Fantastic reading your review. I sure hope the next week doesn't go by too slowly. I wonder what to do during those thirty minutes while I wait for the indexing?
May I ask if you did an upgrade, archive, or erase install?
Fantastic reading your review. I sure hope the next week doesn't go by too slowly. I wonder what to do during those thirty minutes while I wait for the indexing?
May I ask if you did an upgrade, archive, or erase install?
Thanks.
Upgrade.
Though i did copy my home folder to another HD first. I'm optimistic, but not stupid
Indexing spotlight seems most intent on HD, so if you do anything, do something light in HD. Safari was doable for me.
P.S. the dvd takes forever to boot up, and now it verifies it's own contents before it tries to install anything. Longer install time \ but at least it make sure.
P.P.S I'm not sure sure if this is a bug, but tiger DVD refused to boot up on my TDK dvdrw. I have to move the disk to the orginal combo drive for it to work.
Though i did copy my home folder to another HD first. I'm optimistic, but not stupid
Indexing spotlight seems most intent on HD, so if you do anything, do something light in HD. Safari was doable for me.
P.S. the dvd takes forever to boot up, and now it verifies it's own contents before it tries to install anything. Longer install time \ but at least it make sure.
P.P.S I'm not sure sure if this is a bug, but tiger DVD refused to boot up on my TDK dvdrw. I have to move the disk to the orginal combo drive for it to work.
I heard the install didn't support firewire - maybe that means FW DVD?
Possibly. I think it was during 10.3, the disk utility ran from 10.2 didn't work with the 1.3 version.
In essence it wouldn't install because it was boot up with 10.2, but needed special instructions from 10.3 system.
so if 10.4 is similar it would need to be booted up with a 1.4 disk image aka tiger DVD.
There is one option and you can goto system preferences -> startup target disk.
That might bypass the firewire problem if it exist.
can't you press C and start up from an external DVD?
yeah you can go to system preferences and choose the DVD over FireWire so I'm assuming you could press option at startup as well. It's a myth about the FireWire then!
i think I heard you can install it not from DVD if you use the "restore" function in Disk Utility... I'm not quite sure what thats about though. I've never tried it.
The restore function is like upgrade option. Only without boot up.
Though it was never intended for 2 different versions.
Since i haven't done it I don't know, but it depends on the requirements. Tiger dvd has a great deal of things that the restore function does not provide.
Though I guess if you do it carefully, you will eventually get everything of tiger onto it..I guess.
Though I can't imagine why people would needs to boot up from a non apple drive.
I thought combo drive was pretty much in most systems.
I got a PowerBook with bundled software so do I re-install Panther and then do an upgrade? I want to keep all the bundled apps. Or can I just install the bundled apps from Tiger?
You can install Tiger and then reinstall the software bundle part on top. Its OS independent.
Although the guy here did a simple "Upgrade" (not even archive Install or anything) and it works perfectly... so far. All apps work great, not data loss or prefes, etc.
You can install Tiger and then reinstall the software bundle part on top. Its OS independent.
Although the guy here did a simple "Upgrade" (not even archive Install or anything) and it works perfectly... so far. All apps work great, not data loss or prefes, etc.
Yeah I remember on my old iMac you could add bundled apps separately, i just didn't know if you still could. I want my computer to run as fast as possible and I like to think I'm getting a fresh start!
You can install by making a disk image and simply launching the installer package manually.
I have issues with my power supply during startup so it was neccessary for me to install panther from a harddrive.
I've got an iffy DVD drive in my laptop, so this would be helpful. But how would installation work from a disk image? Doesn't the computer have to reboot and run off the mounted Tiger disk image (which would have un-mounted during rebooting)?
I'm can't seem to remember the exact procedure I used to accomplish this.
It basically involved digging through the install disk and running a number of the installers by hand while booted up off of panther from the harddrive.
I couldn't boot from the DVD drive because I've heavily modded my case for better airflow in order to run dual 1.4 in an original sawtooth. While doing so, I managed to fry the power supply and it no longer powers things up or down in the right order... or at least that is what the symptoms suggest.
So while I can't tell you exactly how I pulled it off... it is possible. Good luck and hopefully somebody else will chime in with details of how to install from the hard drive.
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Fantastic reading your review. I sure hope the next week doesn't go by too slowly. I wonder what to do during those thirty minutes while I wait for the indexing?
May I ask if you did an upgrade, archive, or erase install?
Thanks.
Fantastic reading your review. I sure hope the next week doesn't go by too slowly. I wonder what to do during those thirty minutes while I wait for the indexing?
May I ask if you did an upgrade, archive, or erase install?
Thanks.
Upgrade.
Though i did copy my home folder to another HD first. I'm optimistic, but not stupid
Indexing spotlight seems most intent on HD, so if you do anything, do something light in HD. Safari was doable for me.
