2. they will burn out (hence why Apple does not support booting off of them)
1. Toshiba lists the seek time as 15ms average with a 4200RPM rotational rate. This is a little slow but not deadly slow. Seems like it would be tolerable in a sub notebook.
2. Perhaps because of the way the drive is packaged in the iPod it will overheat if it runs too hard for too long. Typical use in an iPod during play is to sporadically turn on the drive and do a quick read. Even during a total restore the drive will only run for five minutes or so. In a computer where the HD is expected to get heavier use a fan is available to cool the HD.
There may be more truth here than you may first realize. The new iMac may very well get the harddrive but not for the reaons mentioned, I'm betting that it will allow a thiner profile and that this will be important on iMac3.
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Originally posted by onlooker
use the 60GB drive in the new iMac so the radiator can fit in there to.
There may be more truth here than you may first realize. The new iMac may very well get the harddrive but not for the reaons mentioned, I'm betting that it will allow a thiner profile and that this will be important on iMac3.
strongly doubt it. the main goal for the next imac is not thinner profile or smaller....it's cheaper and better performance. to do this they need desktop parts. plus, 60GB is miniscule for a desktop hard drive these days when 160GB drives are far from uncommon.
Well apple has never been one to supply even modest amounts of storage so I don't think that is an issue. Granted I'd like to see more memory of all types in Apples machines but Apple would really have to break with tradition here.
The other issue is the market Apple is shooting for. If they are after the thin client market 60GB would be plenty. For the home user it would be desirable to have more, that I will agree with, but there is nothing to keep Apple form implementing small form factor expansion bays.
AS to cheap, I would imagine that such drives can be had very cheap. Once the development costs are taken care of the only thing left to support the price is materials and construction which isn't much on these drives.
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Originally posted by applenut
strongly doubt it. the main goal for the next imac is not thinner profile or smaller....it's cheaper and better performance. to do this they need desktop parts. plus, 60GB is miniscule for a desktop hard drive these days when 160GB drives are far from uncommon.
Well apple has never been one to supply even modest amounts of storage so I don't think that is an issue. Granted I'd like to see more memory of all types in Apples machines but Apple would really have to break with tradition here.
The other issue is the market Apple is shooting for. If they are after the thin client market 60GB would be plenty. For the home user it would be desirable to have more, that I will agree with, but there is nothing to keep Apple form implementing small form factor expansion bays.
AS to cheap, I would imagine that such drives can be had very cheap. Once the development costs are taken care of the only thing left to support the price is materials and construction which isn't much on these drives.
they aren't aiming for the thin client market. that would be a decrease in HD from current models. and the smaller drives are significantly more expensive and slower than not only desktop hard drives but 2.5 inch laptop hard drives as well.
strongly doubt it. the main goal for the next imac is not thinner profile or smaller....it's cheaper and better performance. to do this they need desktop parts. plus, 60GB is miniscule for a desktop hard drive these days when 160GB drives are far from uncommon.
I agree, the 60GB would be good for tablets, mobile media or thinclients and only the second one seems likely to me.
I would like a 10" sub notebook that slips into a coat pocket, but that is just me.
In this article about the 1.8 inch 60 GB hard drive it says the drive can be used in Digital music players or Sub-notebooks. Some people said that this hard drive couldn't be used for a sub-notebook.
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Originally posted by applenut
1. they are extremely slow
2. they will burn out (hence why Apple does not support booting off of them)
1. Toshiba lists the seek time as 15ms average with a 4200RPM rotational rate. This is a little slow but not deadly slow. Seems like it would be tolerable in a sub notebook.
2. Perhaps because of the way the drive is packaged in the iPod it will overheat if it runs too hard for too long. Typical use in an iPod during play is to sporadically turn on the drive and do a quick read. Even during a total restore the drive will only run for five minutes or so. In a computer where the HD is expected to get heavier use a fan is available to cool the HD.
Originally posted by onlooker
use the 60GB drive in the new iMac so the radiator can fit in there to.
Originally posted by wizard69
There may be more truth here than you may first realize. The new iMac may very well get the harddrive but not for the reaons mentioned, I'm betting that it will allow a thiner profile and that this will be important on iMac3.
strongly doubt it. the main goal for the next imac is not thinner profile or smaller....it's cheaper and better performance. to do this they need desktop parts. plus, 60GB is miniscule for a desktop hard drive these days when 160GB drives are far from uncommon.
The other issue is the market Apple is shooting for. If they are after the thin client market 60GB would be plenty. For the home user it would be desirable to have more, that I will agree with, but there is nothing to keep Apple form implementing small form factor expansion bays.
AS to cheap, I would imagine that such drives can be had very cheap. Once the development costs are taken care of the only thing left to support the price is materials and construction which isn't much on these drives.
Originally posted by applenut
strongly doubt it. the main goal for the next imac is not thinner profile or smaller....it's cheaper and better performance. to do this they need desktop parts. plus, 60GB is miniscule for a desktop hard drive these days when 160GB drives are far from uncommon.
Originally posted by wizard69
Well apple has never been one to supply even modest amounts of storage so I don't think that is an issue. Granted I'd like to see more memory of all types in Apples machines but Apple would really have to break with tradition here.
The other issue is the market Apple is shooting for. If they are after the thin client market 60GB would be plenty. For the home user it would be desirable to have more, that I will agree with, but there is nothing to keep Apple form implementing small form factor expansion bays.
AS to cheap, I would imagine that such drives can be had very cheap. Once the development costs are taken care of the only thing left to support the price is materials and construction which isn't much on these drives.
they aren't aiming for the thin client market. that would be a decrease in HD from current models. and the smaller drives are significantly more expensive and slower than not only desktop hard drives but 2.5 inch laptop hard drives as well.
Originally posted by applenut
strongly doubt it. the main goal for the next imac is not thinner profile or smaller....it's cheaper and better performance. to do this they need desktop parts. plus, 60GB is miniscule for a desktop hard drive these days when 160GB drives are far from uncommon.
I agree, the 60GB would be good for tablets, mobile media or thinclients and only the second one seems likely to me.
I would like a 10" sub notebook that slips into a coat pocket, but that is just me.
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/08/04/toshiba/