I find it amazing that this update is ahead of schedule. When what the last time you heard of any software development project being ahead of schedule?
Me: never.
What is going on here? Is Apple really becoming the complete opposite of Microsoft.
What's the point when iTunes automatically connects to the CDDB?
It would be nice if when you burned a cd from iTunes it would include the Track info as CD-EXTRA so it displays on my car cd player. That way I can stop using Toast and do it directly in iTunes.
I'm still wondering when Apple enters the "pro" market for music playback. DJs love their products, but neither iPod nor iTunes have any functionality adressing this market. How hard can it be to add pitch control and mixing? Where's the proPod? Where's proTunes?
Hmmm...well it could be that they are too busy selling millions to consumers to be overly concerned about selling thousands to the DJ market. Just a guess though.
They probably think their resources are better directed to setting up something like this podcasting stuff which will add yet more value to the current iPod, not to mention provide another hook for ptentially millions of consumers.
...all I want is folders for the playlists, iPhoto got it. If they don't put it in i'm going to, well, do nothing, but it's a simple and useful addition which I can't understand why it's not already implemented.
...all I want is folders for the playlists, iPhoto got it. If they don't put it in i'm going to, well, do nothing, but it's a simple and useful addition which I can't understand why it's not already implemented.
What I want, is more support for other formats. I realize they have the majority of the market covered by supporting .mp3 and to a lesser extent .aac, but some people (not too many, but a significant amount) have a lot of music encoded in .FLAC or something like .mpc.
It wouldn't be bad if they added support for at least FLAC. I realize they got their own Lossless format, but I already have more than 300 CDs encoded in FLAC (which I'm very happy with) and don't plan to do it yet again in .MP4.
It wouldn't be bad if they added support for at least FLAC. I realize they got their own Lossless format, but I already have more than 300 CDs encoded in FLAC (which I'm very happy with) and don't plan to do it yet again in .MP4.
We all know that going from lossy to lossy causes a degration in audio quality, but if you have your music in a (near-)lossless format already, wouldn't a convert cause zero or an unnoticable quality loss? That way you could convert to mp4 or whatever.
Yeah, FLAC & SHN compatibility would be superb, and i'm sure not very hard to implement. I'd be happy if iTunes just re-encoded FLAC & SHN to Lossless so I didn't have to do it in a bunch of other programs, like it does for WMA.
Oh, and now i'm thinking about it, a quicker way to change what format you want to encode to, like an arrow drop down box when you right click, instead of just the preference set for import.
We all know that going from lossy to lossy causes a degration in audio quality, but if you have your music in a (near-)lossless format already, wouldn't a convert cause zero or an unnoticable quality loss? That way you could convert to mp4 or whatever.
FLAC isn't near lossless, it is 100% lossless. xACT and FLACer can do batch conversions to AIFF, which can then be converted to Apple Lossless in iTunes .
FLAC isn't near lossless, it is 100% lossless. xACT and FLACer can do batch conversions to AIFF, which can then be converted to Apple Lossless in iTunes .
Yeah, but why did Apple have to bother making their own lossless format, when there were already several out there? And why can't they just add support for it. Geesh. Who wants to auto/batch/manually convert 300 albums, anyway? Esp. if there isn't a valid reason to need to do it. Hell, we're not talking about music in WMA-encrpyted format or anything.
Even if it ended up being "We can do it in itunes, but the iPod will need to have them auto-converted to AppleLossless or something, like it does to sync the shuffle.
And while we're complaining, OGG support would be nice too.
And, how about direct bit-torrent and Limewire support. So we can go fishing for some new music, download it, and have it immediately installed and ready to play in iTunes! Now that would be a boon of automation, more so than the boring world of podcasts!
And, how about direct bit-torrent and Limewire support. So we can go fishing for some new music, download it, and have it immediately installed and ready to play in iTunes!
Because the recording industry would come after Steve Jobs with an axe...and wouldn't stop until there were a thousand "little Steves". That's why.
Apple made their own loseless format because of airport express.
And podcasting is the best thing that have happened to iTunes in a long time, even more than ITMS
What in the hell does airport express have to do with their own format. Are they completely and utterly incapable of figuring out how to send FLAC or some other existing lossless format over the airwaves? It certainly has nothing to do with encryption. And the file sizes are relatively the same. Its just Apple again re-inventing something rather than using an existing standard.
And, umm, don't think so on the whole podcast more important than iTMS. Might be your opinion, but unless sales of podcasts outsell music, its not even close.
BTW, to Chris Cuilla, bit-torrent support was a joke.
But if you think about it, it would be sweet, wouldn't it!
What in the hell does airport express have to do with their own format. Are they completely and utterly incapable of figuring out how to send FLAC or some other existing lossless format over the airwaves? It certainly has nothing to do with encryption. And the file sizes are relatively the same. Its just Apple again re-inventing something rather than using an existing standard.
The lossless world is a jungle of different formats (flac, ape, shn, wv, etc) and there is no single format that is the standard (like mp3). I think it's likely that Apple's original plan was to go with MPEG-4 SLS 'Scalable Lossless Coding' which is fully backwards compatible with AAC, but as that format took years to complete (it still isn't finalized) and its closest rivals such as MS and Real all made their own codecs, they just decided to make their own format that they could have full control over and put in their MPEG4 container (.m4a). This way they can optimize it for high performance on the iPod and AE from the ground up and don't worry about steep licensing fees.
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Originally posted by jms698
I find it amazing that this update is ahead of schedule. When what the last time you heard of any software development project being ahead of schedule?
Me: never.
What is going on here? Is Apple really becoming the complete opposite of Microsoft.