P.S. the dvd takes forever to boot up, and now it verifies it's own contents before it tries to install anything. Longer install time
P.P.S I'm not sure sure if this is a bug, but tiger DVD refused to boot up on my TDK dvdrw. I have to move the disk to the orginal combo drive for it to work.
Originally posted by webavatar
I mean who is that much into an OS that you NEED every single build much less crappy winblows
Don't forget that there are speculation threads for every single point-release of OS X in these forums.
Originally posted by Kuku
Upgrade.
Though i did copy my home folder to another HD first. I'm optimistic, but not stupid
Indexing spotlight seems most intent on HD, so if you do anything, do something light in HD. Safari was doable for me.
P.S. the dvd takes forever to boot up, and now it verifies it's own contents before it tries to install anything. Longer install time
P.P.S I'm not sure sure if this is a bug, but tiger DVD refused to boot up on my TDK dvdrw. I have to move the disk to the orginal combo drive for it to work.
I heard the install didn't support firewire - maybe that means FW DVD?
Originally posted by Kuku
I manage to snatch one
It's GM (build number removed)
It's 8a428
While it that can be hacked, it's too much effort to as pdfs etc are also cleaned etc.
There were no signs of pre-release info in 8A825, and the PDFs were the final ones, so it is quite simple to make it look like 8A428.
Originally posted by JLL
There were no signs of pre-release info in 8A825, and the PDFs were the final ones, so it is quite simple to make it look like 8A428.
I'm doing a clean install on my computer when Tiger arrives so there's no harm in trying it! I don't know if I want to though.
I heard the install didn't support firewire - maybe that means FW DVD?
Nope. Not firewire.
I remember having the same problem with 10.3 but so long ago i don't remember.
Well some people will never believe as with every version.
Originally posted by Kuku
Nope. Not firewire.
I remember having the same problem with 10.3 but so long ago i don't remember.
Well some people will never believe as with every version.
So I wont be able to install it from my external (FireWire) DVD drive?
I have issues with my power supply during startup so it was neccessary for me to install panther from a harddrive.
You can install by making a disk image and simply launching the installer package manually.
Possibly. I think it was during 10.3, the disk utility ran from 10.2 didn't work with the 1.3 version.
In essence it wouldn't install because it was boot up with 10.2, but needed special instructions from 10.3 system.
so if 10.4 is similar it would need to be booted up with a 1.4 disk image aka tiger DVD.
There is one option and you can goto system preferences -> startup target disk.
That might bypass the firewire problem if it exist.
Originally posted by Kuku
Possibly. I think it was during 10.3, the disk utility ran from 10.2 didn't work with the 1.3 version.
In essence it wouldn't install because it was boot up with 10.2, but needed special instructions from 10.3 system.
so if 10.4 is similar it would need to be booted up with a 1.4 disk image aka tiger DVD.
There is one option and you can goto system preferences -> startup target disk.
That might bypass the firewire problem if it exist.
can't you press C and start up from an external DVD?
yeah you can go to system preferences and choose the DVD over FireWire so I'm assuming you could press option at startup as well. It's a myth about the FireWire then!
Originally posted by Kuku
Possibly.
No, Definitely.
You can install tiger from a harddrive.
Though it was never intended for 2 different versions.
Since i haven't done it I don't know, but it depends on the requirements. Tiger dvd has a great deal of things that the restore function does not provide.
Though I guess if you do it carefully, you will eventually get everything of tiger onto it..I guess.
Though I can't imagine why people would needs to boot up from a non apple drive.
I thought combo drive was pretty much in most systems.
Possibly only for the really low end system?
Although the guy here did a simple "Upgrade" (not even archive Install or anything) and it works perfectly... so far. All apps work great, not data loss or prefes, etc.
Originally posted by ZO
You can install Tiger and then reinstall the software bundle part on top. Its OS independent.
Although the guy here did a simple "Upgrade" (not even archive Install or anything) and it works perfectly... so far. All apps work great, not data loss or prefes, etc.
Yeah I remember on my old iMac you could add bundled apps separately, i just didn't know if you still could. I want my computer to run as fast as possible and I like to think I'm getting a fresh start!
Originally posted by dfiler
You can install by making a disk image and simply launching the installer package manually.
I have issues with my power supply during startup so it was neccessary for me to install panther from a harddrive.
I've got an iffy DVD drive in my laptop, so this would be helpful. But how would installation work from a disk image? Doesn't the computer have to reboot and run off the mounted Tiger disk image (which would have un-mounted during rebooting)?
I'm can't seem to remember the exact procedure I used to accomplish this.
It basically involved digging through the install disk and running a number of the installers by hand while booted up off of panther from the harddrive.
I couldn't boot from the DVD drive because I've heavily modded my case for better airflow in order to run dual 1.4 in an original sawtooth. While doing so, I managed to fry the power supply and it no longer powers things up or down in the right order... or at least that is what the symptoms suggest.
So while I can't tell you exactly how I pulled it off... it is possible. Good luck and hopefully somebody else will chime in with details of how to install from the hard drive.