I think people have to remember that the iPod can be connected to a TV. iPod Photo, yes? So the size of the screen in terms of watching music videos is less of a concern to me. I think most people will watch the videos on their computers or TV.
It could work, yes, but it'd spoil the design as the ipod has carefully been designed to have the "perfect" proportions. We'll see, but I think if they do have a video ipod it'll be more of a bonus (like photos are now) - perhaps with a tottally new design (but similar shape)...
Why are we going to have to pay to download advertising? Music videos are used to promote the song and artist. Its essentially an ad, not a product. I'll just keep watching MTV/VH1 at 3 AM. (Plus I can already watch music videos free on comcast on-demand).
Look down at the Sean John shirt you are wearing and ask that again.
Anyway, who couldn't see this coming? Of course this is the direction they are heading. Hmmm, suddenly iTunes becomes a quicktime player and Photo iPods come out. Music videos start appearing in iTunes music store. Hmmmm, do you think that maybe a phone could be in the mix? Perhaps Steve like most of us realized he had too many gadgets with him. An iPod, a phone, PDA, car stereo head unit, etc... DUH! Of course an iPod capable of videos will be out soon. It is the natural evolution of Apple making the legion of think different creative types into good little lemmings. As Dogcow notes, music videos are used to promote songs and we will soon be buying them like the good little consumers we are. But Apple has made it cool to be one. And they are about to merge all of our techno needs into one device that can play our music anywhere (home, bus, car), phone home, keep our calendars, addressbook, and be an extension of our TV. This way we never have to be with ourselves. Always stimulated, wherever we go.
Why are we going to have to pay to download advertising?
You might not, but it's virtually guaranteed that someone would. I know dozens of people who work in the ad industry who gladly pay $100 a year or more to download copies of the latest TV commercials.
It's simply a matter of supply and demand. It's worth $1.99 because that's what the market is willing to bear. Apple's early entries in the iTunes Music Store were a test to see if people would bite, and clearly the test showed a significant amount of demand at that price point.
I'm not saying this will be huge, just that enough people must have shown their willingness to buy for it to be worthwhile for the suppliers to offer videos for sale. Personally, it'd have to be a damn good video for me to pay for the download; I'm rarely interested in viewing one more than once. The same for most TV programs and movies, both of which I view a lot more of than music videos.
I'd prefer a more podcast-like subscription service for video, which allows me to download selected programs automatically as new episodes appear, but doesn't require me to have the massive amount of storage to save them for all eternity. Bandwidth aside, video takes serious disk space. I don't care to own my movies and TV shows the way I like to own my music. I think most people are perfectly happy with a rental model (e.g. Cable TV, Blockbuster, Netflix) when it comes to video.
Okay, so using a video iPod for music videos seems really stupid. I mean who the hell cares? How about a video iPod that can play actual movies? Talk about a huge market!
Come on, who is going to watch The Wizard of Oz on an iPod? Repeat after me, 'There's no place like home. There no place like ...'
Video in car is huge. Having the ability to hook up your ipod and put music/movies into the back seat for your kids is a great idea. Anywhere a DVD can be played so can a video enabled iPod. Stop thinking about the tiny screen. There are plenty of other screens the movies can be viewed on.
Chris Holland writes "Beyond the WSJ Story, Om Malik gives us inside information obtained by Business 2.0 Magazine about the Apple Video iPod. 'Steve Jobs has spoken with Disney President and soon-to-be CEO Bob Iger about ways to license various Disney content for a video iPod, according to an internal Disney email I have obtained. That could include anything from clips from ESPN and ABC News to short cartoons.' "
now, if the PSP could be hacked to allow the ipod video to stream movies to it... HOLY MOTHER OF MIGHTYMOUSE! That'd be sweet... But i'd need a 200gig ipod..
Does anyone here have the skill to hack hardware that doesn't exist yet?
The brevity's the thing (of the video content) that'll catch the filthy lucre of the masses. I own a PSP. It has a great screen. However, it is simply not something you want to hold for 90 minutes to 2 hours for a movie. My experience with it is that portable gaming is all about impulse play. 5 to 10 minutes of play throughout the day.
Watching "Kill Bill" turned out the same way. One chapter here and there which can really kill (heh, sorry) the momentum of a story (perhaps Tarantino's style favors that style, but not others).
On the other hand, "The Daily Show", "Robot Chicken" and other short items would be perfect.
Full length features will not be the popular content of choice, more likely to be quality TV programmes; Sopranos, Buffy, 24, West Wing, Lost, Smallville, BG, etc etc. The Networks make more money out of selling the DVD's than from airing the shows and the user experience is much better. Absolute prime candidates for downloading. Also the BBC's entire output is to be re-commercialised outside the UK in the coming years, another prime candidate.
I also think a video iPod's on the way, but you all need to think "outside the screen" as well. Yes, the video iPod will probably be able to show content on its screen. Wouldn't many of you like to watch a video podcast of ESPN SportsCenter on your iPod on the train to work each morning? How about a playlist of your favorite music videos?
