970GX going official

pbpb
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I don't know if anyone noticed, but this IBM page talks about the 970GX processors.



Quote:



The only processors currently supporting AltiVec are the G4 and G5. The G4 (including model numbers 7400 and 7410) and G4+ (7450 and 7455) processors are made by Motorola. (There are more models than just the ones listed here, but these are the most widely discussed.) The G5 chips include the IBM 970, 970FX, and 970GX; these are essentially POWER4? cores with an AltiVec unit bolted on. So far, only PowerPC® processors have had AltiVec support, not the POWER? line. If you want to buy "a computer with AltiVec," Apple's Mac line is your most likely option. For evaluation boards and custom designs, however, you can go with any of the many vendors who do development kits based on either the G4 or G5.





I think this means that the next Power Mac will have this POWER4-based 970GX G5 processor. Now, who will tell us what exactly is this?
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  • Reply 1 of 55
    aphelionaphelion Posts: 736member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by PB

    this IBM page ... 970GX !



    ... Now, who will tell us what exactly is this?






    Great link PB!



    Listed in order, as they are, ("970, 970FX, and 970GX") it is hard to consider this info a typo. This just confirms there IS a 970GX as rumored. This would also lend credibility to the 970MP alluded to in same rumors.



    What exactly it is (the 970GX) remains to be seen. I would hope that it would also share some features with Power5, along with process improvements that will take us to the 3 GHz promised land. I'll throw in a reduction in the "hot spots" that have been plaguing scaling and power consumption into my wish list.
  • Reply 2 of 55
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    So, when will we see a G5 update?
  • Reply 3 of 55
    pbpb Posts: 4,233member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by New

    So, when will we see a G5 update?



    On WWDC I would say, like last year.
  • Reply 4 of 55
    rhumgodrhumgod Posts: 1,289member
    970gx was the low-power version supposedly for PowerBooks. WWDC = PowerBook G5???
  • Reply 5 of 55
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Rhumgod

    970gx was the low-power version supposedly for PowerBooks. WWDC = PowerBook G5???



    WWDC would more likely mean announced powerbooks, to be shipping in a month or two.
  • Reply 6 of 55
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    It's no an IBM article, just published on their site...
  • Reply 7 of 55
    anandanand Posts: 285member
    This is what ThinkSecret had to say about the 970GX:



    "The biggest news is that Antares will also be available in a single-core version, code-named AntaresSP, which is expected to be named the PowerPC 970GX. At present, Apple's dual-2.5GHz Power Mac G5 uses the PowerPC 970FX processor. Like Antares, the 970GX will initially come in at speeds around 3GHz and is said to feature 1MB of L2 cache, double what the 970FX processor sports. Like the 970FX, however, the processor will not have any L3 cache."
  • Reply 8 of 55
    pbpb Posts: 4,233member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Bigc

    It's no an IBM article, just published on their site...



    Yes, I do realize that this is written by someone Peter Seebach, a freelance writer, and it is not an official IBM document. However, being published in IBM's site, means that the company allowed the author to talk about the 970GX processor in this article. For me, this implies that the 970GX is not just a rumor but real. It was also said before that 970GX is the single-core version of the 970MP, I think, the dual-core G5. So, apparently this rumor was not without substance.
  • Reply 9 of 55
    rhumgodrhumgod Posts: 1,289member
    I totally agree. And I will go one step further and say that the 970GX is actually the lower-power version. I would shat-a-brick if Apple announces a better (or even equivalent) speed processor for the PowerMac and the PowerBook. Whatever the name is for it, IBM does recognize it as a processor and Apple will be using them. If this is the lower-wattage demon, than all bets should be that it goes in a PowerBook.
  • Reply 10 of 55
    xsmixsmi Posts: 128member
    The reference to the 970GX has been removed.



    The only processors currently supporting AltiVec are the G4 and G5. The G4 (including model numbers 7400 and 7410) and G4+ (7450 and 7455) processors are made by Motorola. (There are more models than just the ones listed here, but these are the most widely discussed.) The G5 chips include the IBM 970 and 970FX; these are essentially POWER4? cores with an AltiVec unit bolted on. So far, only PowerPC® processors have had AltiVec support, not the POWER? line. If you want to buy "a computer with AltiVec," Apple's Mac line is your most likely option. For evaluation boards and custom designs, however, you can go with any of the many vendors who do development kits based on either the G4 or G5.



    I don't know if this makes a diffence or not.

    http://www-128.ibm.com/developerwork.../pa-unrollav1/
  • Reply 11 of 55
    pbpb Posts: 4,233member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by xsmi

    The reference to the 970GX has been removed.





    That's it.



    *** CONFIRMED ***



  • Reply 12 of 55
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by PB

    That's it.



    *** CONFIRMED ***







    Works for me, Relic breaks open piggy bank and starts counting pennys.
  • Reply 13 of 55
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by PB

    That's it.



    *** CONFIRMED ***







    Maybe, maybe not. It could have been an overlooked mistake. Where would a freelance writer get that kind of information?
  • Reply 14 of 55
    aphelionaphelion Posts: 736member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by onlooker

    Maybe, maybe not. It could have been an overlooked mistake. Where would a freelance writer get that kind of information?



    From the IBM web page:



    Quote:

    Our apologies!

    The original version of this article contained an erroneous reference to the 970GX; this was an oversight. We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

    --Editors



    Parsing out the above quote, the reference to the 970GX was the oversight, not the fact of it's existence. The apology itself refers to the 970GX. by name.



    The author of the article must have had access to IBM personnel as well as documentation. I'm sure he didn't get the idea of a 970GX from Think Secret.



    I'd say this faux pau does lend credibility if not confirmation to the 970GX, the only question left in my mind is WHEN?
  • Reply 15 of 55
    xsmixsmi Posts: 128member
    I think you guys may be reading too much into it.
  • Reply 16 of 55
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by xsmi

    I think you guys may be reading too much into it.



    I agree. "The author of the article must have" been stoned.



    erroneous
    • illusion

    • incorrect

    • wrong

    • misbelief

  • Reply 17 of 55
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,408member
    Wow this is great news!



    Now we need to get a timeframe going
  • Reply 18 of 55
    pbpb Posts: 4,233member
    I have a feeling that opinions in this thread are greatly diverse .
  • Reply 19 of 55
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,408member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by onlooker

    erroneous illusion
    incorrect
    wrong
    misbelief




    Based on what?



    Alphelion is correct, a writer wouldn't throw a name up from a "rumor site" and have it published on that companies website, this definitely confirms a 970gx with references to it.



    It was IBM's fault not blocking that part out, they saw their mistake and covered it before apple was all over them for it.
  • Reply 20 of 55
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,408member
    I swear, sometimes I think slip ups like these were intentional.
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