"Great PowerPC products in the pipeline."
To quote Steve Jobs during today's keynote address:
Is this why we haven't seen an iBook revision? Was the iBook revision preempted by the Intel for Mac announcement so that iBooks could prove that there's still life left to Apple's product line until Intel?
What could these new great PowerPC products be? When do you think they will materialize?
Is an iBook speedbump a *great* PowerPC product? A G5 iMac revision? With what? Hotter 970FX's?
Discuss.
Quote:
Now, this is not going to be a transition that happens overnight. It's going to happen over a period of a few years. Again, we've got great products right now. And we've got some great PowerPC products in the pipeline yet to be introduced.
Now, this is not going to be a transition that happens overnight. It's going to happen over a period of a few years. Again, we've got great products right now. And we've got some great PowerPC products in the pipeline yet to be introduced.
Is this why we haven't seen an iBook revision? Was the iBook revision preempted by the Intel for Mac announcement so that iBooks could prove that there's still life left to Apple's product line until Intel?
What could these new great PowerPC products be? When do you think they will materialize?
Is an iBook speedbump a *great* PowerPC product? A G5 iMac revision? With what? Hotter 970FX's?
Discuss.
Comments
Originally posted by Outsider
I bet the MP will still make an appearance.
I don't think so. Apple will want to bump the existing lines just enough to keep people buying, but not so much that performance will increase too much relative to existing Power Macs and people start to question the need to switch to Intel all over again.
Gotta keep sales of PowerPC Mac going between now and 2006, I guess.
But the reality seems to be a 1.8 GHz 7448 Powerbook G4 in August or so. Whence that happens, iBooks can be upgraded to 1.5 GHz G4s. These are essentially cheap, near zero cost bin swaps.
I'm still expecting a 970mp PowerMac G5 as well where the 970mp is a drop in replacement for the 970fx board. 50/50 on the possibility of PCIe making it onto the board though.
in the keynote, jobs infers that the development hardware is just a board
that fits inside the g5 chassis, using existing power and peripherals. no?
I don't think so. Apple will want to bump the existing lines just enough to keep people buying, but not so much that performance will increase too much relative to existing Power Macs and people start to question the need to switch to Intel all over again.
The decision has been made. That's it. Apple needs to do whatever the hell it can to convince people to buy PowerPC Macs.
I, personally, think someone has to drop big coin on a PowerPC PowerMac at this point without a significant upgrade or price drop very soon.
To sell everyone on switching to Intel Jobs had to knife the PowerPC. It worked, most of us believed it a long ass time ago (though I had no freaking inkling that something like this would actually happen, I still feel like I'm in bizarro world).
I really don't see how they can sell a dual 2.7ghz PowerMac for $3k with a straight face at this point.
"This line sucks and we're replacing it... but... you know, buy it until the new stuff comes out anyway. Thanks."
Originally posted by retiarius
isn't the first "powerpc product" really the $999 3.6gHz mactel transition kit?
in the keynote, jobs infers that the development hardware is just a board
that fits inside the g5 chassis, using existing power and peripherals. no?
No. It has a Pentium 4 inside it, therefore it's not a PowerPC product. It's also a development machine, not a consumer product.
Originally posted by FotNS
I don't think so. Apple will want to bump the existing lines just enough to keep people buying, but not so much that performance will increase too much relative to existing Power Macs and people start to question the need to switch to Intel all over again.
Don't be a silly.
Originally posted by frawgz
No. It has a Pentium 4 inside it, therefore it's not a PowerPC product. It's also a development machine, not a consumer product.
granted, but if that's the physical form it takes, current g5 owners
don't need to ditch existing gear next year --
just do a board swap when the bugs are shaken out.
Originally posted by cj171
the powermacs still blow away most pcs for its price range...just the future looked gloomy with ibm
This could not be further from being true.
Let's take the top-end G5 completely stock.
Dual 2.7ghz G5
512MB PC3200 RAM
250GB SATA HD
Radeon 9650 256MB
Dual-Layer DVD-burner (16x)
$2999
Let's take the Alienware Aurora 7500
Athlon64 3800+
1GB PC3200 RAM
250GB SATA HD
Dual nVidia 6800 GT (PCI-Express) w/ SLI
Dual-Layer DVD-burner (16x)
$2991
Apple ties on the HD and DVD-Burner, and loses on everything else. Loses absolutely ridiculously embarrassingly huge on the video card situation as well.
Originally posted by groverat
TDual 2.7ghz G5
Let's take the Alienware Aurora 7500
Athlon64 3800+
Apple ties on the HD and DVD-Burner, and loses on everything else. Loses absolutely ridiculously embarrassingly huge on the video card situation as well.
A G5 and an Athlon 64 are for the most part equal clock to clock. IE, a 2.5 GHz 970fx = 2.5 GHz Athlon 64.
Of all the computers you chose to compare, the dual 2.7 GHz is the most competitive price/performance wise. It's about at parity short of unique things like SLI. Game performance goes w/o saying. Content creation they are about equal.
The low end and laptops, however, are embarrassing.
stevie? how bout some new laptops tomorrow? gotta catch those grads
Originally posted by Outsider
I bet the MP will still make an appearance.
They've got three years to do it. Maybe, just maybe, IBM will provide it before then.
Originally posted by groverat
I really don't see how they can sell a dual 2.7ghz PowerMac for $3k with a straight face at this point.
Do you think Apple's pricing will be much different with an Intel chip? I don't. Maybe a hundred dollars less but not much more.
Of course, people will compare a new Intel-based Mac and expect it to be comparable in price to say a Dell. But I'm guessing, we'll still be paying a premium to own a Mac. Not saying it's right...but some things just don't change.
Originally posted by groverat
I really don't see how they can sell a dual 2.7ghz PowerMac for $3k with a straight face at this point.
"This line sucks and we're replacing it... but... you know, buy it until the new stuff comes out anyway. Thanks."
Yes, I am in this situation, I want to update to the fastest Mac available. But pay $3k seems to harsh and stupid. And the problem is, I am tired of waiting.
So now I am totally lost. Hopefully price cuts will follow very soon.
Originally posted by gugy
Yes, I am in this situation, I want to update to the fastest Mac available. But pay $3k seems to harsh and stupid. And the problem is, I am tired of waiting.
So now I am totally lost. Hopefully price cuts will follow very soon.
eBay... prices gotta start fallin' hard and fast on G5 machines.