We opened Activity Monitor and looked at the stats.
Menu Meters now reports that AT MOST both procs will go to 50% with 10 open and moving the mouse around like crazy. Yesterday, for some reason, it was in the upper 70s-80s. Hmmm.
The memory footprint for the widgets are pretty impressive, I have the following transcribed: RM = Real Memory, VM = Virtual Mem
I really want to know if they fixed finder FTP (i.e. upload support, opening files from the ftp site, sftp), I haven't heard anything from this on Tiger yet...
if you give me an FTP site to test within the next 30 minutes, I'll test it out
PM me if you want to give login/pass for uploading stuff
ZO, if you enable the FTP server for Mac OS X (in sharing pref pane), you can connect to yourself (using your login/pass), and see if uploading/opening files off the ftp drive works. In Panther, uploading doesn't work at all, and opening files does some stupid thing where it asks you twice whether to open it.
Widget memory footprint looks pretty good. I've got calculator.app open in Panther right now, and it's using 17.5 MB real memory, 112.2 MB virtual memory. Zo reports 4.9 MB real, 181 MB virtual for the calculator widget in Tiger. It looks like Apple whittled down the real memory significantly for these widgets, which is nice since they're so cheap about RAM in new Macs.
CPU isn't bad. Memory for each active widget about 15-25MB of RAM, IIRC.
This dosnt making sense seeing as widgets are made from HTML and CSS. It seems to me that most of that 15-25 MB is the eye candy, which you might be able to disable.
This dosnt making sense seeing as widgets are made from HTML and CSS. It seems to me that most of that 15-25 MB is the eye candy, which you might be able to disable.
see ZO's post above, the latest builds are showing like 4-8 meg/widget, that is reasonable for the background rendering and whatnot - particularly if the widget is running in a very high resolution.
FWIW, I found out about Finder's FTP client. It's still read-only. And it does the stupid ask twice thing when opening files. In fact I don't think they touched the FTP code at all.
can anyone explain the Quartz 2D extreme problem in Tiger and how to use Quartz Debug to fix it? i heard that this is an across the board bug, is this true?
can anyone explain the Quartz 2D extreme problem in Tiger and how to use Quartz Debug to fix it? i heard that this is an across the board bug, is this true?
You've got it turned around -- Q2DE has been turned *off* by Apple because it isn't ready for prime time yet.
Reports say it speeds the UI with a nice, noticeable boost ... but there's issues with CoreImage actions and Safari 2, esp. animated gifs.
You can, however, turn it on if you want to see for yourself, either by checking an option in the Dev Tools' Quartz Debug (it then stays on as long as it's running) or editing a plist: change Quartz2DExtremeEnabled to YES in /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist.
The word on the street is that Apple will switch Q2DE on a future 10.4.x update once they've worked the kinks out.
You've got it turned around -- Q2DE has been turned *off* by Apple because it isn't ready for prime time yet.
Reports say it speeds the UI with a nice, noticeable boost ... but there's issues with CoreImage actions and Safari 2, esp. animated gifs.
You can, however, turn it on if you want to see for yourself, either by checking an option in the Dev Tools' Quartz Debug (it then stays on as long as it's running) or editing a plist: change Quartz2DExtremeEnabled to YES in /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist.
The word on the street is that Apple will switch Q2DE on a future 10.4.x update once they've worked the kinks out.
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Regarding the preview pics (icons), it was near instant!!!
OK, the guy had a frikken Dual 2.5GHz so I cant really benchmark with anything else yet... but it just looked instant.
I'm off for the weekend in an hour... so... if you got any last minute questions... shoot away
The guy restarted his Mac.
We opened Activity Monitor and looked at the stats.
Menu Meters now reports that AT MOST both procs will go to 50% with 10 open and moving the mouse around like crazy. Yesterday, for some reason, it was in the upper 70s-80s. Hmmm.
