it mainly to illustrate that Think Secret's story of the "components mounted on the rear of the display" doesn't necessarily have to mean they're "glommed on", but rather could be placed perpendicular to the display, making for a nice "T"-shaped base (as viewed from above).
Anyway...
I like the concept. What if the back "slab" was a sculpted arch that curved up and tapered to a point, and that point has a single swivel mount centered on the back of the monitor? Then your monitor can tilt up, down, sideways, push on one corner and it moves in that direction, etc... The arm of the last iMac (the expensive component) is is essentially replaced with a one-piece, fixed component with a pivot point at its terminnus, and perhaps overall manufacturing costs are lowered while maintaining a functioal degree of adjustability?
The drive would be horizontal in the base, so it would remain "true to itself."
It doesn't match the "computer on the back of the monitor" look we've been told to expect, but I think it could make for an elegant and functional computer.
It'd be awesome for someone with Indesign skill to take my TriMac concept and add an Apple-like sheen to it.