I called the Apple Store again today, and after talking with several people and being transfered to several departments, I was told that the 17" PowerBook would ship out on the 16th-18th for developers. All other customers will ship out in 2-3 weeks. Lucky for me, I ordered thru a developer. I've been waiting since Jan 10th for mine.
I'll let everyone know if I recieve a shipping confirmation.
The 17 at the applestore in northtidge won't even turn on. I know because I tried and I asked. it is just a pretty piece of Aluminium on a rotating stand. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
According to <a href="http://www.macnn.com/news/18790" target="_blank">MacNN</a> Apple shipped their first 17 inch PB, bu tonly to resellers. Hopefully it will be shipping to preorders soon.
<strong>The 17 at the applestore in northtidge won't even turn on. I know because I tried and I asked. it is just a pretty piece of Aluminium on a rotating stand. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
The one at The Grove was useable for a while but is now a piece of metal on a stand. Not a good feeling considering I am throwing 3k at it.
more like 4k when you add backpack, 512 more ram and 3 year warrantee.
I am not sure what the problem could be. I mean it is not like they have never put a G4 in a 1" thin case before. If anything I would expect fewer problems than the TI. I mean yes its thin but you have alot more width and depth. components are farther apart and have less of a problem with heat. Their are only 3 new things in the AI for crying out loud,
*Firewire 800
*backlit keybord
*built in bluetooth
everything else is an upgrade from the TI. one would asume that apple have improved performance / reliability on everthing from its knowledge of TI maintanence, I would expect the AI to be a more reliable machine than the TI. Then again what do I know?
My guess is that they must have gotten faulty components. Probably the 2Xsuperdrive is breaking so they are putting 1X's in them until they get a working 2X model.
Their are only 3 new things in the AI for crying out loud,
*Firewire 800
*backlit keybord
*built in bluetooth
everything else is an upgrade from the TI. </strong><hr></blockquote>
The 17" has a 167MHz motherboard which should speed it up a good bit over the TI. Currently my 400 mhz Pismo maxed with RAM is faster than my wife's 600 mhz iBook with 640 RAM - major difference is system bus speed in the Pismo's favor in spite of the iBook being 18 months newer model.
So, has anyone here recieved a shpping notice from Apple? My dealer was out Friday, getting married Saturday (the nerve of him - I'm waiting for my PowerBook). Hopefully I'll hear that it is in route soon.
Can't wait for someone with a functioning unit to post a review. Actually, I more interested in receiving mine.
Well, it's Tuesday morning and it seems the first 17" PowerBooks should reach customers by tomorrow morning. I've been scouring the net reading forums with tracking info. I really need to get a life.
I still have not recieved a shipping confirmation from Apple. But since I ordered thru a developer, and he has been out getting married, I suppose that still doesn't mean mine isn't en route. He should be back in the office today, so I hope to hear soon that it will be here by Thursday.
Yahoo! I finally saw the 17-inch PowerBook at my local AppleStore on Friday night and it's not nearly as big an clunky as I expected it to be. The thin form-factor makes it look smaller than it actually is.
I'm still lusting after a 12-inch PowerBook, but am waiting for Rev.B to ship with 1Ghz G4, 1GB RAM, DVI-out and OS X 10.3 Panther this fall. I wonder how an Aluminum 15-inch PowerBook will make the 12-inch and 17-inch look.
Hey, these developer notes were posted in a seperate thread, However, I think it realy belongs here. Its a 90 page document which tells you pretty much everything about the Powerbook 17 (AKA Hammerhead)
I just spoke with my sales guy - a Developer, not a retailer. He informs me that Apple only shipped 150 units, and that was to show that some indeed did ship this quarter. They are still having production problems, so had these specially built. They also hand picked who recieves them.
As much as I would love to see them all ship and be flawless units, I kinda don't think that will happen. I bought the orignal TiBook just after it was announce and loved it. I did have to have it sent in once for replacement of the DVD drive, but otherwise thought it was wonderful.
There is hope I'll still receive one this week. ;-)
He did say my Brenthaven bag was due to be delivered today.
Frankly, I'm having a hard time buying the "Only 150, hand-picked people!". I bought the 17" stock on Jan. 10. I've never owned a Mac before. There is no reason why they would pick me out of everyone else. More likely THEY ARE FULFILLING THE ORDERS AS THEY WERE RECEIVED.
