I'm not sure when the new eMac will come out, but I think it will be very soon. I think it may feature anywhere from a 1.5 - 1.8 GHz G4 processor and hopefully 512 mb ram standard although I doubt it. Also, it will probably feature FireWire 800. I wonder if Apple will move to an LCD screen. This is the only Apple computer that still features a CRT. I hope the eMac gets refreshed before Christmas.
One more bump this Fall with the current form factor, but I anticipate a complete redesign next Spring for the big 2005 EDU buying season. It will become an LCD based AIO with a very simple, wedge design. Nothing spectacular like the iMac, just a clean triangular appearance with a small footprint built to take abuse. It will remain G4 and be based around the 1280x854 15.2" LCD from the Powerbook line, offering widescreen on a budget.
Nice eMacs, but they look a little optimistic. A 1.8GHz G4 with a 9600 (any higher than the base 9600) and a Superdrive would whup the low end iMac, unless it too is revised. May I push the boat out and venture an integrated memory controller on the G4?
I doubt that the eMacs will go LCD. The eMacs were created for two reasons:
1. The CRT is cheaper than LCD.
2. The iMac of the time was not a true AIO.
But since the current iMac has become a true AIO, the eMac only exists for reason #1. When LCD prices become low enough to put in a eMac, that's when the eMac will retire.
Apple could very well go the high integration 32 bit route for a year or more on the eMac. With the right chip set they could give the machine a very reasonable speed boost and lower the price at the same time.
It is interesting that Freescale is sampling high integration devices as we speak. The question remains is will they ever start shiping the chip in volume at a speed that Apple could make use of. so far what I've seen would make a better iBook processor than anything but we can always hope for something a little spiffier for the eMac.
At best though Apple only has about two years left for 32 bit desk top hardware. After that I that the market will be almost entirely 64 bit. All it will take is the right software and OS features to drive the 64 bit adoption.
Dave
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Originally posted by Stoo
Nice eMacs, but they look a little optimistic. A 1.8GHz G4 with a 9600 (any higher than the base 9600) and a Superdrive would whup the low end iMac, unless it too is revised. May I push the boat out and venture an integrated memory controller on the G4?
Huh? What was "untrue" about it? It wasn't modular. How exactly could it have been more AIO?
Are you saying this because the screen was on an arm?
The speaker was external. Kids could do all kinds of things with that speaker. I guess that schools could have used a soundless iMac in class but for software that requires audio, the eMac was a must.
The arm is iffy. Was it capable of withstanding years of abuse by children? Only teachers will know.
The speaker was external. Kids could do all kinds of things with that speaker. I guess that schools could have used a soundless iMac in class but for software that requires audio, the eMac was a must.
The arm is iffy. Was it capable of withstanding years of abuse by children? Only teachers will know.
iMac had internal speaker... what are you talking about?
I doubt that the eMacs will go LCD. The eMacs were created for two reasons:
1. The CRT is cheaper than LCD.
2. The iMac of the time was not a true AIO.
But since the current iMac has become a true AIO, the eMac only exists for reason #1. When LCD prices become low enough to put in a eMac, that's when the eMac will retire.
The Freescale 7448 processor might debut next spring in the eMac. For the obvious reason that everyone is having trouble moving their processors to 90nm, Freescale is probably being very conservative about any suggestion of when the 7448 will be available. However if all goes well it would make sense for both Freescale and Apple to get this in the eMac sooner rather than later. 1.6GHz might not seem that fast in 2005 but with that 1MB cache it will be fast enough for the eMac.
Most of you seem to not know about the education model of the new iMac.
$1,099.00
With it's totally serviceable chassis, it's a no brainer for education.
Why? Because in-house IT departments need access to replace parts (just like PCs), not shelve the entire unit.
I believe the eMac will be EOL'ed any day now.
Hey, I'm an eMac owner too. So I'm not bashing the eMac. It's a great machine.
Yes, cost is a major factor. But there are two ways to look at cost. One is consumer cost, and one is manufacturing cost. Having two entirely different models doesn't make sense from a manufacturing cost perspective. At the end of the day, Apple is a company. Something has to give somewhere.
I'm not sure when the new eMac will come out, but I think it will be very soon. I think it may feature anywhere from a 1.5 - 1.8 GHz G4 processor and hopefully 512 mb ram standard although I doubt it. Also, it will probably feature FireWire 800. I wonder if Apple will move to an LCD screen. This is the only Apple computer that still features a CRT. I hope the eMac gets refreshed before Christmas.
Why in the world would a new eMac have FW 800 when the new iMac does not? Why would it have 512MB RAM standard when the new iMac does not?
So you basically want a G4 instead of a G5 in the new iMac, with two extra features..for half the price and we will call that an eMac?
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Originally posted by krzysiek
What will the specs be??
When it be??
I'm not sure when the new eMac will come out, but I think it will be very soon. I think it may feature anywhere from a 1.5 - 1.8 GHz G4 processor and hopefully 512 mb ram standard although I doubt it. Also, it will probably feature FireWire 800. I wonder if Apple will move to an LCD screen. This is the only Apple computer that still features a CRT. I hope the eMac gets refreshed before Christmas.