Tiger was early, too.
Originally posted by Aquatic
CD-TEXT.
What's the point when iTunes automatically connects to the CDDB?
Originally posted by CrunchinJelly
What's the point when iTunes automatically connects to the CDDB?
It would be nice if when you burned a cd from iTunes it would include the Track info as CD-EXTRA so it displays on my car cd player. That way I can stop using Toast and do it directly in iTunes.
Originally posted by mrhatken
I think podcasting audio blogs, news programs, and other free content is just a non-threatening way of getting into this space.
I think the real goal is podcasting TV programs. It's the way TV should be done and TiVo tried to do (within the current broadcasting paradigm).
You'll own what you download (most likely) with fair DRM.
It's the next generation TV.
Cheers,
Ashley.
Best idea in this thread!
Originally posted by PrettyBoyClone
I'm still wondering when Apple enters the "pro" market for music playback. DJs love their products, but neither iPod nor iTunes have any functionality adressing this market. How hard can it be to add pitch control and mixing? Where's the proPod? Where's proTunes?
Second best idea in this thread!
Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
Hmmm...well it could be that they are too busy selling millions to consumers to be overly concerned about selling thousands to the DJ market. Just a guess though.
They probably think their resources are better directed to setting up something like this podcasting stuff which will add yet more value to the current iPod, not to mention provide another hook for ptentially millions of consumers.
http://www.ipod-dj.com/
Originally posted by 666
...all I want is folders for the playlists, iPhoto got it. If they don't put it in i'm going to, well, do nothing, but it's a simple and useful addition which I can't understand why it's not already implemented.
That's the third best idea in this thread.
It wouldn't be bad if they added support for at least FLAC. I realize they got their own Lossless format, but I already have more than 300 CDs encoded in FLAC (which I'm very happy with) and don't plan to do it yet again in .MP4.
Ah well.
Originally posted by Gene Clean
It wouldn't be bad if they added support for at least FLAC. I realize they got their own Lossless format, but I already have more than 300 CDs encoded in FLAC (which I'm very happy with) and don't plan to do it yet again in .MP4.
We all know that going from lossy to lossy causes a degration in audio quality, but if you have your music in a (near-)lossless format already, wouldn't a convert cause zero or an unnoticable quality loss? That way you could convert to mp4 or whatever.
Oh, and now i'm thinking about it, a quicker way to change what format you want to encode to, like an arrow drop down box when you right click, instead of just the preference set for import.
Originally posted by coolfactor
We all know that going from lossy to lossy causes a degration in audio quality, but if you have your music in a (near-)lossless format already, wouldn't a convert cause zero or an unnoticable quality loss? That way you could convert to mp4 or whatever.
FLAC isn't near lossless, it is 100% lossless. xACT and FLACer can do batch conversions to AIFF, which can then be converted to Apple Lossless in iTunes .
Originally posted by Sopphode
FLAC isn't near lossless, it is 100% lossless. xACT and FLACer can do batch conversions to AIFF, which can then be converted to Apple Lossless in iTunes .
Yeah, but why did Apple have to bother making their own lossless format, when there were already several out there? And why can't they just add support for it. Geesh. Who wants to auto/batch/manually convert 300 albums, anyway? Esp. if there isn't a valid reason to need to do it. Hell, we're not talking about music in WMA-encrpyted format or anything.
Even if it ended up being "We can do it in itunes, but the iPod will need to have them auto-converted to AppleLossless or something, like it does to sync the shuffle.
And while we're complaining, OGG support would be nice too.
And, how about direct bit-torrent and Limewire support. So we can go fishing for some new music, download it, and have it immediately installed and ready to play in iTunes! Now that would be a boon of automation, more so than the boring world of podcasts!
And podcasting is the best thing that have happened to iTunes in a long time, even more than ITMS
Originally posted by Louzer
And, how about direct bit-torrent and Limewire support. So we can go fishing for some new music, download it, and have it immediately installed and ready to play in iTunes!
Because the recording industry would come after Steve Jobs with an axe...and wouldn't stop until there were a thousand "little Steves". That's why.
Originally posted by Anders
Apple made their own loseless format because of airport express.
And podcasting is the best thing that have happened to iTunes in a long time, even more than ITMS
What in the hell does airport express have to do with their own format. Are they completely and utterly incapable of figuring out how to send FLAC or some other existing lossless format over the airwaves? It certainly has nothing to do with encryption. And the file sizes are relatively the same. Its just Apple again re-inventing something rather than using an existing standard.
And, umm, don't think so on the whole podcast more important than iTMS. Might be your opinion, but unless sales of podcasts outsell music, its not even close.
BTW, to Chris Cuilla, bit-torrent support was a joke.
But if you think about it, it would be sweet, wouldn't it!
Originally posted by Louzer
What in the hell does airport express have to do with their own format. Are they completely and utterly incapable of figuring out how to send FLAC or some other existing lossless format over the airwaves? It certainly has nothing to do with encryption. And the file sizes are relatively the same. Its just Apple again re-inventing something rather than using an existing standard.
The lossless world is a jungle of different formats (flac, ape, shn, wv, etc) and there is no single format that is the standard (like mp3). I think it's likely that Apple's original plan was to go with MPEG-4 SLS 'Scalable Lossless Coding' which is fully backwards compatible with AAC, but as that format took years to complete (it still isn't finalized) and its closest rivals such as MS and Real all made their own codecs, they just decided to make their own format that they could have full control over and put in their MPEG4 container (.m4a). This way they can optimize it for high performance on the iPod and AE from the ground up and don't worry about steep licensing fees.
Just my 2¢