burning more than 74min?

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
I just got my first mac, the new powerbook 1ghz, and while trying to burn an audio CD, I noticed that I was unable to burn more than 74 minutes even though it was an 80 minutes CD. Is there a way to change this, or is that just how the software is. Also, I have yet to try, but is it possible to burn date CD's that will fill up the entire 80 minutes? Thanks in advance for all your help.
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    My only initial thoughts are on formatting, and storing the directory structure. These are always issues with any format...





    However, You'll be able to fit more mp3's or ogg vorbis files onto a disk than .Wav files... And MP3 CD players are becoming cheap and common (you can pick up portables as low as $60), while more professional DVD/CD players should also be supporting such...



    Heck, you can fit 200+ 3mb files onto a disk... that's 200+ songs... (Or 100 6mb files)



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  • Reply 2 of 27
    Thanks for the response, but I don't think that really answered the question. I don't want to buy an mp3 cd player, i want to burn CD's that can fill the 80 minutes that is available on them. Is this possible with iTunes?
  • Reply 3 of 27
    Why, of course!



    Older CD's (and pretty much all cheap no-name brand CDR's and CDRW's) are 650 MB/74 min. discs, which means that you can only make a 74 min. Audio CD with them, assuming of course you don't make an MP3 CD.



    Well known, established brands of media like Verbatim, Fuji, Sony, Memorex, etc. Sell discs conforming to the more recent CD format which is 700 MB/80 mins.



    So, if you want to make an 80 min. CD, or make a copy of an 80 min. CD, you'll have to trade on up to the slightly more expensive name brands. If you don't know what to buy just look for discs that say "700 MB/80 Min." on the packaging.



    Hope that helps!
  • Reply 4 of 27
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    [quote]Originally posted by rampancy:

    <strong>Why, of course!



    Older CD's (and pretty much all cheap no-name brand CDR's and CDRW's) are 650 MB/74 min. discs, which means that you can only make a 74 min. Audio CD with them, assuming of course you don't make an MP3 CD.



    Well known, established brands of media like Verbatim, Fuji, Sony, Memorex, etc. Sell discs conforming to the more recent CD format which is 700 MB/80 mins.



    So, if you want to make an 80 min. CD, or make a copy of an 80 min. CD, you'll have to trade on up to the slightly more expensive name brands. If you don't know what to buy just look for discs that say "700 MB/80 Min." on the packaging.



    Hope that helps!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I concur. its almost impossible to get exactly 80mins. Its just like u dun get the exact amount of harddisk space as specified in your computer configurations anyway.
  • Reply 5 of 27
    Sorry for all the confusion, but I do have 80 minute CD's, those are what I was using. But iTunes was only letting me burn up to 74 minutes on an 80 minutes CD. But based on all you guys have said, it seems it is possible to burn more than 74 minutes.
  • Reply 6 of 27
    cosmocosmo Posts: 662member
    Maybe you have the space between tracks set to a high number. Try selecting a gap of zero seconds between tracks and see if that helps.
  • Reply 7 of 27
    Doesn't make sense, I have burned hundreds of audio CDs on 80 min. CDs and can get about 79 min and 50-odd seconds, always.



    Of course, I don't have a SuperDrive in my PowerBook, could that be it?



    My only other suggestions are

    Try Toast

    Try CD blanks from a different batch/brand
  • Reply 8 of 27
    I have tried 2 different types of CD's, Memorex and PNY Technologies, both have not allowed me to burn close to 80 minutes and both are 80 minutes CD's. The CD that I wish to burn is 79 minutes and 13 seconds. I took out the 2 seconds between tracks, and still no luck. Is it possible that it is the superdrive that is causing this problem?
  • Reply 9 of 27
    [quote]Originally posted by rockets19:

    <strong>I have tried 2 different types of CD's, Memorex and PNY Technologies, both have not allowed me to burn close to 80 minutes and both are 80 minutes CD's. The CD that I wish to burn is 79 minutes and 13 seconds. I took out the 2 seconds between tracks, and still no luck. Is it possible that it is the superdrive that is causing this problem?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    So to get the record right (not to be rude), you've tried burning 75 and 76 minutes to no avail on the 80 minute discs? And this still failed?



    I'm merely wondering if say you are trying to burn 79 minutes and 15 seconds, but can say only burn 78 mintues for some odd reason...



