This is the last word that I would say about this.
He was banned forever for past records, he reappear on a different account, he pmed Groverat and I finded that his PM was not the one I expected (PM are private so it won't appear here).
So I decided with our team to ban him. This is my decision, and I take the responsability of this one.
Case closed.
If someone as something to say : pm me. Otherwise I will delete any furthers comments about this.
This article from BBC news has some interesting information about the volume of water in New Orleans:
Quote:
Aerial photographs are...helping (LSU scientists) to establish the volume of floodwater.
These images suggest the quantity of floodwater in downtown New Orleans on 2 September was 95 billion litres (21bn gallons, 25bn US gallons), Hassan Mashriqui of the LSU Hurricane Center told the BBC News website.
That represents about 2% of the volume of (Lake Ponchartrain).
hey folks, sorry about the radio silence. we've been back home all week, trying to do what we can, but the communications out of even st tammany parish north of the lake are laughable.
anyway, in response to the original post, believe it or not, but "move the city" is ACTUALLY the fall back plan for the city of new orleans. it has been all along. whether that SHOULD be "plan b" is up for debate, but i can tell you this: this tragedy happened due to bi-partisan idiocy for the last, i dunno 100 years? more? louisiana politics and city planners and developers are the most corrupt you will ever see. they're mafia-esque in some respects, but i have always gotten the impression that the mafia, while always "family" based, was still a business mentality. in louisiana, family connections and last names ruled the roost. got poor people? house 'em in the ninth ward. when you're dirt poor and desperate, you'll ake it, too, and trust that the city wouldn't put you in harm's way. and maybe the city wouldn't. but the city doesn't mind putting you NEAR harm's way, and neither does the parish, or the state, or society in general when the ninth ward and the derelict houses in new orleans are completely shielded from the old mansions and plantation houses of st. charles avenue. hell, it is well known that the REASON the houses on st. charles are so nice, and those houses 1-2 blocks north and south of it are so poor is that they are still based on the slave quarters built there ages ago. combine all of that negligence TOGETHER, along with the federal government being stingy with funds to improve (NOT just maintain, but IMPROVE) the levee system, because, yes, the army corps of engineers flittered away so much money on terrible projects...
well, in the end, politics and corruption stewed over generations caused this. new orleans wil be rebuilt. but i hope it's rebuilt, not only better in terms of structure, but also in terms of those in charge.
hey folks, sorry about the radio silence. we've been back home all week, trying to do what we can, but the communications out of even st tammany parish north of the lake are laughable.
anyway, in response to the original post, believe it or not, but "move the city" is ACTUALLY the fall back plan for the city of new orleans. it has been all along. whether that SHOULD be "plan b" is up for debate, but i can tell you this: this tragedy happened due to bi-partisan idiocy for the last, i dunno 100 years? more? louisiana politics and city planners and developers are the most corrupt you will ever see. they're mafia-esque in some respects, but i have always gotten the impression that the mafia, while always "family" based, was still a business mentality. in louisiana, family connections and last names ruled the roost. got poor people? house 'em in the ninth ward. when you're dirt poor and desperate, you'll ake it, too, and trust that the city wouldn't put you in harm's way. and maybe the city wouldn't. but the city doesn't mind putting you NEAR harm's way, and neither does the parish, or the state, or society in general when the ninth ward and the derelict houses in new orleans are completely shielded from the old mansions and plantation houses of st. charles avenue. hell, it is well known that the REASON the houses on st. charles are so nice, and those houses 1-2 blocks north and south of it are so poor is that they are still based on the slave quarters built there ages ago. combine all of that negligence TOGETHER, along with the federal government being stingy with funds to improve (NOT just maintain, but IMPROVE) the levee system, because, yes, the army corps of engineers flittered away so much money on terrible projects...
well, in the end, politics and corruption stewed over generations caused this. new orleans wil be rebuilt. but i hope it's rebuilt, not only better in terms of structure, but also in terms of those in charge.
This is the best post I've seen in any of the many threads pertaining to the hurricane.
Are your tinfoil hats firmly in place? Let's embark on a flight of the sheerest, impossible fantasy! (Note; if you don't like fantasy, or if fantasy makes you angry, then this might be a good time to eject from this post.)
The Japanese might have a solution to New2Orleans (New, New Orleans):
If Japan can build a floating airport, surely we can build a floating city.
Once the water is pumped out of N1O, construction could begin and it would be simpler than what the Japanese are proposing (building the unit at sea). Once the foundation is built, the city could be resurrected above (and within-there would be a lot of space - perfect for pre-positioning emergency supplies). Self contained power plants (either conventional or nuclear). Let either Lake Pontchatrain or the Gulf into the Bowl permanently. Commute by boat, elevated monorails, etc.
The Venice of North America.
Of course, some testing would have to take place first. And terrorists might take an interest.
Hope you enjoyed the flight; come back to earth now.