Frankly, I'm having a hard time buying the "Only 150, hand-picked people!". I bought the 17" stock on Jan. 10. I've never owned a Mac before. There is no reason why they would pick me out of everyone else. More likely THEY ARE FULFILLING THE ORDERS AS THEY WERE RECEIVED.
Yahoo! I finally saw the 17-inch PowerBook at my local AppleStore on Friday night and it's not nearly as big an clunky as I expected it to be. The thin form-factor makes it look smaller than it actually is.
I'm still lusting after a 12-inch PowerBook, but am waiting for Rev.B to ship with 1Ghz G4, 1GB RAM, DVI-out and OS X 10.3 Panther this fall. I wonder how an Aluminum 15-inch PowerBook will make the 12-inch and 17-inch look.
Escher
Hey Escher, so how did it feel to open, close and hold? More rigid than the Ti? How about the display brightness? and last question, did the area around the keyboard seem strangely vast or is it so thin you don't notice how much computer (warm?) is under your wrists?
Thanks in advance! I'm also hoping the 12" has a lighted keyboard by Fall as well.
MacGregor: The 17-inch PowerBook at the Apple Store was on display in the window, which unfortunately meant no touching. However, two guys over on MacNN have received their 17-inch PowerBooks and posted a bunch of great pictures and reports. Check out the following:
Frankly, I'm having a hard time buying the "Only 150, hand-picked people!". I bought the 17" stock on Jan. 10. I've never owned a Mac before. There is no reason why they would pick me out of everyone else. More likely THEY ARE FULFILLING THE ORDERS AS THEY WERE RECEIVED.
You would think that would be the case, but then explain how several Apple Retail Stores have had several for sale for walk-ins. There was a posting on another site that the Cambridge store received 6 and, of course, sold out immediately.
Also, it has been reported on other forums that people who ordered on Jan 7th have not received shipping notices, while someone who ordered on the 10th did.
I ordered thru a developer who offered me a special deal. He was allocated two units this shipment and was told the rest would start trickling in during the next 2-3 weeks. Luckily he agreed to send me one of those he recieved. Should have mine by Friday! I'l hear more today.
I've been a Macintosh user since 1984, yes since the original one. I am a huge Apple fan and am not trying to spread FUD. I just want everyone to temper their enthusiasm so they will be pleasantly surprised their new 17" Laptop DOES arrive.
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I'll let everyone know if I recieve a shipping confirmation.
Terry
<strong>The 17 at the applestore in northtidge won't even turn on. I know because I tried and I asked. it is just a pretty piece of Aluminium on a rotating stand. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
The one at The Grove was useable for a while but is now a piece of metal on a stand. Not a good feeling considering I am throwing 3k at it.
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
[ 03-15-2003: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</p>
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The one at The Grove was useable for a while but is now a piece of metal on a stand. Not a good feeling considering I am throwing 3k at it.
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
[ 03-15-2003: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
more like 4k when you add backpack, 512 more ram and 3 year warrantee.
I am not sure what the problem could be. I mean it is not like they have never put a G4 in a 1" thin case before. If anything I would expect fewer problems than the TI. I mean yes its thin but you have alot more width and depth. components are farther apart and have less of a problem with heat. Their are only 3 new things in the AI for crying out loud,
*Firewire 800
*backlit keybord
*built in bluetooth
everything else is an upgrade from the TI. one would asume that apple have improved performance / reliability on everthing from its knowledge of TI maintanence, I would expect the AI to be a more reliable machine than the TI. Then again what do I know?
My guess is that they must have gotten faulty components. Probably the 2Xsuperdrive is breaking so they are putting 1X's in them until they get a working 2X model.
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Their are only 3 new things in the AI for crying out loud,
*Firewire 800
*backlit keybord
*built in bluetooth
everything else is an upgrade from the TI. </strong><hr></blockquote>
The 17" has a 167MHz motherboard which should speed it up a good bit over the TI. Currently my 400 mhz Pismo maxed with RAM is faster than my wife's 600 mhz iBook with 640 RAM - major difference is system bus speed in the Pismo's favor in spite of the iBook being 18 months newer model.
Can't wait for someone with a functioning unit to post a review. Actually, I more interested in receiving mine.