But why not also have what was mentioned earlier: Music video playlists for your parties. Portable home movies of the kids when you go over to your mom and dad's house. Portable video presentations for business people who are constantly traveling.
There are lots of possibilities for a video iPod. Will they override the music? No, but it'd be nice to have the features there.
Many of you are forgetting one critical piece that the iPod video could serve...home movies.
Just like the ipod photo and your digital pictures, the iPod video could be used to store and playback your home movies. Even iMovie could have an export setting for the iPod video. Apple could market how using iMovie can help you create great looking home movies that you can show off anywhere with your iPod video.
I see this benefit being marketed more heavily for the iPod video than playing movies and TV shows.
Many of you are forgetting one critical piece that the iPod video could serve...home movies.
Just like the ipod photo and your digital pictures, the iPod video could be used to store and playback your home movies. Even iMovie could have an export setting for the iPod video. Apple could market how using iMovie can help you create great looking home movies that you can show off anywhere with your iPod video.
I see this benefit being marketed more heavily for the iPod video than playing movies and TV shows.
Oh god, it's bad enough when my boss pulls out the wallet-sized accordion of his kids' photos. Now I'm going to have to squint at wallet-sized videos, too? How many times can you watch a kid feeding a llama on a 2" screen?
Oh god, it's bad enough when my boss pulls out the wallet-sized accordion of his kids' photos. Now I'm going to have to squint at wallet-sized videos, too? How many times can you watch a kid feeding a llama on a 2" screen?
Here you go:
1) Secure another job.
2) Ask your boss to see that video again of his kid feeding a llama.
Wouldn't the reasons it's not recommended to run OS X off an iPod (e.g. overworking its hard drive) also hold true for longer uninterrupted playback of higher quality video to external displays? If true, that would be a factor in the design of a "video iPod" with that kind of playback capability.
I also think a video iPod's on the way, but you all need to think "outside the screen" as well. Yes, the video iPod will probably be able to show content on its screen. Wouldn't many of you like to watch a video podcast of ESPN SportsCenter on your iPod on the train to work each morning? How about a playlist of your favorite music videos?
But why not also have what was mentioned earlier: Music video playlists for your parties. Portable home movies of the kids when you go over to your mom and dad's house. Portable video presentations for business people who are constantly traveling.
There are lots of possibilities for a video iPod. Will they override the music? No, but it'd be nice to have the features there.
I have been thinking outside the box and some of my thoughts are:
1 - iTunes 5.0 will allow people to transfer just the audio portion of music videos to the iPod and the audio can be burned to a CD like music can now.
2 - Video can be transfered directly to an iPod Video from a camcorder like photos from a camera can.
3 - iLife integration ('06 "required")
a - iMovie projects (music recitals, "Star Search" competitions, etc.) can be exported to iTunes.
b - Videos/Video playlists can be burned to disk using iDVD templates from within iTunes.
c - GarageBand will allow us to import the audio portion of iMovie clips so audio tracks can be deleted, added, and enhanced.
NOTE: iLIfe '05 might get some added functionality but you will have to be in the application you want to use (i.e. in iDVD when burning video discs. Save iMovie project as QuickTime file, open iTunes and add to library.)
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The clickwheel and interface uses touch to work, then when playing video takes up the entire screen.
Could work, but I bet they wouldn't do anything so daring.
Originally posted by Dogcow
Why are we going to have to pay to download advertising? Music videos are used to promote the song and artist. Its essentially an ad, not a product. I'll just keep watching MTV/VH1 at 3 AM. (Plus I can already watch music videos free on comcast on-demand).
Look down at the Sean John shirt you are wearing and ask that again.
Anyway, who couldn't see this coming? Of course this is the direction they are heading. Hmmm, suddenly iTunes becomes a quicktime player and Photo iPods come out. Music videos start appearing in iTunes music store. Hmmmm, do you think that maybe a phone could be in the mix? Perhaps Steve like most of us realized he had too many gadgets with him. An iPod, a phone, PDA, car stereo head unit, etc... DUH! Of course an iPod capable of videos will be out soon. It is the natural evolution of Apple making the legion of think different creative types into good little lemmings. As Dogcow notes, music videos are used to promote songs and we will soon be buying them like the good little consumers we are. But Apple has made it cool to be one. And they are about to merge all of our techno needs into one device that can play our music anywhere (home, bus, car), phone home, keep our calendars, addressbook, and be an extension of our TV. This way we never have to be with ourselves. Always stimulated, wherever we go.
Ah well, who knows... Maybe we'll start to see video remixes?
Originally posted by Dogcow
Why are we going to have to pay to download advertising?
You might not, but it's virtually guaranteed that someone would. I know dozens of people who work in the ad industry who gladly pay $100 a year or more to download copies of the latest TV commercials.