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This is the last word that I would say about this.
He was banned forever for past records, he reappear on a different account, he pmed Groverat and I finded that his PM was not the one I expected (PM are private so it won't appear here).
So I decided with our team to ban him. This is my decision, and I take the responsability of this one.
Case closed.
If someone as something to say : pm me. Otherwise I will delete any furthers comments about this.
Aerial photographs are...helping (LSU scientists) to establish the volume of floodwater.
These images suggest the quantity of floodwater in downtown New Orleans on 2 September was 95 billion litres (21bn gallons, 25bn US gallons), Hassan Mashriqui of the LSU Hurricane Center told the BBC News website.
That represents about 2% of the volume of (Lake Ponchartrain).
Originally posted by midwinter
Ponchartrain is ~40 miles wide and ~25 miles tall.
Tall? I think you've got the wrong word there.
anyway, in response to the original post, believe it or not, but "move the city" is ACTUALLY the fall back plan for the city of new orleans. it has been all along. whether that SHOULD be "plan b" is up for debate, but i can tell you this: this tragedy happened due to bi-partisan idiocy for the last, i dunno 100 years? more? louisiana politics and city planners and developers are the most corrupt you will ever see. they're mafia-esque in some respects, but i have always gotten the impression that the mafia, while always "family" based, was still a business mentality. in louisiana, family connections and last names ruled the roost. got poor people? house 'em in the ninth ward. when you're dirt poor and desperate, you'll ake it, too, and trust that the city wouldn't put you in harm's way. and maybe the city wouldn't. but the city doesn't mind putting you NEAR harm's way, and neither does the parish, or the state, or society in general when the ninth ward and the derelict houses in new orleans are completely shielded from the old mansions and plantation houses of st. charles avenue. hell, it is well known that the REASON the houses on st. charles are so nice, and those houses 1-2 blocks north and south of it are so poor is that they are still based on the slave quarters built there ages ago. combine all of that negligence TOGETHER, along with the federal government being stingy with funds to improve (NOT just maintain, but IMPROVE) the levee system, because, yes, the army corps of engineers flittered away so much money on terrible projects...
well, in the end, politics and corruption stewed over generations caused this. new orleans wil be rebuilt. but i hope it's rebuilt, not only better in terms of structure, but also in terms of those in charge.
Originally posted by Flounder
Tall? I think you've got the wrong word there.
Sorry. Long. Not tall. Long.
And Rok: please keep us posted. The news we're getting of the forced evacuations of the city are pretty bizarre.
Originally posted by rok
hey folks, sorry about the radio silence. we've been back home all week, trying to do what we can, but the communications out of even st tammany parish north of the lake are laughable.
anyway, in response to the original post, believe it or not, but "move the city" is ACTUALLY the fall back plan for the city of new orleans. it has been all along. whether that SHOULD be "plan b" is up for debate, but i can tell you this: this tragedy happened due to bi-partisan idiocy for the last, i dunno 100 years? more? louisiana politics and city planners and developers are the most corrupt you will ever see. they're mafia-esque in some respects, but i have always gotten the impression that the mafia, while always "family" based, was still a business mentality. in louisiana, family connections and last names ruled the roost. got poor people? house 'em in the ninth ward. when you're dirt poor and desperate, you'll ake it, too, and trust that the city wouldn't put you in harm's way. and maybe the city wouldn't. but the city doesn't mind putting you NEAR harm's way, and neither does the parish, or the state, or society in general when the ninth ward and the derelict houses in new orleans are completely shielded from the old mansions and plantation houses of st. charles avenue. hell, it is well known that the REASON the houses on st. charles are so nice, and those houses 1-2 blocks north and south of it are so poor is that they are still based on the slave quarters built there ages ago. combine all of that negligence TOGETHER, along with the federal government being stingy with funds to improve (NOT just maintain, but IMPROVE) the levee system, because, yes, the army corps of engineers flittered away so much money on terrible projects...
well, in the end, politics and corruption stewed over generations caused this. new orleans wil be rebuilt. but i hope it's rebuilt, not only better in terms of structure, but also in terms of those in charge.
This is the best post I've seen in any of the many threads pertaining to the hurricane.
The Japanese might have a solution to New2Orleans (New, New Orleans):
See the 1000 meter long model
If Japan can build a floating airport, surely we can build a floating city.
Once the water is pumped out of N1O, construction could begin and it would be simpler than what the Japanese are proposing (building the unit at sea). Once the foundation is built, the city could be resurrected above (and within-there would be a lot of space - perfect for pre-positioning emergency supplies). Self contained power plants (either conventional or nuclear). Let either Lake Pontchatrain or the Gulf into the Bowl permanently. Commute by boat, elevated monorails, etc.
The Venice of North America.
Of course, some testing would have to take place first. And terrorists might take an interest.
Hope you enjoyed the flight; come back to earth now.
Have a weekend.
V/R,
Aries 1B