[QB]So, has anyone here recieved a shpping notice from Apple?[/QB<hr></blockquote>
I did Saturday morning! Right now it is still sitting in Taiwan, but I have second day air so I am hoping Tuesday.
And yes, I'll post a bunch of pictures.
[ 03-16-2003: Message edited by: FlashBIOS ]</p>
I still have not recieved a shipping confirmation from Apple. But since I ordered thru a developer, and he has been out getting married, I suppose that still doesn't mean mine isn't en route. He should be back in the office today, so I hope to hear soon that it will be here by Thursday.
Anyone else expecting one soon?
Terry
Found this on Apple's discussion boards:
http://homepage.mac.com/jtaylor.mac/PhotoAlbum9.html
Originally posted by catalyst
Someone has gotten his!
Found this on Apple's discussion boards:
http://homepage.mac.com/jtaylor.mac/PhotoAlbum9.html
You mean other than Steve Jobs:eek:
Originally posted by catalyst
Found this on Apple's discussion boards:
http://homepage.mac.com/jtaylor.mac/PhotoAlbum9.html
Yahoo! I finally saw the 17-inch PowerBook at my local AppleStore on Friday night and it's not nearly as big an clunky as I expected it to be. The thin form-factor makes it look smaller than it actually is.
I'm still lusting after a 12-inch PowerBook, but am waiting for Rev.B to ship with 1Ghz G4, 1GB RAM, DVI-out and OS X 10.3 Panther this fall. I wonder how an Aluminum 15-inch PowerBook will make the 12-inch and 17-inch look.
Escher
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/...nch/index.html
As much as I would love to see them all ship and be flawless units, I kinda don't think that will happen. I bought the orignal TiBook just after it was announce and loved it. I did have to have it sent in once for replacement of the DVD drive, but otherwise thought it was wonderful.
There is hope I'll still receive one this week. ;-)
He did say my Brenthaven bag was due to be delivered today.
TBoxman
Originally posted by Radiosity
Frankly, I'm having a hard time buying the "Only 150, hand-picked people!". I bought the 17" stock on Jan. 10. I've never owned a Mac before. There is no reason why they would pick me out of everyone else. More likely THEY ARE FULFILLING THE ORDERS AS THEY WERE RECEIVED.
AMEN
Originally posted by Escher
Yahoo! I finally saw the 17-inch PowerBook at my local AppleStore on Friday night and it's not nearly as big an clunky as I expected it to be. The thin form-factor makes it look smaller than it actually is.
I'm still lusting after a 12-inch PowerBook, but am waiting for Rev.B to ship with 1Ghz G4, 1GB RAM, DVI-out and OS X 10.3 Panther this fall. I wonder how an Aluminum 15-inch PowerBook will make the 12-inch and 17-inch look.
Escher
Hey Escher, so how did it feel to open, close and hold? More rigid than the Ti? How about the display brightness? and last question, did the area around the keyboard seem strangely vast or is it so thin you don't notice how much computer (warm?) is under your wrists?
Thanks in advance! I'm also hoping the 12" has a lighted keyboard by Fall as well.
(1) Ken Mingis' I just picked up my 17" and
(2) Karim's PowerBook 17" Review threads.
Vicarious enjoyment of new harware. How fun!
Escher
Originally posted by Radiosity
Frankly, I'm having a hard time buying the "Only 150, hand-picked people!". I bought the 17" stock on Jan. 10. I've never owned a Mac before. There is no reason why they would pick me out of everyone else. More likely THEY ARE FULFILLING THE ORDERS AS THEY WERE RECEIVED.
You would think that would be the case, but then explain how several Apple Retail Stores have had several for sale for walk-ins. There was a posting on another site that the Cambridge store received 6 and, of course, sold out immediately.
Also, it has been reported on other forums that people who ordered on Jan 7th have not received shipping notices, while someone who ordered on the 10th did.
I ordered thru a developer who offered me a special deal. He was allocated two units this shipment and was told the rest would start trickling in during the next 2-3 weeks. Luckily he agreed to send me one of those he recieved. Should have mine by Friday! I'l hear more today.
I've been a Macintosh user since 1984, yes since the original one. I am a huge Apple fan and am not trying to spread FUD. I just want everyone to temper their enthusiasm so they will be pleasantly surprised their new 17" Laptop DOES arrive.
Terry