It's simply a matter of supply and demand. It's worth $1.99 because that's what the market is willing to bear. Apple's early entries in the iTunes Music Store were a test to see if people would bite, and clearly the test showed a significant amount of demand at that price point.
I'm not saying this will be huge, just that enough people must have shown their willingness to buy for it to be worthwhile for the suppliers to offer videos for sale. Personally, it'd have to be a damn good video for me to pay for the download; I'm rarely interested in viewing one more than once. The same for most TV programs and movies, both of which I view a lot more of than music videos.
I'd prefer a more podcast-like subscription service for video, which allows me to download selected programs automatically as new episodes appear, but doesn't require me to have the massive amount of storage to save them for all eternity. Bandwidth aside, video takes serious disk space. I don't care to own my movies and TV shows the way I like to own my music. I think most people are perfectly happy with a rental model (e.g. Cable TV, Blockbuster, Netflix) when it comes to video.
Originally posted by baranovich
Okay, so using a video iPod for music videos seems really stupid. I mean who the hell cares? How about a video iPod that can play actual movies? Talk about a huge market!
Come on,
Dear Apple,
Your getting too cocky, so cock it down a notch. Videos should be free, as a suppliment to the iTunes store, not a cash source.
Cocks.
Thanx
666
Chris Holland writes "Beyond the WSJ Story, Om Malik gives us inside information obtained by Business 2.0 Magazine about the Apple Video iPod. 'Steve Jobs has spoken with Disney President and soon-to-be CEO Bob Iger about ways to license various Disney content for a video iPod, according to an internal Disney email I have obtained. That could include anything from clips from ESPN and ABC News to short cartoons.' "
Does anyone here have the skill to hack hardware that doesn't exist yet?
Watching "Kill Bill" turned out the same way. One chapter here and there which can really kill (heh, sorry) the momentum of a story (perhaps Tarantino's style favors that style, but not others).
On the other hand, "The Daily Show", "Robot Chicken" and other short items would be perfect.
But why not also have what was mentioned earlier: Music video playlists for your parties. Portable home movies of the kids when you go over to your mom and dad's house. Portable video presentations for business people who are constantly traveling.
There are lots of possibilities for a video iPod. Will they override the music? No, but it'd be nice to have the features there.
Just like the ipod photo and your digital pictures, the iPod video could be used to store and playback your home movies. Even iMovie could have an export setting for the iPod video. Apple could market how using iMovie can help you create great looking home movies that you can show off anywhere with your iPod video.
I see this benefit being marketed more heavily for the iPod video than playing movies and TV shows.
Originally posted by MPMoriarty
Many of you are forgetting one critical piece that the iPod video could serve...home movies.
Just like the ipod photo and your digital pictures, the iPod video could be used to store and playback your home movies. Even iMovie could have an export setting for the iPod video. Apple could market how using iMovie can help you create great looking home movies that you can show off anywhere with your iPod video.
I see this benefit being marketed more heavily for the iPod video than playing movies and TV shows.
Oh god, it's bad enough when my boss pulls out the wallet-sized accordion of his kids' photos. Now I'm going to have to squint at wallet-sized videos, too? How many times can you watch a kid feeding a llama on a 2" screen?
Originally posted by Reid
Oh god, it's bad enough when my boss pulls out the wallet-sized accordion of his kids' photos. Now I'm going to have to squint at wallet-sized videos, too? How many times can you watch a kid feeding a llama on a 2" screen?
Here you go:
1) Secure another job.
2) Ask your boss to see that video again of his kid feeding a llama.
3) Kick his butt and take his vPod.
4) Start working at new job.
Originally posted by CosmoNut
I also think a video iPod's on the way, but you all need to think "outside the screen" as well. Yes, the video iPod will probably be able to show content on its screen. Wouldn't many of you like to watch a video podcast of ESPN SportsCenter on your iPod on the train to work each morning? How about a playlist of your favorite music videos?
But why not also have what was mentioned earlier: Music video playlists for your parties. Portable home movies of the kids when you go over to your mom and dad's house. Portable video presentations for business people who are constantly traveling.
There are lots of possibilities for a video iPod. Will they override the music? No, but it'd be nice to have the features there.
I have been thinking outside the box and some of my thoughts are:
1 - iTunes 5.0 will allow people to transfer just the audio portion of music videos to the iPod and the audio can be burned to a CD like music can now.
2 - Video can be transfered directly to an iPod Video from a camcorder like photos from a camera can.
3 - iLife integration ('06 "required")
a - iMovie projects (music recitals, "Star Search" competitions, etc.) can be exported to iTunes.
b - Videos/Video playlists can be burned to disk using iDVD templates from within iTunes.
c - GarageBand will allow us to import the audio portion of iMovie clips so audio tracks can be deleted, added, and enhanced.
NOTE: iLIfe '05 might get some added functionality but you will have to be in the application you want to use (i.e. in iDVD when burning video discs. Save iMovie project as QuickTime file, open iTunes and add to library.)