    It looks like Apple support may be the way to go, I'm having problems finding such problems posted to other sites... hehe, do you live near an Apple Retail Store???
  • Reply 10 of 27
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    I have amply used MMORE branded 700MB/80min discs, and have always been able to burn 702-odd MB on them. I guess they indeed offer a little more. It all depends on the disc, I guess.
  • Reply 11 of 27
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    I have routinely burned over 80 minutes on both an internal combo drive and an external Firewire "superdrive". I've done them in both iTunes and Toast in both OS 9 & OS X.



    Definitely try a different brand of CD-R. When you put them in your machine, are they recognized as 80 Min discs? Notice if they're showing up in the Finder or in iTunes as 74 or 80 minute discs. Although I think you said you've tried two different brands, if not, it might actually be a bad pressing of discs. THey are cheap commodities now and a mislabeled batch isn't that hard to imagine.
  • Reply 12 of 27
    Thanks again for all your help, this is my first Mac, and I've only had it for a few days now, so its very possible I could be making stupid rookie mistakes. I have not checked in the finder to see if it recognizes it as an 80 minute CD, I did not know that was an option. I am at work now, so I'll have to wait till I get off to check that. However, the CD's im using I used on my old PC and was able to burn up to 80 minutes. I have tried a few different configurations of minutes, but they have all been in the 79 minute range, I'll try something closer to 76 or 77 or so when I get home. Thanks again.
  • Reply 13 of 27
    I believe it comes down to firstly inserting the disc, then pressing the burn button. If U do it the other way, itunes doesn't know what type of disc will be inserted and probably takes the standard, 74 min.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    [quote]Originally posted by drazztikka:

    <strong>I believe it comes down to firstly inserting the disc, then pressing the burn button. If U do it the other way, itunes doesn't know what type of disc will be inserted and probably takes the standard, 74 min.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I've actually tried that too, but every time I begin to burn the disc, it ejects the disc and I have to reinsert it.
  • Reply 15 of 27
    Alright, during my lunch break I went home and tested 4 different 80 minutes CDR's. I got info when I opened the CD in the finder, and it is not recognizing that they are 80 minute CD's. It says that there is a 670 maximum capacity, with 660 available to burn. Any ideas?
  • Reply 16 of 27
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    What OS?
  • Reply 17 of 27
    OSX, 10.23, or whatever the latest version is. Brand new Powerbook with whatever the most updated version.
  • Reply 18 of 27
    Anyone else have any other ideas or suggestions?
  • Reply 19 of 27
    CDs for burning behave "strangely" in OS X.



    A couple of weeks ago I posted this question over in the "Mac OS X" forum here, why is it that 700 MB CDs are recognized as having only 670 MB available, but nobody answered (http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001773).



    However, I was able to get approx. 750 MB onto a 700 MB CD via iTunes. I'm sure you wonder how I did it? Just create a playlist in iTunes (name it, eg, "CD"), and put all the tracks (aiff files) there. Then, click the "Burn" button (top right corner in iTunes) and there you go.

    (HW iBook 2001 384/10GB; SW 10.2.2 at that time, latest iTunes)



    Still, if anybody knows WHY the OS "limits" 700 MB CDs as having only 670 MB available (and 650 MB CDs offer approx. 600 or 610 MB - I don't remember the exact figure), I'd LOVE to know.



    Jan Dvorak
  • Reply 20 of 27
    [quote]Originally posted by Jan Dvorak:

    <strong>CDs for burning behave "strangely" in OS X.



    A couple of weeks ago I posted this question over in the "Mac OS X" forum here, why is it that 700 MB CDs are recognized as having only 670 MB available, but nobody answered (http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001773).



    However, I was able to get approx. 750 MB onto a 700 MB CD via iTunes. I'm sure you wonder how I did it? Just create a playlist in iTunes (name it, eg, "CD"), and put all the tracks (aiff files) there. Then, click the "Burn" button (top right corner in iTunes) and there you go.

    (HW iBook 2001 384/10GB; SW 10.2.2 at that time, latest iTunes)



    Still, if anybody knows WHY the OS "limits" 700 MB CDs as having only 670 MB available (and 650 MB CDs offer approx. 600 or 610 MB - I don't remember the exact figure), I'd LOVE to know.



    Jan Dvorak</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I've tried that as well, and still no dice. Any other suggestions out there?
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