Tiger slower than Panther on 12" iBook G4?
It certainly seems slower on my 12" iBook G4 with 768MB RAM. I'm seeing the spinning beachball a LOT more than I used to with Panther...
Is this something I will just have to put up with? Are other 12" iBook users finding the same thing? And (please!) is there any chance that a future update might help with this?
Is this something I will just have to put up with? Are other 12" iBook users finding the same thing? And (please!) is there any chance that a future update might help with this?
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After doing an upgrade of tiger over 10.3.9 and finding that everything slowed to slower than a slug on valium, i carefully backed everything up and formated the HD & installed a fresh copy of tiger.
Since then, i haven't seen the dreaded beachball of doom once.
(one note of mention though: when transfering your data back to your ibook, DON'T start the ibook in firewire disk mode to do it. I have found that Spotlight does NOT index files that were copied back while the system is not running. - i have since copied all my data back twice now....not a big deal really, but still worth a mention)
Originally posted by french macuser
Clean install.
I did a clean install, not an upgrade, when I installed Tiger. So that shouldn't be the problem.
And the processor speed is 1.2 GHz. It's not an old machine - just six months old...
Originally posted by adamclark
I did a clean install, not an upgrade, when I installed Tiger. So that shouldn't be the problem.
And the processor speed is 1.2 GHz. It's not an old machine - just six months old...
I get the beachball LOTS On my mini - I did the upgrade - I plan to reinstall tiger from scratch when .1 comes out...unless any one knows how to speed this thing up...
Originally posted by progmac
what's all this reinstalling from scratch crap? i thought i used a Mac OS, not Windows.
You're using a computer. Regardless of the OS, sometimes you just have to wipe and reinstall from scratch to get rid of the useless crap left in your old OS install.
Think of it like changing the oil in your car. If you really want to improve performance, you drain the old oil before putting new in.
(Kesh ducks thrown tomatoes from those who hate computer <-> car analogies.
I just wish I had more disk space, but that's coming...
Originally posted by Kesh
You're using a computer. Regardless of the OS, sometimes you just have to wipe and reinstall from scratch to get rid of the useless crap left in your old OS install.
Think of it like changing the oil in your car. If you really want to improve performance, you drain the old oil before putting new in.
(Kesh ducks thrown tomatoes from those who hate computer <-> car analogies.
yeah i know. but it sucks. can't someone do something about it?
Originally posted by Ensoniq
While I wouldn't say it's "slow", my 1.2 GHz iBook 12" doesn't seem mega-snappy under Tiger. But I'm assuming the 10.4.1 update may fix that a little. (I also did a full reformat/clean install on the iBook.)
That would be the graphics cards that sit in the iBooks. I have noticed BIG improvements on my PowerBook with 128MB VRAM. 32MB RAM is not enough - hopefully they upgrade the iBooks soon - iMacs have great graphics now.
Is it a good idea to enable QE 2D with the flag that lets it work on 32 megs? Would that make thing slower or faster?
And will Tiger be faster or slower, does everyone think, on a PowerBook 12" G4 867mhz, with 640 megs of RAM?
Thanks for everyone's input!
Originally posted by Aquatic
What the hell do you mean 32 is not enough? I'm not mad at you, just mad if this is true at Apple. So far Apple has been kicking ass making OS X get faster and faster. I paid $2100 for my top of the line PowerBook 12" just last year. I will be pissed if I buy Tiger and it's slower than Panther, at ANYTHING. I am actually buying Tiger this time. I'm getting the Ed price so I figure I should, since I stole Panther.
Is it a good idea to enable QE 2D with the flag that lets it work on 32 megs? Would that make thing slower or faster?
And will Tiger be faster or slower, does everyone think, on a PowerBook 12" G4 867mhz, with 640 megs of RAM?
Thanks for everyone's input!
You've got to remember the 32MB GPU that's in the iBooks is different to the PowerBook cards. They used the same GPU in the eMacs until recently. They now have 64MB. 32MB probably is enough - but the more video RAM the better - GPU processing is really beginning to be used - in both Windows and Mac OS X.
Also it's not just the amount or VRAM - it's the card. My 600MHz G3 was faster than my granddad's PowerMac 400MHz G4 until he got Mac OS X. His 16MB GPU supported Quartz Extreme and was noticeably faster - even though my iMac had a newer graphics card and also 16MB.
You can try hacking the the plist manually or download "extremePCI" hackware to modify the plist to accept 32MB VRAM for QE activation.
This should help with sluggishness.
Originally posted by bitemymac
try turning on QE. QE requirement went up with Tiger. It now requires 512MB SDRAM and 64MB VRAM to activate QE by default. Any machine, portable or desktop below this spec will turn off QE by default.
You can try hacking the the plist manually or download "extremePCI" hackware to modify the plist to accept 32MB VRAM for QE activation.
This should help with sluggishness.
Why did they upgrade the specs needed for Quartz Extreme? Does this mean that cube transition will no longer work on computers that previously did it? I thought QE gave massive speed improvements to basic window moving/resizing. This seems silly - they should have made a new graphics level and kept Extreme on.
Originally posted by krgermane
I'm on an iMac 800 Mhz G4 with a GeForce2 32 MB video card, 512 MB RAM. All of the Quartz Extreme processes (cube effect, RSS screensaver, etc.) work fine for me.
I did think it would be a little strange to make people's computers slower. Mine has got faster.
Originally posted by bitemymac
try turning on QE. QE requirement went up with Tiger. It now requires 512MB SDRAM and 64MB VRAM to activate QE by default. Any machine, portable or desktop below this spec will turn off QE by default.
You can try hacking the the plist manually or download "extremePCI" hackware to modify the plist to accept 32MB VRAM for QE activation.
This should help with sluggishness.
Totaly great...lots of speed recovery - turning something on made stuff faster - shockled the hell outa me!
now...how can I hack Q2dE so that I can see what I am missing out on?