Here are my proposed specs:
1.8 GHz Freescale G4
ATi Radeon 9600 64MB
80 GB HD
SuperDrive
$999
1.6 GHz Freescale G4
ATi Radeon 9600 32MB
80 GB HD
ComboDrive
$799
1.25 GHz G4
ATi Radeon 9200 32MB
80 GB HD
No Optical Drive
EDU/Enterprise Only
$699
1. The CRT is cheaper than LCD.
2. The iMac of the time was not a true AIO.
But since the current iMac has become a true AIO, the eMac only exists for reason #1. When LCD prices become low enough to put in a eMac, that's when the eMac will retire.
Originally posted by THT
It'll be a 1.5 GHz G5 with 17" CRT, some 32 MB vid card, ATA disk drive, 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM.
More likely than 1.8G G4's. But, dont rule out 1.42G G4's as a more typical apple update.
Originally posted by BeigeUser
2. The iMac of the time was not a true AIO.
Huh? What was "untrue" about it? It wasn't modular. How exactly could it have been more AIO?
Are you saying this because the screen was on an arm?
It is interesting that Freescale is sampling high integration devices as we speak. The question remains is will they ever start shiping the chip in volume at a speed that Apple could make use of. so far what I've seen would make a better iBook processor than anything but we can always hope for something a little spiffier for the eMac.
At best though Apple only has about two years left for 32 bit desk top hardware. After that I that the market will be almost entirely 64 bit. All it will take is the right software and OS features to drive the 64 bit adoption.
Dave
Originally posted by Stoo
Nice eMacs, but they look a little optimistic. A 1.8GHz G4 with a 9600 (any higher than the base 9600) and a Superdrive would whup the low end iMac, unless it too is revised. May I push the boat out and venture an integrated memory controller on the G4?
Originally posted by jouster
Huh? What was "untrue" about it? It wasn't modular. How exactly could it have been more AIO?
Are you saying this because the screen was on an arm?
The speaker was external. Kids could do all kinds of things with that speaker. I guess that schools could have used a soundless iMac in class but for software that requires audio, the eMac was a must.
The arm is iffy. Was it capable of withstanding years of abuse by children? Only teachers will know.
Originally posted by BeigeUser
The speaker was external. Kids could do all kinds of things with that speaker. I guess that schools could have used a soundless iMac in class but for software that requires audio, the eMac was a must.
The arm is iffy. Was it capable of withstanding years of abuse by children? Only teachers will know.
iMac had internal speaker... what are you talking about?
Actually, depending on how much the G5 costs, I can actually see them doing that. They've got the chipset in the iMac already.
Originally posted by Amorph
...unless Apple rolls out a G5 eMac.
That's assuming IBM can produce the chips in sufficient quantities.
Originally posted by BeigeUser
I doubt that the eMacs will go LCD. The eMacs were created for two reasons:
1. The CRT is cheaper than LCD.
2. The iMac of the time was not a true AIO.
But since the current iMac has become a true AIO, the eMac only exists for reason #1. When LCD prices become low enough to put in a eMac, that's when the eMac will retire.
I second this!
$1,099.00
With it's totally serviceable chassis, it's a no brainer for education.
Why? Because in-house IT departments need access to replace parts (just like PCs), not shelve the entire unit.
I believe the eMac will be EOL'ed any day now.
Hey, I'm an eMac owner too. So I'm not bashing the eMac. It's a great machine.
Yes, cost is a major factor. But there are two ways to look at cost. One is consumer cost, and one is manufacturing cost. Having two entirely different models doesn't make sense from a manufacturing cost perspective. At the end of the day, Apple is a company. Something has to give somewhere.
Originally posted by FormatC2
Most of you seem to not know about the education model of the new iMac.
$1,099.00
With it's totally serviceable chassis, it's a no brainer for education.
Why? Because in-house IT departments need access to replace parts (just like PCs), not shelve the entire unit...
Yes, the educational iMac would be a valuable asset to schools. However, you do not seem to know about the education model of the eMac.
$599.00
The eMac won't be going anywhere until the iMac becomes much more affordable.
Originally posted by s_sarinana
I'm not sure when the new eMac will come out, but I think it will be very soon. I think it may feature anywhere from a 1.5 - 1.8 GHz G4 processor and hopefully 512 mb ram standard although I doubt it. Also, it will probably feature FireWire 800. I wonder if Apple will move to an LCD screen. This is the only Apple computer that still features a CRT. I hope the eMac gets refreshed before Christmas.
Why in the world would a new eMac have FW 800 when the new iMac does not? Why would it have 512MB RAM standard when the new iMac does not?
So you basically want a G4 instead of a G5 in the new iMac, with two extra features..for half the price and we will call that an eMac?
Crazy.
You actually know what's in the thing... So add up the cost.
What can they make cheaper? The answer to that question = eMac.
I just don't think they can afford to keep the eMac line running... The CRT is unique, and thus must run up the cost of production.
LCDs on the other hand, are used across every other computer they sell.