The memory footprint for the widgets are pretty impressive, I have the following transcribed: RM = Real Memory, VM = Virtual Mem
Widget: RM/VM
Calendar: 5.68 / 198
Weather: RM 6.8 / 200
Translation: RM 9.3 / 215
iTunes Widget: 5.3 / 200
Unit Converter: 7.8 / 208
Tile Game: 5 /196
Calculator: 4.9 / 181
Address Book: 7.6 / 209
World Clock: 5.8 / 198
Stocks: 7.3 / 198
The Mac has total of 512MB ram btw.
Make of this what you will
Thanks for the tests.
PM me if you want to give login/pass for uploading stuff
Does Dashboard provide *any* kind of visual feedback when you copy some data from a widget (via command-C)?
Grumble, I expect it still doesn't.
Originally posted by ZO
if you give me an FTP site to test within the next 30 minutes, I'll test it out
PM me if you want to give login/pass for uploading stuff
ZO, if you enable the FTP server for Mac OS X (in sharing pref pane), you can connect to yourself (using your login/pass), and see if uploading/opening files off the ftp drive works. In Panther, uploading doesn't work at all, and opening files does some stupid thing where it asks you twice whether to open it.
Originally posted by ZO
Widget: RM/VM
Calendar: 5.68 / 198
Weather: RM 6.8 / 200
Translation: RM 9.3 / 215
iTunes Widget: 5.3 / 200
Unit Converter: 7.8 / 208
Tile Game: 5 /196
Calculator: 4.9 / 181
Address Book: 7.6 / 209
World Clock: 5.8 / 198
Stocks: 7.3 / 198
The Mac has total of 512MB ram btw.
Make of this what you will
those numbers sound quite reasonable
Originally posted by Hobbes
CPU isn't bad. Memory for each active widget about 15-25MB of RAM, IIRC.
This dosnt making sense seeing as widgets are made from HTML and CSS. It seems to me that most of that 15-25 MB is the eye candy, which you might be able to disable.
Originally posted by icfireball
This dosnt making sense seeing as widgets are made from HTML and CSS. It seems to me that most of that 15-25 MB is the eye candy, which you might be able to disable.
see ZO's post above, the latest builds are showing like 4-8 meg/widget, that is reasonable for the background rendering and whatnot - particularly if the widget is running in a very high resolution.
I just spent 129 on an operating system, i don;t want to spend anpther 50 on an FTP client so i can mount and write to servers in finder.
Check out Fugu; it's a very good free open source SFTP client.
If you want quality *and* style, the excellent Transit 3 by Panic Software is $30.
Originally posted by ineedag5pbnow
can anyone explain the Quartz 2D extreme problem in Tiger and how to use Quartz Debug to fix it? i heard that this is an across the board bug, is this true?
You've got it turned around -- Q2DE has been turned *off* by Apple because it isn't ready for prime time yet.
Reports say it speeds the UI with a nice, noticeable boost ... but there's issues with CoreImage actions and Safari 2, esp. animated gifs.
You can, however, turn it on if you want to see for yourself, either by checking an option in the Dev Tools' Quartz Debug (it then stays on as long as it's running) or editing a plist: change Quartz2DExtremeEnabled to YES in /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist.
The word on the street is that Apple will switch Q2DE on a future 10.4.x update once they've worked the kinks out.
Originally posted by Hobbes
You've got it turned around -- Q2DE has been turned *off* by Apple because it isn't ready for prime time yet.
Reports say it speeds the UI with a nice, noticeable boost ... but there's issues with CoreImage actions and Safari 2, esp. animated gifs.
You can, however, turn it on if you want to see for yourself, either by checking an option in the Dev Tools' Quartz Debug (it then stays on as long as it's running) or editing a plist: change Quartz2DExtremeEnabled to YES in /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist.
The word on the street is that Apple will switch Q2DE on a future 10.4.x update once they've worked the kinks out.
aha! i see now...thanx, now i feel better...
That would be Amazing imo.