A closer look at Apple's new iMac Core Duo

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  • Reply 41 of 66
    Quote:

    Originally posted by aegisdesign

    Definitely if you're running multiple screens. 128MB is enough but 256MB is better. Macs use their graphics cards for a lot of the visual processing and effects you see.



    Yowch!. I ordered an intel iMac last evening from Apple, and asked about this, and the sales fellow said the 128MB would work fine(in an office), with two displays, if I wanted that.



    I think I will call in the morning and see about changing the order, as it is 75$ difference.
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  • Reply 42 of 66
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    Originally posted by NordicMan

    Yowch!. I ordered an intel iMac last evening from Apple, and asked about this, and the sales fellow said the 128MB would work fine(in an office), with two displays, if I wanted that.



    It will.



    But, Quartz Extreme buffers as much as it can in video RAM so that it doesn't have to hit the main ram of the computer. If you want expose and dashboard to be quick, run lots of windows, lots of fonts, it's all stored in video RAM. Now double the number of screens or run larger screens - the more RAM the better.



    Also, when Apple finally gets around to enabling Quartz2D Extreme which now seems likely they'll only do that in 10.5, they farm off even more of the graphics processing to the graphics card. More RAM helps there.



    I think to future proof yourself, 256MB is a good idea.
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  • Reply 43 of 66
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by aegisdesign

    Also, when Apple finally gets around to enabling Quartz2D Extreme which now seems likely they'll only do that in 10.5, they farm off even more of the graphics processing to the graphics card. More RAM helps there.



    I think this will only happen if they remove QuickDraw support from 10.5. I hope they do, but it will mean that any app that uses QuickDraw will have to be updated to work in 10.5.



    You are right - now we have things like CoreImage and CoreVideo, non - gamers have a reason to get as powerful a graphics card as they can.
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  • Reply 44 of 66
    Thanks, gentlemen. I should know that. First thought was for an office. But if I end up using some programmes like Sketchup, or Dr. Frame 3D, or Drsoftwares other programmes, it would be best for me to get the better graphics cards.
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  • Reply 45 of 66
    Thanks.
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  • Reply 46 of 66
    The difference is £50 in the UK between 128 and 256. I'm sure some PC gamer fanboy will now rip in to me for suggesting paying that much extra for a 256MB X1600 (Dude it's not even the XT Ultra GT FX SE version! etc) but hey life's too short to worry about £50 and gamer dudes.
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  • Reply 47 of 66
    sammicksammick Posts: 416member
    I agree, even if you're not a gamer--the more you get now the longer you'll be happy with your computer
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  • Reply 48 of 66
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by aegisdesign

    The difference is £50 in the UK between 128 and 256. I'm sure some PC gamer fanboy will now rip in to me for suggesting paying that much extra for a 256MB X1600 (Dude it's not even the XT Ultra GT FX SE version! etc) but hey life's too short to worry about £50 and gamer dudes.





    dude, anyway it's all about the nvidia 7800gtx 512mb. in SLI. word.
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  • Reply 49 of 66
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by sunilraman

    dude, anyway it's all about the nvidia 7800gtx 512mb. in SLI. word.





    SLI!
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  • Reply 50 of 66
    you're all forgetting about the 7900GTX 512MB. In SLI. Word.
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  • Reply 51 of 66
    Here is a link I found with comparative pics of the insides of various iMacs, including the intel iMacs. I hope I get it in here right.



    I think the picture is going to be absolutely moosey, and sorry about that, you may criticise my efforts.

    http://www.danamania.com/temp/g5vsintel.jpg
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  • Reply 52 of 66
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NordicMan

    Here is a link I found with comparative pics of the insides of various iMacs, including the intel iMacs. I hope I get it in here right.



    I think the picture is going to be absolutely moosey, and sorry about that, you may criticise my efforts.





    Better just post the link only. The image is too big.
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  • Reply 53 of 66
    Quote:

    Originally posted by PB

    Better just post the link only. The image is too big.



    Yes, I am sorry about that. Now I went and distended the whole thread size.
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  • Reply 54 of 66
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    wha, you think i be joking about 7800GTX 512mb x 2 in SLI? word up yo:







    http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/...dia/page5.html



    1GB of Video Memory,

    over 13,000 in 3dMark05 (that's BLOODY MASSIVE in gamer land)







    just mixing things up here... while some of us get off

    on beautifully bevelled, textured, and antialiased interfaces,

    there are others that dream in frames-per-second.

    yes, that's the x1600 that's in the "latest and greatest macs"

    somewhere down the bottom of that chart
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  • Reply 55 of 66
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    Originally posted by theapplegenius

    you're all forgetting about the 7900GTX 512MB. In SLI. Word.




    heh. nVidia moving to 90nm is the r0xx0rs.

    will it blow past 20,000 in 3DMark05?
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  • Reply 56 of 66
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NordicMan

    Yes, I am sorry about that. Now I went and distended the whole thread size.



    so can you fix it then ??
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  • Reply 57 of 66
    http://images.tomshardware.com/2005/...00-gtx-512.jpg



    Wow, that's mental!



    You've got to really like your games to blow that kind of money on a gaming rig and put up with all that heat and noise.
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  • Reply 58 of 66
    shanmugamshanmugam Posts: 1,200member
    Quote:

    just mixing things up here... while some of us get off

    on beautifully bevelled, textured, and antialiased interfaces,

    there are others that dream in frames-per-second.

    yes, that's the x1600 that's in the "latest and greatest macs"

    somewhere down the bottom of that chart [/B]



    probably we will see that in PowerMacs ooops Mac Pro



    you do not like hv 30 mins of Battery life rite? Do not you?
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  • Reply 59 of 66
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    heh. me just having some fun. yeah aegisdesign, heat

    and noise and powerconsumption is just all insane on

    those kinds of rigs. for the hardcore, most certainly...



    shanmugan, the x1600 in the new intel macs and 7800gt

    as an option on the powermac g5, it's all good. i got a pc

    as well (6600gt 128mb - 4,100 3dmark05 - overclocked 10%)

    so i've more or less stopped complaining about the gpu in

    macs (i am writing this on an iBook g4 933mhz, with a

    little ati radeon 9200 32mb vram)
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  • Reply 60 of 66
    shanmugamshanmugam Posts: 1,200member
    Cool, sunilramnan... sold my 12" PB Rev A (with VGA out) few months back... still contemplating whether to get a iMac or MacBook Pro or wait for while, this wait kills...



    iMac seems just nice for s$... thinking whether i can get most out by using my current 20 ACD and mac mini or just get a imac or macbook pro (now with dual link DVI)... too many choice, too much confusion
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